Majority of Americans say heartbeat abortion bans are not too restrictive

throughfireytrial said:

That is one way of preventing a murder is another way of looking at it...you do not seem to see that or understand it.

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Murder is a legal term meaning the unlawful taking of a human life. Abortion is not illegal thus not murder.

How do we undo 50 years of self entitlement?

timothyu said:

How do we undo 50 years of self entitlement?

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It is not a question of self-entitlement; it is a question about who controls a woman's body, her or the foetus? I opt for the woman.

kiwimac said:

It is not a question of self-entitlement; it is a question about who controls a woman's body, her or the foetus? I opt for the woman.

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Control? I thought we were loaners from God.

throughfireytrial said:

That is one way of preventing a murder is another way of looking at it...you do not seem to see that or understand it.

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I'm not pro abortion. Just the opposite. The point was to question the pro-choice position that they seem just as capable of forcing women at later stages of pregnancy to carry babies to birth.

timothyu said:

Control? I thought we were loaners from God.

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God gives us the ability to make decisions for ourselves; Jesus makes it clear, IMO, that we must make decisions based on the best information we can get which implies that we are indeed i control of our lives.

redleghunter said:

Majority of Americans say heartbeat abortion bans are not too restrictive

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That doesn't surprise me.

There was a Cigarette ad back in the 60's, I believe it was for Virginia Slims, that stated "You've come a long way baby" like it was a Good thing that women can smoke freely.

Well, we've come a long way as well in our thinking on Abortion. Not that it's a good thing at all. Of course it will be considered OK, or even a good thing to those that want it. It seem just about any terrible outlook can be achieved over time if people aren't standing on the rock. Slowly introduce it, keep pushing it, even if the reasons for making it ok are nonsensical/pure selfishness, in 6O/70 yrs, look what happens.

While those on the rock remain unchanged to what's right, but clearly we aren't the majority anymore, the whole point being, there simply aren't enough true Christians left to put a stop to certain things, and it's only going to get worse.

What a lovely Sunday morning thought, now have a happy day.

TuxAme said:

Heartbeat bills are a start- here's to hoping that life becomes respected at every stage of development.

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Like healthcare for everyone?

Agreed.

No Username Found said:

Nobody here is talking about rape victims. Only those women who find themselves pregnant as a result of consensual sex.

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Agree, and we are almost never, if ever, talking about the first 3 of the reasons below, but people constantly, and deceptively use rare exceptions as the norm in this area when they are far far from it. From Eriks link:

Why do abortions occur

Percentage Reason
<0.5% Victim of rape
3% Fetal health problems
4% Physical health problems
4% Would interfere with education or career
7% Not mature enough to raise a child
8% Don't want to be a single mother
19% Done having children
23% Can't afford a baby
25% Not ready for a child
6% Other

U.S. Abortion Statistics

ChristianForCats said:

It is not a rape victim's fault if she gets pregnant. Rape is being forced to have sex after she tells him no. Also, too many states (including Alabama) do not have strict sex education laws. It is not the girl's fault if she has no idea contraceptives are necessary at her age.

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Would you be ok with a bill that states that abortions were illegal with the exception of mother's health or rape (given there is a police report with a rape kit which would give the DNA of the rapist). Many of the child sex trafficking people get away with it because the people at the abortion clinics are not asking any questions when these young girls are coming in for abortions.

kiwimac said:

Murder is a legal term meaning the unlawful taking of a human life. Abortion is not illegal thus not murder.

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And in countries where abortion is illegal?

Allowing the brutal slaughter of an innocent child at ANY age is obviously nowhere near "restrictive" enough!

Heartbeat... as I look at.. we have our say over our self...that ONE heartbeat.. the woman is the ONLY ONE that has the right to kill another heartbeat. No man can.. So if there is another heartbeat... you have no say over that life. That life is not yours. It took a MAN say way some how for that life in a woman to start.. and he has no say? I saw that woman say "I had abortion and it was a great experience"...your stopping a heart...

And rape or some other awful thing.. really? One should be given the right to kill over that? its not my creation... you wont be answering to man but a GOD. We all will to some degree.

In the end.. if we keep trying to fight man over this.. its a loss cause. Man is not where the battle is.. its not man we are fighting.. we MUST fight this in prayer

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kiwimac said:

Murder is a legal term meaning the unlawful taking of a human life. Abortion is not illegal thus not murder.

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kiwimac said:

It is not a question of self-entitlement; it is a question about who controls a woman's body, her or the foetus? I opt for the woman.

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It is not a question of who controls the woman's body, that woman or her fetus. In my view it is always the woman's body and she is compelled to love and care for her unborn baby by the love of God.

throughfireytrial said:

It is not a question of who controls the woman's body, that woman or her fetus. In my view it is always the woman's body and she is compelled to love and care for her unborn baby by the love of God.

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The Bible never mentions abortion.

kiwimac said:

The Bible never mentions abortion.

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It does mention murder, shedding innocent blood, and life beginning before birth.

Now let's go back to the moality (or IMO immorality) of so-called heartbeat laws. I don't want this thread to be closed again.

PaulCyp1 said:

Allowing the brutal slaughter of an innocent child at ANY age is obviously nowhere near "restrictive" enough!

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what's the real difference between "terminating" a viable human life within the womb versus without ?

Is this just a case of "out of sight, out of mind" ??

throughfireytrial said:

It is not a question of who controls the woman's body, that woman or her fetus. In my view it is always the woman's body and she is compelled to love and care for her unborn baby by the love of God.

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women control their own bodies... from conception ?

human rights begin then & there ?? "Viable" human life has human rights ???