Trump's NeoCon: John Bolton

Nithavela · May 17, 2019

iluvatar5150 said:
Can we call it Operation Thanos2?

You can call it however you want, there won't be anyone left to remember its name.

cow451 · May 17, 2019

Pommer said:
You’re getting a wing of your own?

With a side of fries.

A belligerent America might be seen as “the problem” to a larger ratio of our adversaries than, “naw, they’re okay” amongst our allies?

Ask the Free Syrian forces and the South Vietnamese...... with friends like America....

wing2000 · May 17, 2019

cow451 said:
Ask the Free Syrian forces and the South Vietnamese...... with friends like America....

...and the Iraqi interpreters denied visas...

St. Helens · May 17, 2019

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cow451 · May 17, 2019

wing2000 said:
...and the Iraqi interpreters denied visas...

They’re losers by the President’s standards.

wing2000 · May 21, 2019

Iraqi war veteran and House Intelligence Committee Member Ruben Gallego calls out the warmongers...

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Again Lindsey and I get the same intel. That is not what is being said. This is total information bias to draw the conclusion he wants for himself and the media.

Lindsey Graham

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Just received a briefing from National Security Advisor Bolton about escalating tensions with Iran.

It is clear that over the last several weeks Iran has attacked pipelines and ships of other nations and created threat streams against American interests in Iraq.
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chuckpeterson · May 21, 2019

I believe trump believes the only sure way to stay in office in 2020 is for the USA to be at war since no President has ever lost an election during war time.

Believe me, if Trump believes he can stay in office if we are at war, he will get us in a war; does Iran come to mind?

chuckpeterson · May 21, 2019

StevenBelievin said:
We should probably just Nuke Iran and North Korea, then ask "who else want's some?"

Only if we begin with Israel first.
Once the dust settles we can consider the others

StevenBelievin · May 22, 2019

chuckpeterson said:
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Only if we begin with Israel first.
Once the dust settles we can consider the others

But Israel is our friends. We need to protect them from the evil Muslims..

SoldierOfTheKing · May 28, 2019

Trump Undercuts Bolton on North Korea and Iran :oldthumbsup:

"The disparity was on stark display during Mr. Trump’s four-day visit to Japan that ended Tuesday after he contradicted Mr. Bolton on high-stakes confrontations with both Iran and North Korea. The president declared that, unlike his national security adviser, he was not seeking regime change in Iran and he asserted that, contrary to what Mr. Bolton had said, recent North Korean missile tests did not violate United Nations resolutions."

"In private, Mr. Trump has made fun of his adviser’s militant reputation, suggesting that he was the one restraining Mr. Bolton rather than the other way around. “If it was up to John, we’d be in four wars now,” one senior official has recalled the president saying."

wing2000 · May 29, 2019

SoldierOfTheKing said:
Trump Undercuts Bolton on North Korea and Iran

"The disparity was on stark display during Mr. Trump’s four-day visit to Japan that ended Tuesday after he contradicted Mr. Bolton on high-stakes confrontations with both Iran and North Korea. The president declared that, unlike his national security adviser, he was not seeking regime change in Iran and he asserted that, contrary to what Mr. Bolton had said, recent North Korean missile tests did not violate United Nations resolutions."

"In private, Mr. Trump has made fun of his adviser’s militant reputation, suggesting that he was the one restraining Mr. Bolton rather than the other way around. “If it was up to John, we’d be in four wars now,” one senior official has recalled the president saying."

...which begs the question, why hasn't Bolten been fired?

chuckpeterson · Jun 4, 2019

There is a crime already on the books that covers a situation where an American colludes with a foreign country; i.e. an American enemy, to subvert American interests for self-serving reasons.

That crime is called Treason!!

I was wrong on the above, we can't get him for treason but we can get him on this---

The Emoluments Clause Could Be a Tipping Point in Trump’s Downfall
STEPHEN ROHDE

MAY 13, 2019
The obstruction of justice documented in Mueller’s report has gotten more attention, but Trump’s profiting from his office is an open-and-shut impeachment count.

On April 30, a federal district judge rejected Trump’s motion to throw out the lawsuit filed by approximately 201 members of the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives alleging that Trump has flagrantly violated the Foreign Emoluments Clause. The case was largely overlooked as national attention has focused on Trump’s obstruction of justice and his efforts to block further congressional scrutiny of his abuses of power.

U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan, in a comprehensive 48-page opinion, ruled that the narrow definition of “emoluments” advanced by Trump’s lawyers “disregards the ordinary meaning of the term as set forth in the vast majority of Founding-era dictionaries; is inconsistent with the text, structure, historical interpretation, adoption, and purpose of the Clause; and is contrary to Executive Branch practice over the course of many years.”

The Emoluments Clause Could Be a Tipping Point in Trump’s Downfall

Dump Trump

Pommer · Jun 5, 2019

chuckpeterson said:
There is a crime already on the books that covers a situation where an American colludes with a foreign country; i.e. an American enemy, to subvert American interests for self-serving reasons.

That crime is called Treason!!

I was wrong on the above, we can't get him for treason but we can get him on this---

The Emoluments Clause Could Be a Tipping Point in Trump’s Downfall
STEPHEN ROHDE

MAY 13, 2019
The obstruction of justice documented in Mueller’s report has gotten more attention, but Trump’s profiting from his office is an open-and-shut impeachment count.

On April 30, a federal district judge rejected Trump’s motion to throw out the lawsuit filed by approximately 201 members of the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives alleging that Trump has flagrantly violated the Foreign Emoluments Clause. The case was largely overlooked as national attention has focused on Trump’s obstruction of justice and his efforts to block further congressional scrutiny of his abuses of power.

U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan, in a comprehensive 48-page opinion, ruled that the narrow definition of “emoluments” advanced by Trump’s lawyers “disregards the ordinary meaning of the term as set forth in the vast majority of Founding-era dictionaries; is inconsistent with the text, structure, historical interpretation, adoption, and purpose of the Clause; and is contrary to Executive Branch practice over the course of many years.”

The Emoluments Clause Could Be a Tipping Point in Trump’s Downfall

Dump Trump

Technically “treason” requires we be “at war” with the nation that one enters into a “relationship” with for the charge to stick.

Even then, a President has wide latitude to conduct diplomatic negotiations with any such “enemy” as part of their foreign policy agenda.

But yeah, Trump’s refusal to properly divest his holdings will come back to bite him on the tuchus!

wing2000 · Jul 2, 2019

...looks like Bolton is in the trump dog house. While the President's highly qualified diplomat - Ivanka Trump - was making history with her daddy in N. Korea, Bolten was sent to Mongolia.

[...I am actually relieved to see the Neocon losing influence in the Trump WH]

SoldierOfTheKing · Sep 10, 2019

wing2000 said:
...which begs the question, why hasn't Bolten been fired?

Better late than never.

GoldenBoy89 · Sep 10, 2019

SoldierOfTheKing said:
Better late than never.

It’s funny, the things that can bring us together.

98cwitr · Sep 10, 2019

The longer any president has been in office, the more authoritarian they have become. This is true of every president that served two terms based on policy evidence.

wing2000 · Sep 10, 2019

GoldenBoy89 said:
It’s funny, the things that can bring us together.

I think everyone expect the neocons are happy that Bolton is gone. He did his best to push us into another war. ....but now Trump is literally surrounded by yes men in the national security / defense realm. And he's desperate to chalk up a win, as demonstrated by his rush to strike a deal with the Taliban in Camp David days before 9/11.

Hold on to your seats...going to be a wild ride until Jan 2021

cow451 · Sep 10, 2019

98cwitr said:
The longer any president has been in office, the more authoritarian they have become. This is true of every president that served two terms based on policy evidence.

Trump was a Putin wannabe to start with.

Trump's NeoCon: John Bolton

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