LDS Why does the Mormon Quad contridict about GOD

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So why did Jesus tell Judas that he would be a judge and sit on a throne?

He spoke to the 12 at that time. That is what lay ahead of Judas had he not fallen. Jesus also washed His feet and Jesus also said:
Luk_22:18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.

He will not be there to drink with Jesus---his replacement will---along with all the saved, of course. Free will.
 
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Judas was one of the apostles Jesus addressed, therefore Judas will sit on a throne and judge Israel. However, you said "Judas was a devil. He won't even be in heaven." You are saying that Jesus was wrong.

Perhaps YOU are the one saying that Jesus is wrong:

Mark 14:21
17And in the evening he cometh with the twelve. 18And as they sat and did eat, Jesus said, Verily I say unto you, One of you which eateth with me shall betray me. 19And they began to be sorrowful, and to say unto him one by one, Is it I? and another said, Is it I? 20 And he answered and said unto them, It is one of the twelve, that dippeth with me in the dish. 21The Son of man indeed goeth, as it is written of him: but woe to that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! good were it for that man if he had never been born.
 
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Perhaps YOU are the one saying that Jesus is wrong:

Mark 14:21
17And in the evening he cometh with the twelve. 18And as they sat and did eat, Jesus said, Verily I say unto you, One of you which eateth with me shall betray me. 19And they began to be sorrowful, and to say unto him one by one, Is it I? and another said, Is it I? 20 And he answered and said unto them, It is one of the twelve, that dippeth with me in the dish. 21The Son of man indeed goeth, as it is written of him: but woe to that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! good were it for that man if he had never been born.
Perhaps he will be the one who judges wrongfully to those who judged others wrongfully:
(New Testament | Matthew 7:2)

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
 
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Perhaps he will be the one who judges wrongfully to those who judged others wrongfully:
(New Testament | Matthew 7:2)

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

The lost judge no one---they go to the lake of fire for the 2nd death.
 
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Perhaps he will be the one who judges wrongfully to those who judged others wrongfully:
(New Testament | Matthew 7:2)

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

I'm not a person's judge. I'm a believer who reads and shares the word of God.
 
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Psalm 41
9 "Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me."

Psalm 109
8 "Let his days be few; and let another take his office."

Acts 1
15 And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,) 16 Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus. 17 For he was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry. 18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out. 19 And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood.

20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.

John 17
11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are. 12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.
 
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I'm not a person's judge. I'm a believer who reads and shares the word of God.
So we are back to the beginning. The Bible can't be wrong about anything so Judas will be a judge and sit on a throne as Jesus has stated.
 
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I *know* you and I have been over this before.

Individual portions of the work have theological merit, and those portions have indeed been cited.

Thing is, what's cited represents the most current edition of the work as of the time the citation is made. If there's a works cited page, one can check it for verification.

In contrast, critics of the church love to quote the earliest editions of the work they can find, not cite the edition, and falsely present it as being 100% canonical.
We have. McConkie was teaching false doctrine, yet was called to be a [false] prophet in your organization. You can dance around it all you want, but the lds church has a credibility problem in their historical leadership ranks. A house built on sand...
 
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We have. McConkie was teaching false doctrine, yet was called to be a [false] prophet in your organization. You can dance around it all you want, but the lds church has a credibility problem in their historical leadership ranks. A house built on sand...

McConkie accepted that he screwed up and revised the work as part of the correction process.

Case closed.
 
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We have. McConkie was teaching false doctrine, yet was called to be a [false] prophet in your organization. You can dance around it all you want, but the lds church has a credibility problem in their historical leadership ranks. A house built on sand...
Why don't you accept the Apocrypha? Could it be because there is false doctrine in it? Is it the pot calling the stove black? Do you have a credibility problem too?
 
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So we are back to the beginning. The Bible can't be wrong about anything so Judas will be a judge and sit on a throne as Jesus has stated.

Jesus stated he is a devil. He did not point to Judas and say you will be a judge in heaven. He spoke to the 12 and that would have been his place also---but God does not force and Judas had free will and used it to betray the son of God and to kill himself instead of repenting. He chose to give up his seat---it will be given to his replacement.
 
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Jesus stated he is a devil. He did not point to Judas and say you will be a judge in heaven. He spoke to the 12 and that would have been his place also---but God does not force and Judas had free will and used it to betray the son of God and to kill himself instead of repenting. He chose to give up his seat---it will be given to his replacement.
Citation needed.
 
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