Texas bill would criminalize women who have abortions -- possible death penalty?

It's about time.

I think this is an extremist reaction that gives the left a taste of their own medicine.

TLK Valentine said:

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I think in a post Roe world one state will actually try to go thought with this and I cannot wait to see them hoist the entire state by its own petard trying to try execute woman or Dr,

So much for the party of being pro-life, eh?

(For the record, I am pro-life myself ... within reason. I encourage adoption over abortion, I just don't believe in punishing the women who carry the burden of labor with more death - I am not in their shoes, so I cannot pretend to fully understand how hard it is to carry a child.)

friend of said:

I think this is an extremist reaction that gives the left a taste of their own medicine.

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So ... let's go executing a few women who made bad decisions just to get back at our liberal opponents? Yeah, that's mature.

TLK Valentine said:

Texas bill would allow death penalty for women who get abortions



The stupidity doesn't just spread... it grows exponentially.

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The bill did not have the support of Texas For Life. It's already been set aside to never go anywhere again. So no need for abortion supporters to rail on an already passe bill.

I think killing because you don't like killing is a tad hypocritical.

TLK Valentine said:

Texas bill would allow death penalty for women who get abortions



The stupidity doesn't just spread... it grows exponentially.

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Nothing says "pro life" like the death penalty.

RayJeena said:

Nothing says "pro life" like the death penalty.

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Yes, I never understood how those two ideas, anti-abortion and pro-capital punishment, have gone hand-in-hand for some people.

While this bill won't happen, something like it will have to. In Europe almost all abortions are done medically, i.e. with pills. It's going to be hard to stop abortions in that situation without prosecuting women.

hedrick said:

While this bill won't happen, something like it will have to. In Europe almost all abortions are done medically, i.e. with pills. It's going to be hard to stop abortions in that situation without prosecuting women.

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It's going to be hard, period. How would you prove in court that a woman had been pregnant, that the pregnancy had been terminated and that the termination was intentional?

Speedwell said:

It's going to be hard, period. How would you prove in court that a woman had been pregnant, that the pregnancy had been terminated and that the termination was intentional?

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Women can bid farewell to HIPPA and what remains of their forth amendment rights, for a start.

Desk trauma said:

Women can bid farewell to HIPPA and what remains of their forth amendment rights, for a start.

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It looks like a mare's nest to me. Back before Roe v. Wade abortionists were often convicted by badgering a confession out of women who had to seek legit medical care after a botched job. With relatively safe use-at-home chemical abortifactants I don't see how a case could be made.

Speedwell said:

It looks like a mare's nest to me. Back before Roe v. Wade abortionists were often convicted by badgering a confession out of women who had to seek legit medical care after a botched job. With relatively safe use-at-home chemical abortifactants I don't see how a case could be made.

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Mandatory pregnancy tests and monitoring after a positive result, miscarriage triggering homicide investigations, possible drug tests for traces of know antiabortionists, it gets very dystopian very fast.

...in other news, a Texas legislator introduced a bill to castrate men who fail to support women whom they impregnate.

[never will happen]

Speedwell said:

It looks like a mare's nest to me. Back before Roe v. Wade abortionists were often convicted by badgering a confession out of women who had to seek legit medical care after a botched job. With relatively safe use-at-home chemical abortifactants I don't see how a case could be made.

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No, there's not going to be anything like a systematic review of all miscarriages. It certainly won't be practical, or politically acceptable, to prosecute all mothers who abort.

The problem with a bad law is that it leaves a lot to the discretion of prosecutors. Most will be sensible. But there are always some who think being tough on abortion will play well with voters. And someone in the hospital will be offended and report cases. They'll pick unsympathetic cases: mothers who haven't behaved well, probably minorities or immigrants. Maybe they carelessly admitted what they did. They may not even be convicted. But it will still ruin their lives, and let the prosecutors claim to be tough on crime. "Think of the children" has a habit of leading to bad laws and prosecutions. Enough to get a political benefit but not enough, and not with sympathetic victims, to avoid an outcry.

That sounds like something Texas would do. I'm surprised guns aren't somehow involved in the solution.

TLK Valentine said:

Texas bill would allow death penalty for women who get abortions



The stupidity doesn't just spread... it grows exponentially.

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It is the only logical way to handle the abortion issue if one really believes it is murder. Let's see how many people actually do.