Explaining the disastrous “grace-only” doctrine

timothyu said:

What good is anyone to the Kingdom that believes in Jesus and sacrifice, yet refuses to reject our nature and see ourselves for the losers that we are, carrying on as man has always done by serving self and keeping the games of mankind alive? Repent doesn't mean, 'oh sorry'. It means change.

Who here takes sides in world affairs instead of doing as commanded and takes sides between world and Kingdom?

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I agree! Repent is meta- noia change your thoughts.

Repentance is a change of thinking and agreeing with God that what He calls sin is sin!

Repentance begins the process of a changing in Action!

See being born again is not just saying a prayer and salvation is added to us! It is a brand new birth! We become a brands new child of God!

We have a new desire- that is to serve god! It is not a once for all perfect in action thing- but a process of being transformed! Some transform faster than others! But as Jesus said

Matthew 12:20
A bruised reed shall he not break, and smoking flax shall he not quench, till he send forth judgment unto victory.

those who struggle and strive and seem to be stumble bums (my word) He will not stomp on the m or extinguish them out just because they are struggling. Paul said upon these we should bestow more abundant honor!

BCsenior said:

speakin' more of where you're really at.
Bravo!

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nolidad said:

Repentance is a change of thinking and agreeing with God that what He calls sin is sin!

Repentance begins the process of a changing in Action!

See being born again is not just saying a prayer and salvation is added to us! It is a brand new birth! We become a brands new child of God!

We have a new desire- that is to serve god! It is not a once for all perfect in action thing- but a process of being transformed! Some transform faster than others!

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A complete 180. The Kingdom was called upside down to the ways of the world of man. The early Christians were called Haters of Man simply because they rejected the self serving ways of mankind. Of course the religion would eventually transition itself back to being an institution of the world of man like all that went before. Today more than ever those ways of man are glorified even within Christianity as if somehow God was making that which He opposes great again.

timothyu said:

A complete 180. The Kingdom was called upside down to the ways of the world of man. The early Christians were called Haters of Man simply because they rejected the self serving ways of mankind. Of course the religion would eventually transition itself back to being an institution of the world of man like all that went before. Today more than ever those ways of man are glorified even within Christianity as if somehow God was making that which He opposes great again.

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Absolutely, that is why this age is called the Age of Laodecia or the people rule instead of god within churches.

BCsenior said:

Sorry, Dave, I wasn't accusing you of anything!
I was commenting on your radical change
(IMO) over the past few weeks/months!
Sorry that it came across as an accusation.

It must have been some other topics that
you were way off base on, i.e. cessationism.

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You must not understand what I'm saying if you think my position changed.