Why do Christians not post the 11 commandments.

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This will not be popular, but it has to be said.

To whom was the Decalogue addressed to?

Hint: the answer is in Ex. 20:2.

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The original ten were given under the OLD COVENANT. While they still apply, Jesus' commandments were given under the NEW COVENANT.

While it may be under the old covenant, here is where we will disagree.

Moses is on Mt. Sinai for his meeting with God.

In Ex.20:2, we have this:

"I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage."

And starting in the very next verse, we see the Decalogue being given.

Were Gentiles "in bondage"?

Were Gentiles "in Egypt"?

Did God and Moses led "Gentiles" "out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage."?

No.

The Decalogue, as given at Mt. Sinai, applied exclusively to the Hebrews.

in fact, if you want to take it one step further, advance yourself to the time just prior to Israel crossing over into Canaan and you have God giving Moses the second set.

In Deut 4, we read:

"And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone." -Deut. 4:13 (KJV)

Moses didn't receive only the Decalogue while on Mt. Sinai, he also was given the entire "Torah".

And notice well that God Himself calls both the Decalogue and the Torah combined "his covenant".

Fact, in the OT era, Gentiles (anybody who were not Hebrew) were not included in "His covenant".

From an Old Testament perspective, William Gulbrod gives the following definition of the Hebrew “Law”:

“The Laws are in the strictest sense, the requirements of the God to whom Israel belongs because he has revealed himself in the exodus from Egypt and because in all future wars He will show Himself to be the God of His people. Thus the motive for keeping the law is simply that of obedience in so far as there is any conscious reflection on the question of motivation.”[1]

Arthur W. Pink defines the “Law” thusly:

“The law was given to Israel not that they might be redeemed, but because they had been redeemed. The notion had been brought out of Egypt by the power of God under the blood of the slain lamb, itself the symbol and token of His grace. The Law added at Sinai as the necessary standard life for a ransomed people, a people now belonged to the Lord…. The Law was given that they now stood to God, of a salvation which was already theirs. The covenant of the Law did not supersede the covenant of promise, but set forth the kind of life which those who were redeemed by the covenant of promise were expected to live.”[2]

The nature of the Law is in keeping with this in that:

A. Its demands are unconditional.

This may be seen in the style of the series of Laws, in their harsh severity, in their uncompromising formulation which weighs the act as such and not the background or special circumstances.

B. The form of the commands (or prohibitions) is negative.

Here is fresh confirmation that the theological setting of this Law is the covenant of election. For there is not commanded what establishes the relation to Yahweh, but prohibited what destroyed it.

C. This does not exclude the persuasive aspect of the commandments.

This may be seen in the way in which the proclamation of the Law seeks to make an impression on the will of the hearer and to make transgression inwardly impossible by a recollection of Yahweh’s acts. For this reason, there is reference to punishment for violation but not any special reward for fulfillment.

D. Moreover, for all its brevity, this Law is comprehensive.

Not merely the cultus but the whole of life stands under this law. The claim of this God to dominion leaves no neutral zone.

E. Finally, it belongs to the very essence of these laws that they should be addressed to all Israel.

[1] W. Golbrod, The Theological Dictionary of the New Testament, Gerhard Kittel, Editor, Geoffrey W. Bromiley, Translator, Erdmans Publishing, Grand Rapids, Mi., Copyright 1964.

[2] Arthur W. Pink, The Law and the Spirit, [article on-line] accessed 11/18/2007, found on the world wide web at http://www.thehighway.com/Law_Pink.html.

So you cannot apply a "law" to Gentiles that was never meant for them.

Especially when we are told/rather read in Hebrews, that the old was done away, and we (Hebrews) are under a "new covenant, established on better promises".

Sorry.

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Christ gave us a new commandment in John 13:34. So for thousands of years we've only listed the 10 commandments in public places, why do we consistently ignore our precious saviors new commandment?
Yahuweh never changed the commandments.

"..... why do we consistently ...."

because people are so fallible.... consistently failing.
 
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That's right.

From a post a few years back:

"From an Old Testament perspective, William Gulbrod gives the following definition of the Hebrew “Law”:

“The Laws are in the strictest sense, the requirements of the God to whom Israel belongs because he has revealed himself in the exodus from Egypt and because in all future wars He will show Himself to be the God of His people. Thus the motive for keeping the law is simply that of obedience in so far as there is any conscious reflection on the question of motivation.”[1]

Arthur W. Pink defines the “Law” thusly:

“The law was given to Israel not that they might be redeemed, but because they had been redeemed. The notion had been brought out of Egypt by the power of God under the blood of the slain lamb, itself the symbol and token of His grace. The Law added at Sinai as the necessary standard life for a ransomed people, a people now belonged to the Lord…. The Law was given that they now stood to God, of a salvation which was already theirs. The covenant of the Law did not supersede the covenant of promise, but set forth the kind of life which those who were redeemed by the covenant of promise were expected to live.”[2]

Then we can say that the “Law” are divine commandments, statements, principles of ethics given by God as contained in the first five books of the Christian Bible most commonly known as the “Law of Moses: as found in the Pentateuch or the Torah.

So as far as the Old Testament is concerned, it may be said that the law was a statement of principles of ethics that defined two things: a.) Mans relationship to their redeemer, and: b.) Man’s relationship to his fellow man.

Nevertheless, it is God who said:

“I am Jehovah your God, who has brought you out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.”

In this verse, God says “your” and “you”. This is of particular interest because here God is addressing Israel/the Hebrews exclusively. Thus, the Laws are in the strictest sense the requirements of the God to Israel of whom they belong. Therefore the motive for keeping the Law is simply that the obedience in so far as there is any conscious reflection on the question of motivation.

The nature of the Law is in keeping with this in that:

A. Its demands are unconditional.

This may be seen in the style of the series of Laws, in their harsh severity, in their uncompromising formulation which weighs the act as such and not the background or special circumstances.

B. The form of the commands (or prohibitions) is negative.

Here is fresh confirmation that the theological setting of this Law is the covenant of election. For there is not commanded what establishes the relation to Yahweh, but prohibited what destroyed it.

C. This does not exclude the persuasive aspect of the commandments.

This may be seen in the way in which the proclamation of the Law seeks to make an impression on the will of the hearer and to make transgression inwardly impossible by a recollection of Yahweh’s acts. For this reason, there is reference to punishment for violation but not any special reward for fulfillment.

D. Moreover, for all its brevity, this Law is comprehensive.

Not merely the cultus but the whole of life stands under this law. The claim of this God to dominion leaves no neutral zone.

E. Finally, it belongs to the very essence of these laws that they should be addressed to all Israel.

Here, the individual is treated as a member of the people, and the neighbor to whom the Law refers is a compatriot. Similarly, punishment in cases of infringement is a matter for the whole body. Stoning as the prescribed mode of execution allows all to participate, (cf. Deut. 13:9) and when a murder is not cleared up the nearest community is under obligation to make atonement. (Deut. 21:1)


All this already indicates the aim of the Law. It is designed to bind the people and the individual to God. Hence the commandment “Thou shalt have no other God’s before me.” Therefore, the Law seeks to regulate the relationship of the covenant people and the individual to the covenant God, to regulate it on the basis of the election of this people by this God, and by the avoidance of things which might disrupt the relationship."

[1] W. Golbrod, The Theological Dictionary of the New Testament, Gerhard Kittel, Editor, Geoffrey W. Bromiley, Translator, Erdmans Publishing, Grand Rapids, Mi., Copyright 1964.

[2] Arthur W. Pink, The Law and the Spirit, [article on-line] accessed 11/18/2007, found on the world wide web at http://www.thehighway.com/Law_Pink.html.

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And here again, you don't think that Moses spent 40 days on Mt. Sinai just to come back with the Decalogue?

"And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone." -Deut. 4:13 (KJV)

What is important here, is God combines both the Decalogue and Torah into one calling it "His Covenant".

Christians are not under that Covenant.

That "covenant" according to the Book of Hebrews, is done away with.

"Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord." -Heb. 8:9 (KJV)

Even the New Testament says its done away with.

Yes, the Decalogue is a good thing. We should teach our children them. But its not a requirement.

Sorry.

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