The Lord's day....

Yeshua HaDerekh · May 15, 2019

Jen35 said:
And where is your proof of what anything you just said is in that verse..it just said God rested on the 7th day.which to me sounds like a sunday..to be honest It doesn't matter what day the Sabbath ends..all my life Sunday was always the end of the week to me..it was also known as the 7th day in my head lol

God said it...biblically you would be wrong saying the 7th day is Sunday. If so then you must believe Yeshua raised from the dead on a Monday...

Yeshua HaDerekh · May 15, 2019

Jen35 said:
Sunday is a day of reverence and rest for the Lord in us. It's known as a day of worship for him in this world. (Cliched much?) Jesus said it's not wrong to do good on the Sabbath. But Sunday isn't a work day. Lol and if we are going to do work on that day it seems it would be right to do a good work that honors and respect the Lord and his teachings mutually..no work should be done on Sunday but a good one. But some people still cut thier grass..lol but which is best to cut grass or chopped down and burn weeds full of snakes..

The Sabbath is not on Sunday

Yeshua HaDerekh · May 15, 2019

Jen35 said:
Even if the Sabbath ends on Saturday that is still the 6th day not the 7th...there's 7 days in a week..not 6..so what day falls on the 7th if it is not sunday?

yes on the modern day calendar, but Saturday is biblically the 7th day Sabbath

Strong in Him · May 15, 2019

Jen35 said:
He didn't make Sunday, he rested on that day, the work was already finish..God probably just rested under a tree and just said Sunday...jk and that's how the 7th day came into existence..

He must have created the day, otherwise there wouldn't have been one, just a gap, or void, between the 6th day and the 1st. Scripture says that on the 7th DAY, he rested; the sun came up and went down and yet for that period of time, he did nothing (apparently.)

And I doubt he said "Sunday" - a) Scripture doesn't use those names for the days of the week, and b) Sunday is kept as the 1st day. Jews rest on what we call Saturday, THAT is the 7th day; not Sunday.

Calvin_1985 · May 15, 2019

Jen35 said:
I know nobody knows the day or hour the Lord will come back but I know it will be very soon. Anyway, do you think this is possible, that the Lord will come back on a Sunday since Sunday is known as the Lord's day?..I mean the Bible in Genesis talks about how the Lord made the earth in 7 days but rested on the 7th day which is Sunday I believe. It seems the Lord works on weekdays like a typical human being. But take his day off on Sunday. I also remember a Bible verse from our Lord. He said something about making sure our flight isn't in the winter and on a weekend I think wouldn't it make sense since the Lord would be working all that week and wouldn't it make sense for him to choose sunday that following week since he would have that whole day off? lol call me weird but is it possible the Lord will be coming back on a Sunday on some winter's day? It also says people will be giving into marriages and partying etc...dont people usually do those things on a weekend too? Ha.

As far as I know, the Bible never says that Sunday is the Lords day.

ViaCrucis · May 15, 2019

Jen35 said:
Sunday is not a work day, it's "the" day of worship..lol so to me it seems like the Lord's day ..

That's what it came to be called in early Christian tradition, specifically it was called the kyriake hemera ("Lord's day"), and often was shortened to just "kyriake" ("Lord's"). This is what we see, for example, in the Apocalypse of St. John where John mentions it was on the "Lord's day" when he received his visions (Revelation 1:10). In fact the modern Greek word for "Sunday" continues to be Kyriake.

-CryptoLutheran

ViaCrucis · May 15, 2019

Jen35 said:
Sunday is a day of reverence and rest for the Lord in us. It's known as a day of worship for him in this world. (Cliched much?) Jesus said it's not wrong to do good on the Sabbath. But Sunday isn't a work day. Lol and if we are going to do work on that day it seems it would be right to do a good work that honors and respect the Lord and his teachings mutually..no work should be done on Sunday but a good one. But some people still cut thier grass..lol but which is best to cut grass or chopped down and burn weeds full of snakes..

Sunday isn't the Sabbath. The Sabbath falls on the seventh day of the ancient 7 day weekly cycle, which corresponds with Saturday. Sunday is the first day of the seek.

Christians have not historically observed the Sabbath because the Sabbath was given exclusively to the Jewish people as part of God's covenant with them. The Christian tradition of worshiping on the first day of the week comes from the days of the apostles, and is because Jesus rose from the dead on the first day of the week. That's why it was called "the Lord's day", because it was the day on which Christ rose from the dead.

-CryptoLutheran

He Calls Me Friend · May 15, 2019

ace of hearts said:
There's no sabbath in Gen 2. BTW the 7th day sabbath is never called the Lord's Day in Scripture.

Neither is Sunday ever called "the Lord's Day". There is, however, only one day of which Jesus said he was "Lord":

Mark 2:28 - "Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath." Luke 6:5 - "And he said unto them, That the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath."

Taking into consideration Jesus' words, if any day of the week is "the Lord's Day", I'd say there's a better chance of it being the day of which he said he was Lord, the Sabbath, rather than the first day of the week, Sunday.

His student · May 15, 2019

Jen35 said:
Anyway, do you think this is possible, that the Lord will come back on a Sunday since Sunday is known as the Lord's day?

He tells us that when He returns it will be like the lightning and that every eye will see Him.

It seems to me that, if it's really important for Him to be so seen on a Sunday, He'd have to work His way across various the various time zones including allowances for day light savings time to do it.

To top it off - He'd probably have to stop at the international date line for a while and break out His computer to do a few head scratching calculations.

Bottom line is, for me at least - your idea doesn't really make a lot of sense. But it was fun to think about for a while. No harm no foul.

He Calls Me Friend · May 15, 2019

Jen35 said:
He didn't make Sunday, he rested on that day, the work was already finish..God probably just rested under a tree and just said Sunday...jk and that's how the 7th day came into existence..

What makes you think Sunday was the 7th day of creation? The Bible calls the day Jesus was resurrected the first day of the week", not the 7th. You do believe that Jesus was resurrected on Sunday, don't you?

Mar 16:2 - And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun...

Mar 16:9 - Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils

Luke 24:1 - Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.

John 20:1 - The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

Incidentally, the day BEFORE Jesus was resurrected was called "the Sabbath". The day Jesus was crucified was called "the preparation day", the day preparation was made for the Sabbath.

Jesus said the Sabbath "was made" for mankind. (Mark 2:27) When do you think the Sabbath was "made" if not at creation when God said he "blessed" and "hallowed" the seventh day?

It's very interesting that we find the Creator resting on the 7th day after he created this world and resting on the 7th day after he redeemed this world. Sounds like the 7th day of the week has some significance to me.

visionary · May 15, 2019

ace of hearts said:
There's no sabbath in Gen 2. BTW the 7th day sabbath is never called the Lord's Day in Scripture.

Only a Jew would call the Sabbath, the Lord's Day which Yeshua said He is Lord over.

Blade · May 15, 2019

Well Jen.. I think that was talking about AD 67 and the army of Cestius Gallus enclosed Jerusalem. And I think it was not in winter nor on Sabbath.

We should focus on the one that made the days..focus on Him.. not what others think about some day..

Ken Rank · May 15, 2019

Jen35 said:
I know nobody knows the day or hour the Lord will come back but I know it will be very soon. Anyway, do you think this is possible, that the Lord will come back on a Sunday since Sunday is known as the Lord's day?..I mean the Bible in Genesis talks about how the Lord made the earth in 7 days but rested on the 7th day which is Sunday I believe. It seems the Lord works on weekdays like a typical human being. But take his day off on Sunday. I also remember a Bible verse from our Lord. He said something about making sure our flight isn't in the winter and on a weekend I think wouldn't it make sense since the Lord would be working all that week and wouldn't it make sense for him to choose sunday that following week since he would have that whole day off? lol call me weird but is it possible the Lord will be coming back on a Sunday on some winter's day? It also says people will be giving into marriages and partying etc...dont people usually do those things on a weekend too? Ha.

The 7th day is Saturday. Biblically and culturally, the 7th day is Saturday.

Regarding the Lord's Day. Well after 100AD, people began to refer to resurrection day as the Lord's Day. I don't have an issue with this. But, I don't think a first century Jew would have read Revelation 1 and thought what we think today. I believe he would have thought "the great and terrible day of the Lord" known to that culture and time as, "the Lord's day." John was in the spirit on the last day(s) and seeing what he see. That is the day of the Lord... and whether we say it "day of the Lord" or "Lord's day" we are singling out a day for the Lord. It's like "6 of one, a half dozen of the other."

I believe that he will return on a feast day... either Trumpets or more likely, Yom Kippur. When? No idea... but there is a good reason to consider either of those two feast days.

Tutorman · May 15, 2019

Jen35 said:
Sunday is not a work day, it's "the" day of worship..lol so to me it seems like the Lord's day ..

My Priest told me once when I said that Sunday was not a workday that it was for him

yeshuaslavejeff · May 15, 2019

Jen35 said:
I know nobody knows the day or hour the Lord will come back but I know it will be very soon. Anyway, do you think this is possible, that the Lord will come back on a Sunday since Sunday is known as the Lord's day?

No. Not for that reason anyway. In Scripture, "the Lord's day" never referred to sunday. That came later due to other influences, not Scripture, nor from God.

Danthemailman · May 15, 2019

ace of hearts said:
There's no sabbath in Gen 2. BTW the 7th day sabbath is never called the Lord's Day in Scripture.

Amen brother! The word "Sabbath" first appears in Exodus 16:23 - Then he said to them, “This is what the Lord has said: ‘Tomorrow is a Sabbath rest, a holy Sabbath to the Lord. Bake what you will bake today, and boil what you will boil; and lay up for yourselves all that remains, to be kept until morning.

Sabbath keeping with all it's rules and regulations, was part of a covenant with Israel (Exodus 16:23, 29; 31:12-18; 35:1-3; Leviticus 19:30; 23:2-3, 32; Numbers 15:32-36; 28:1-10; 29:39-40; I Chronicles. 23:30-31; II Chronicles 31:2-4; Isaiah 1:13; Amos 8:5; Nehemiah 10:31) that is not binding on Christians in the New Testament. - (Colossians 2:16-17)

Although God's rest on the seventh day (Genesis 2:3) did foreshadow a future Sabbath law, there is no Biblical record of the Sabbath before the children of Israel left the land of Egypt. *Nowhere in Scripture is there any hint that Sabbath keeping was practiced from Adam to Moses.

Sabbatarians maintain that the "Lord's day" is the Sabbath. They maintain that Jesus said he was Lord of the Sabbath. However this is a very weak argument and the actual evidence for the first day (Sunday) is MUCH stronger! - The Lord's Day - Revelation 1:10 ... The First Day! :oldthumbsup:

klutedavid · May 16, 2019

nonaeroterraqueous said:
Sabbaths were originally established under a lunar calendar. Even if people stopped keeping track of calendar days we could easily figure out which day of the week was the original Sabbath.

I decline to say which day it would be this week, as I do not wish to be misinterpreted by a certain denomination.

You are correct regarding the lunar calendar.

klutedavid · May 16, 2019

Jen35 said:
Sunday is a day of reverence and rest for the Lord in us. It's known as a day of worship for him in this world. (Cliched much?) Jesus said it's not wrong to do good on the Sabbath. But Sunday isn't a work day. Lol and if we are going to do work on that day it seems it would be right to do a good work that honors and respect the Lord and his teachings mutually..no work should be done on Sunday but a good one. But some people still cut thier grass..lol but which is best to cut grass or chopped down and burn weeds full of snakes..

Lots of people work weekends these days that is the nature of shift work.

ace of hearts · May 16, 2019

Danthemailman said:
Amen brother! The word "Sabbath" first appears in Exodus 16:23 - Then he said to them, “This is what the Lord has said: ‘Tomorrow is a Sabbath rest, a holy Sabbath to the Lord. Bake what you will bake today, and boil what you will boil; and lay up for yourselves all that remains, to be kept until morning.

Sabbath keeping with all it's rules and regulations, was part of a covenant with Israel (Exodus 16:23, 29; 31:12-18; 35:1-3; Leviticus 19:30; 23:2-3, 32; Numbers 15:32-36; 28:1-10; 29:39-40; I Chronicles. 23:30-31; II Chronicles 31:2-4; Isaiah 1:13; Amos 8:5; Nehemiah 10:31) that is not binding on Christians in the New Testament. - (Colossians 2:16-17)

Although God's rest on the seventh day (Genesis 2:3) did foreshadow a future Sabbath law, there is no Biblical record of the Sabbath before the children of Israel left the land of Egypt. *Nowhere in Scripture is there any hint that Sabbath keeping was practiced from Adam to Moses.

Sabbatarians maintain that the "Lord's day" is the Sabbath. They maintain that Jesus said he was Lord of the Sabbath. However this is a very weak argument and the actual evidence for the first day (Sunday) is MUCH stronger! - The Lord's Day - Revelation 1:10 ... The First Day!

I think it's interesting these legalist want to promote the sabbath with Gen 2 in the Garden and call what God called good evil. Their legalism will only get them into trouble.

ace of hearts · May 16, 2019

yeshuaslavejeff said:
No. Not for that reason anyway. In Scripture, "the Lord's day" never referred to sunday. That came later due to other influences, not Scripture, nor from God.

Please present any Scripture calling the sabbath the Lord's Day.

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