Christian music about abortion?

WannaWitness said:

Hello, and welcome to CF!

First of all, I am nonpartisan and don't get into the political end of things very much as I find politics a sloppy mess on both ends of the spectrum, and everything in between. But this is something I have been thinking about a lot lately. It is a hot button issue for sure, but one that needs to be addressed, and to me, it's not a matter of politics, but a matter of what's right and what's wrong. I do not find this post offensive in any way, so you need not be concerned about that, at least with me. You posed a very good question, as music has been known to be very powerful to its listeners. Of course, the effect a particular song may have depends on whom it's presented, whether their ears, hearts, and minds are open to take in its message. Your songs you have posted have powerful messages, but the presentation is calm and quiet, and not preachy in any way. They are good songs, but sadly, not everyone will take heed. Some might, but it will be because the Holy Spirit is working through the music to convict their hearts. But we can always hope and pray as we present our thoughts (through music or otherwise), and we just never know who we'll reach.

I truly hope this helps.

That said, I'd like to present a few favorites of mine on this topic.

The first one was a family favorite I grew up listening to as a child in the '80s.

I heard this one quite a few years back on a Christian station when I had satellite TV services, and it really tugs at the heart.

This one is about an expectant couple who are given bad news from the doctor about their unborn baby. They are presented with the choice to abort (although it doesn't use the word), but they choose to give birth anyway, and very happy that they did.

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So many wonderful songs! Thank you. It strikes me that you are of a rare and precious depth of character, so if you don't mind my asking: do you have any thoughts on taking this message outside the church?

Apologetic_Warrior said:

Check these two out:

I believe God can and does use music as an instrument to effect changes. Understand it is not the music in itself, nor the artists in themselves, but these can be secondary agents to bring about the purposes of God. At the same time, I also believe the unbeliever needs to first believe the Gospel to effectually experience a drastic change of heart on the abortion issue.

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I agree that a person must be born from above to experience agape love, but still hoping we can tug a little on the heart strings of natural parental instincts cause not everybody is going to turn but God says that just because the father eats sour grapes doesn't mean that the childrens' teeth are set on edge. Here's to children living long enough to make their own decision. Still the question remains, how else do you get the word to them? Thanks Warrior, for your thoughtful insights.

Messerve said:

Opposite side of the country... But I'll let you know if for some reason I'm in the area. My old roomate lives out your way, so who knows?

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Well either way, I'm looking forward to meeting with you either in this life or in the age to come. In the meantime, don't be discouraged, I'm sure God will send the right saint for you to work with.

WannaWitness said:

You are welcome, and thanks for the nice words, as I have never thought of myself in quite that way before. Good question, and yes, I have some thoughts on this. It's not very easy to explain, but I will try. I believe this message should be taken outside the church. There is a time and place for it, and a right way to go about it, but the message should get out. I remember several years back, when I was a teenager (late '80s early '90s, somewhere in that neighborhood), my family and I attended and had a chance to minister at a prolife rally in the city I lived. We actually used the song Let Me Live, and played it nonstop at the event. A lot of people were in attendance, and it was in an area for passers-by to be able to hear. More recently, I've shared music on social media. I have shared Unseen Angels and more recently than that Sometimes Miracles Hide. I posted the latter in the midst of all the political drama regarding abortion coming through my feed as I feel it to be from a completely balanced perspective. The song illustrates where the couple is given the choice by the doctor, and they chose to stick it out until the end. It is a sweet song, presented in a very loving and nonjudgmental manner, and that's why I like that one in particular for sharing outside of the church setting. I discovered the fourth song, Let You Live, not too long back; it is from the point of view of a woman experiencing guilt and regret after having had an abortion in the first part of the song; the second part speaks of how the woman has received mercy and forgiveness from Jesus. This may be a good song to use for those who have had abortions and feel guilt and shame, but then later shows how God can forgive anyone who asks, despite their past.

And of course, we should mainly concentrate on presenting the gift of salvation by way of the blood of Jesus to nonbelievers, as without this message, there is no hope for anyone to change. And it is also important that, through all of this, we try to remain humble and realize that we as Christians are still imperfect, make mistakes, and struggle with sin while still in our fleshly bodies, but saved by grace and trying to improve ourselves daily in our own walks with Christ; then we, with the help of God, can show the world how they can have the same hope that we have. Some will listen, and some won't, but when all is said and done, the Lord has all the glory.

(See, I told you this would be hard to explain!)

Anyway, that's just my two cents.

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I'm surprised you don't know that your writing comes across with a quiet humility and elegant grace that's very sincere and calm. My calling doesn’t afford me the luxury of calm (evangelism). I do, however, have great joy and internal peace in performing His will.

We are called to shine a very bright light in an ever-darkening world. Most don’t react well to bright lights when they’re trying to sleep, but the Lord won’t react well to those who are sleeping at His return. This is a little off topic so I’ll invite you instead to listen to the very first song I ever wrote (back in the eighties) that is still a favorite of both believers and unbelievers alike:
https://aletheiapraise.wixsite.com/aletheia/revelation-and-the-bride
If you turn to Matthew chapter five you can follow along word for word seeing how He interprets repentance and righteousness.

Back on subject, like you, my daughter and I have also been thinking, talking and hearing a lot about abortion lately and I suspect from legislation battles and movie releases that it’s on a lot of people’s minds. I believe that now is a vital time to act because a darkness is coming "when no man can work” John 9:4.

WannaWitness said:

Very true, as this is what we as Christians should all desire. Thank you for all of your insight and music you have shared here. I will be sure to check out your link when I get a chance.

I also feel humbly honored that my writing comes off as sincere and calm to you. That's exactly what I strive for, not only with those I see in person but online as well. I just wish to be the best example I can be, and present my thoughts from a balanced and neutral point of view (and lining up with God's Word as best as I can understand it). It isn't easy, I'll admit, and sometimes I don't succeed as I have had some misinterpret my words and completely miss my point. Some have flat out disagreed (not that there is any problem with that, as long as its respectfully) and came off to me as condescending in their responses (seemingly implying that I'm either "holier than thou" or "not holy enough" just for having different convictions), forcing me to come back and give a defense. It is often hard to read tone in writing so I can sound sharp to some people occasionally, then find myself in an argument that I don't want to be involved in. From there, I simply apologize for my part in it, bow out, and move on to something else. You also don't know this, but I can have a boisterous sense of humor sometimes. I have my serious side, of course (like now as this is a serious issue), but I also have a silly side, and enjoy a good laugh almost daily. I mean, it doesn't take much to amuse me; sometimes the simplest everyday things can bring a smile to my face. Music and comedy/humor has helped me get through trials I've had throughout my life - and still does.

Anyway, I don't want to veer too far off topic, so here is where I will end.

The best to you, and God bless.

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Please don’t be discouraged when “men shall revile and persecute you”, that’s just part of the job description. People like that play an important part in our spiritual growth and if you keep the right frame of mind, trust me in this, you will grow by “leaps and bounds”, far more than you ever could without them: John 15:2.

Ever hear of “resistance training exercise”? It’s the resistance that builds strength not just “going through the motions”. Let the mockers have their way for now and “don’t give what is holy to the dogs, nor cast your pearls before the swine lest they trample them under their feet and turn and rend you” (this is a command of the Lord himself and not just a suggestion). So, who are these "dogs and pigs"? He didn’t just pick two animals at random, rather He’s saying something very specific. Dogs always tend to attempt to assert their (sexual, male on male) dominance over one another in order to be “top dog” (very disgusting really) the way flesh-born religion oriented, prideful people do online where they don't have to answer for there behavior face to face. Swine (pigs) just spend all their time “wallowing in the mire” (sin) 2 Peter 2:22 (I won’t go into exactly what mire is, just know that it smells really, really bad). Sorry about the graphic nature of my words, I just don’t know a more accurate way to put it than how scripture does.

Something you said about having a sense of humor caught my attention. I believe that a (clean and inoffensive) sense of humor is an unspoken fruit of the Spirit. What really caught my attention though is what you said about “it doesn’t take much to amuse me”. It reminded me of something the Spirit had me write several years ago wherein I wrote “pleasure will find you of it’s own accord producing great joy in even the simplest of things, regardless of prevailing circumstances”. I went digging through my archives and finally found it and posted it to our website so I could share it with you. I believe you are one of a very few that could appreciate it so here’s a link:

https://aletheiapraise.wixsite.com/aletheia/pain-and-pleasure

Not much to do with abortion or music but I feel it’s very important in this age of compromised values.

The LORD bless you and keep you.

Calvin_1985 said:

I'm not sure if anyone gave you a song yet, but here is one called "unplanned" by Matthew West.

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Thanks Calvin 1985, Yes people here have sent so many wonderful songs. The intent of my question was to opinions on whether the songs linked would be effective for unbelievers. These are two songs that we wrote and I'm wonder if they would be worthwhile or if presiding opinions would be to focus more on repentance, salvation etc. We're are already singing to a largely secular audience.

Thank you SPF, for your wise and consistent thoughts on this subject. At first I was also of a similar opinion due to so many unsuccessful efforts on my part but lately I’m wondering if maybe it’s not as “cut and dried” as I originally thought, hence, my seeking council on the subject. Is it possible that not all unbelievers are cut from the same cookie cutter mold? May some be drawn to Him “BY” His moral attributes, while others by His love or the witness of a particular believers similar life experience and testimony… or even a song at the right time and place? "One sows, another waters but God gives the increase" (I Co 3:6-7).

I suspect that not all unbelievers are completely without moral conscience, just as not all believers are at the same level of maturity in Christ. My point being, even if we can’t convince an unbeliever to believe (though this would be the ideal) maybe it’s still possible to touch upon the sense of morality or compassion of one who's teetering in indecision to spare an innocent child’s life (who may later grow up to become a believer leading yet others to belief if given the chance of a spared life).

Do you feel a song like this would be more appropriate for a mostly secular audience?: https://aletheiapraise.wixsite.com/aletheia/beatitudes-and-revelation


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These are two songs that we wrote and I'm wonder if they would be worthwhile or if presiding opinions would be to focus more on repentance, salvation etc. We're are already singing to a largely secular audience.
You should sing about what you believe God is leading you to sing about. I suspect nobody here is going to speak with more authority than the Holy Spirit does to you.

That being said~ I've said before that if I wasn't a Christian I probably wouldn't be against abortion. I'm against abortion because I believe that all humans are created in the image of God and possess inherent moral worth and value, and that a new human being comes into existence at fertilization. Therefore, I'm against abortion.

I don't ever expect to change the mind of a non-Christian on abortion. I don't ever expect to change the mind of a non-Christian on any moral issue. In fact, even if I did change the mind of a non-Christian on a specific moral issue, I would consider that of little value if they still walked away with a final destination other than Heaven in tow.

Personally, I think it's more important to lead people to Christ, and then let the work of the Holy Spirit and sanctification change them from the inside.

But that doesn't mean that you shouldn't be doing what you're doing. I don't think the answer is always either or, but often both and when it comes to ministry.
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mourningdove~ said:

I absolutely love your song to Katie Rose. It is beautiful. Just beautiful.

I don't know if hearing these songs would effect change in the heart of an unbeliever …
certainly, the Holy Spirit could use them … may use them … to do so.

The song to Katie Rose?
I think it might really 'speak' to the hearts of women that have had abortions and are suffering with the tragic consequences, as well as to the men that partook in the decision to abort.

Katie Rose is a beautiful and comforting song. The Holy Spirit might use it in that way … to comfort the sorrowful … and perhaps even to gently 'encourage' those still suffering, to seek the healing of Christ for their many hurts.

… I really like the song, and encourage you both to keep writing, singing … and sharing … what the Lord puts on your hearts.

God bless.

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Thank you so much for your very kind and encouraging words. We already have the amazing opportunity of singing to a mostly secular audience and want to make the most of it. Do you feel that we should start with more basic evangelical songs like this?:
https://aletheiapraise.wixsite.com/aletheia/beatitudes-and-revelation