Doctors astonished after miraculous near death experience recovery.

Do you think that Gloria Polo's doctors really were amazed?

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  • Possibly.... I suppose I cannot rule out what might appear to be a miracle???

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Reluctantly, I watched nearly half of it, and unless the rest suggested something miraculous, I don't see it.

I see a man who got very sick and survived a survivable disease. Was there anything else to it? I actually think he's using God/the situation, to monetize it/get famous, but again will be happy to hear reasons suggesting I am wrong.

Also, and I hope someone will tell me if I missed something, but here is a quote from the good Dr, that was obtained at the following URL:

Bacterial meningitis with such a rapid decline in neurologic function conferred a 90 percent mortality rate,

My Experience in Coma (NDE) by Dr. Eben Alexander

But then I see this when searching "Bacterial Meningitis survival rate":

One large study of adults with community-acquired bacterial meningitis reported an overall mortality rate of 21%,

Acute Bacterial Meningitis in Adults

I ask someone to check my findings because I cannot imagine the Dr being that reckless, so I must be wrong.

I bought his book and it is certainly well written.... here are three paragraphs that really jumped out at me:

“It is my belief that we are now facing a crucial time in our existence. We need to recover more of that larger knowledge while living here on earth, while our brains (including its left side analytical parts) are fully functioning. Science --- the science to which I’ve devoted so much of my life ---- doesn’t contradict what I learned up there. But far, far too many people believe it does, because certain members of the scientific community, who are pledged to the materialist worldview, have insisted again and again that science and spirituality cannot coexist.

They are mistaken. Making this ancient but ultimately basic fact more widely known is why I have written this book, and it renders all the other aspects of my story ---- the mystery of how I contracted my illness, of how I managed to be conscious in another dimension for the week of my coma, and how I somehow recovered so completely ---- entirely secondary.


The unconditional love and acceptance that I experienced on my journey is the single most important discovery I have ever made, or will ever make, and as hard as I know it’s going to be to unpack the lessons I learned there, I also know in my heart that sharing this very basic message ----- one so simple that most children readily accept it ---- is the most important task I have.” (Dr. Eben Alexander, page 72, Proof of Heaven.)

His being reunited with his birth parents has some aspects and added details that reminds me of how three year and ten month old Colton Burpo was able to tell his parents that he had a sister in heaven........ they did not even know that his older miscarried sibling had been a girl. Dr. Eben Alexander met his deceased sister during his NDE..... but did not recognize her until after he met his biological parents after fifty years of separation due to his being adopted.

He finishes explaining that at 1:36:00 or so in the video.
 
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I bought his book and it is certainly well written.... here are three paragraphs that really jumped out at me:



His being reunited with his birth parents has some aspects and added details that reminds me of how three year and ten month old Colton Burpo was able to tell his parents that he had a sister in heaven........ they did not even know that his older miscarried sibling had been a girl. Dr. Eben Alexander met his deceased sister during his NDE..... but did not recognize her until after he met his biological parents after fifty years of separation due to his being adopted.

He finishes explaining that at 1:36:00 or so in the video.

When Science and Religion begin to work in harmony, superstition will fade and great scientific discoveries will unfold.

Regards Tony
 
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When Science and Religion begin to work in harmony, superstition will fade and great scientific discoveries will unfold.
That's not going to happen until the Tribulation period, when a superscientist is going to unite evolution with abiogenesis in an amazing demonstration to a shrewdness of scientists.
 
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That's not going to happen until the Tribulation period, when a superscientist is going to unite evolution with abiogenesis in an amazing demonstration to a shrewdness of scientists.

All the best then. Regards Tony
 
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All the best then. Regards Tony
If all the best means scientists lining up to take the Mark, then come after us Christians ...

Revelation 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

... then you can skip the regards, Tony.
 
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That's not going to happen until the Tribulation period, when a superscientist is going to unite evolution with abiogenesis in an amazing demonstration to a shrewdness of scientists.

Will this be in your book?
 
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Reluctantly, I watched nearly half of it, and unless the rest suggested something miraculous, I don't see it.

I see a man who got very sick and survived a survivable disease. Was there anything else to it? I actually think he's using God/the situation, to monetize it/get famous, but again will be happy to hear reasons suggesting I am wrong.

Also, and I hope someone will tell me if I missed something, but here is a quote from the good Dr, that was obtained at the following URL:

Bacterial meningitis with such a rapid decline in neurologic function conferred a 90 percent mortality rate,

My Experience in Coma (NDE) by Dr. Eben Alexander

But then I see this when searching "Bacterial Meningitis survival rate":

One large study of adults with community-acquired bacterial meningitis reported an overall mortality rate of 21%,

Acute Bacterial Meningitis in Adults

I ask someone to check my findings because I cannot imagine the Dr being that reckless, so I must be wrong.

The phrase 'with such a rapid decline in neurologic function' is rather important. It means the case was worse than average. Thus the difference between a 21% mortality rate and a 90% mortality rate.

But if overcoming a 10 to 1 shot is a miracle then I suggest people go to the racetrack as they will have a pretty good chance of seeing a miracle!
 
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If all the best means scientists lining up to take the Mark, then come after us Christians ...

Revelation 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

... then you can skip the regards, Tony.

Except I beleive we are in Judgement day.

To me the Father has come, as promised.

All the best, regards Tony
 
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When Science and Religion begin to work in harmony, superstition will fade and great scientific discoveries will unfold.

Regards Tony

I absolutely agree with you Tony!
Mellen Benedict, near-death .com/
Soon our science will quantify spirit. Isn't that going to be wonderful? We are coming up with devices now that are sensitive to subtle energy or spirit energy. Physicists use these atomic colliders to smash atoms to see what they are made of. They have got it down to quarks and charm, and all that. Well, one day they are going to come down to the little thing that holds it all together, and they are going to have to call that ... God. With atomic colliders they are not only seeing what is in here, but they are creating particles. Thank God most of them are short-lived milliseconds and nanoseconds. We are just beginning to understand that we are creating too, as we go along.

As I saw forever, I came to a realm in which there is a point where we pass all knowledge and begin creating the next fractal, the next level. We have that power to create as we explore. And that is God expanding itself through us.
 
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Except I beleive we are in Judgement day.

To me the Father has come, as promised.

All the best, regards Tony
The Father isn't coming back until the Son first rules and reigns for a thousand years, with Satan locked up in the Bottomless Pit.

After that, Satan is loosed and gathers all those who oppose Jesus into one massive multinational army and attack Him en mass.

It will make academia's attack on Bob Larson in Winnipeg in 1995 look like kids playing connect-the-dots.
 
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The Father isn't coming back until the Son first rules and reigns for a thousand years, with Satan locked up in the Bottomless Pit.

After that, Satan is loosed and gathers all those who oppose Jesus into one massive multinational army and attack Him en mass.

It will make academia's attack on Bob Larson in Winnipeg in 1995 look like kids playing connect-the-dots.

The Jews still await and that is the greatest lesson to learn, it tells us why Christ caught us like a thief in the night.

Regards Tony
 
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The Jews still await and that is the greatest lesson to learn, it tells us why Christ caught us like a thief in the night.

Regards Tony
You refer to future events in the past tense.

Are you a preterist?
 
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You refer to future events in the past tense.

Are you a preterist?

I am called a Baha'i but not a follower of Names. God is the focus of all our Love. One must know Christ to know the Father.

I see NDE's as a God given gift, a glimpse of what it is to be born again in the Spirit. As we know and Christ said. The flesh amounts to nothing, it is the spirit that is life.

Yet when one tells of a great journey they had in spirit, the first thing a few people do is be highly sceptical. I see we should at least consider what was offered.

My wife had an out of body experience with the birth of our youngest son. She actually watched from above in the room, as they did an emergency operation. Without eyes and with a screen that was between her eyes and the operation, yet she was able to describe everything that happened, everything everybody did, plain as day saw our son being removed and born, all the while out to this world.

It was a close shave, I nearly lost both of them. There is no scientific way to explain these events, they are of a mind that is not attached to the body.

Regards Tony
 
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I see NDE's as a God given gift,
NDEs are Satanic and not for this dispensation.

Don't you think that, as the Rapture approaches, NDEs are starting to be a dime a dozen?

Do you think that's coincidental?

If you want to report a God-given gift so bad, tell me about His grace through faith.

Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Those who have NDEs are making a mockery of the Bible.

I don't want to hear about your wife watching herself having a baby, for crying out loud.

They put that screen up for a reason.

I want to hear how your wife was saved by grace through faith in Christ Jesus.

These people who are having NDEs, OOBEs, spiritual eavesdropping, and astral projecting are playing with fire.
 
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If you want to report a God-given gift so bad, tell me about His grace through faith.

Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Those who have NDEs are making a mockery of the Bible.

We all have to consider what scriptures are applicable to our own selves, after all it is each of us that is judged and we answer for our own faith and works, or lack thereof. Thus accusing someone of mockery may be from a position of havng a plank in ones own eye and then tying to remove a splinter from another's eye.

No on can use the excuse, well others took it all the wrong way as well. ;)

I see what that passage says is that deeds are a neccessary part of acceptance of Christ and that it is a gift from Christ that we consider and undertake good works. It does not say we do not need them, far from it in fact. It is saying that the good works do not come from ones own self, they are motivated by our Love of God and Christ.

It does not mean one can say I beleive and get an out of goal free card, without the God given gift of the required deeds.

Would you like those passages quoted?

You made me laugh.....how many monitors do you think were in rural Australian hospitals in late 1980? :D:p actually in any hospital. We blind ourselves with our prejudices. They are the clouds Christ returns upon.

Regards Tony
 
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Would you like those passages quoted?
No, thank you.

I don't need Baha'i, whose founder was a false prophet, shoved in my face.

I consider myself an antagonist against the academic religion, not the cults.
 
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No, thank you.

I don't need Baha'i, whose founder was a false prophet, shoved in my face.

I consider myself an antagonist against the academic religion, not the cults.

It was Bible passages ;)

Peace be with you.

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I am called a Baha'i but not a follower of Names. God is the focus of all our Love. One must know Christ to know the Father.

I see NDE's as a God given gift, a glimpse of what it is to be born again in the Spirit. As we know and Christ said. The flesh amounts to nothing, it is the spirit that is life.

Yet when one tells of a great journey they had in spirit, the first thing a few people do is be highly sceptical. I see we should at least consider what was offered.

My wife had an out of body experience with the birth of our youngest son. She actually watched from above in the room, as they did an emergency operation. Without eyes and with a screen that was between her eyes and the operation, yet she was able to describe everything that happened, everything everybody did, plain as day saw our son being removed and born, all the while out to this world.

It was a close shave, I nearly lost both of them. There is no scientific way to explain these events, they are of a mind that is not attached to the body.

Regards Tony

Wow!!!!!!!!
 
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NDEs are Satanic and not for this dispensation.

Don't you think that, as the Rapture approaches, NDEs are starting to be a dime a dozen?

Do you think that's coincidental?

If you want to report a God-given gift so bad, tell me about His grace through faith.

Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Those who have NDEs are making a mockery of the Bible.

I don't want to hear about your wife watching herself having a baby, for crying out loud.

They put that screen up for a reason.

I want to hear how your wife was saved by grace through faith in Christ Jesus.

These people who are having NDEs, OOBEs, spiritual eavesdropping, and astral projecting are playing with fire.


Do you more about this topic than the Apostle Paul did AV1611VET?

You might want to consider the example of the Apostle Paul to NOT be dogmatic and overly simplistic in his thinking when it comes to the possibility of out of the body experiences or near death experiences?

2 Corinthians 12
2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.

3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;)

4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.
 
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The Jews still await and that is the greatest lesson to learn, it tells us why Christ caught us like a thief in the night.

Regards Tony

A man from Uganda who I get the impression had a near death experience during a bout of malaria was given some interesting insights on another event that the Jews are awaiting. (A non-Jews who does some really, really, really BIG.... OK HUGE things for the Jewish people)!

Eporu Ronald Alfred

Kakira Deliverance Church,
P.O. Box 3191, Kakira, Jinja, Uganda

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Dear brethren,
I salute you in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ!

RE: SHARING NEW DISCOVERIES OF THE TRUTH IN BIBLE PROPHECY CONCERNING THE IMMINENT HEALING AND UNITY OF THE CHURCH

I am mesmerized by the truth in bible prophecy that the Spirit of God has been revealing over the recent years. Secret things belong to God and those that are revealed belong to us and our children... (Deut 29: 29).

1. King Cyrus the great ruled his country 555 years Before Christ i.e. from 576 BC to 530 BC and authorised the rebuilding of the second temple in Jerusalem. Cyrus of the Old Testament is hence associated with the number 555 and is the shadow figure of incoming Cyrus II of the New Testament. You may learn more about his history from the internet and scriptures. This new truth enables us to identify the leadership of the world that will rebuild the temple in Jerusalem as prophesied in book of Isaiah before the rise of antichrist. Cyrus II is coming to revive the evangelical/Pentecostal church in Jerusalem and restore the headquarters of the church in same city where the church was born. He is set to strip Babylon of the vessels of the temple and the name of the Lord God and transfer that crown back to Jerusalem thus leaving Babylon naked. Cyrus will rebuild the temple in Jerusalem in fulfilment of the prophecy of Jesus as written in the book of John 2:18-23 and the prophecy of Isaiah as written in chapters 40, 41, 45 and 47 of the book of Isaiah. Jesus regarded the temple as the symbol of his own body while saying that he had the power to lay it down on the first day (1st millennium) and rebuild or raise it up on the 3rd day (3rd millennium). Remember that one day in the eyes of God is the same as one thousand years (millennium) as stated in book of 2 Peter 3:8. Rebuilding of the temple is thus associated with unification of the church.

Cyrus II will rebuild the temple in honour of our lord Jesus Christ. The temple will be the unifying (rallying) point of the world wide evangelical church as the original headquarters of the church. Psalms133 denotes that there is such a powerful anointing that comes along with unity among brethren. Unification of the whole body of Jesus Christ will make the church so powerful that she will overrun the world within a short time before the return of our lord Jesus Christ. A divided church is a powerless church whereas a united church is a powerful church. The church can only be able to fulfil her ultimate mission of revealing Jesus to the world once we get united as one body of Jesus Christ following his last prayer for his disciples as written in John 17:20-23.

Cyrus II will erase that false image of Jesus that the counterfeit and Idolatrous state church of Babylon has been projecting around the world and revive the original church that projects the true brilliant image of Jesus Christ. Haggai 2:9 says that the glory of the latter church (temple) will be greater than the glory of the former church (temple).The rise of Cyrus will also usher in the ultimate fulfilment of the prophecy of Joel 2:28 where God intends to pour out His Spirit on all flesh in these last days. The era of Cyrus brings the gentile period of grace to its close and leads to the restoration of the Jewish period of grace and salvation.




2. King Manasseh was the shadow figure (forerunner) of the antichrist in the Old Testament who ruled over Jerusalem exactly 666 years Before Christ i.e. from 697 BC to 642 BC. (2 chronicle 33: 1-2 and 2 kings 21: 1-17). Antichrist is associated with the number 666 as written in the book of Revelation 13:18. Manasseh was the most evil king to have ever ruled over the city of Jerusalem and kingdom of Judah.

Manasseh is reported to have killed so many innocent people in Jerusalem that the streets of Jerusalem were flowing with blood; he worshiped pagan idols and stars; he built pagan alters for idols and stars in the very courtyards of the temple; he sacrificed his sons to idols; he consulted diviners and mediums; he even set up an abominable pagan image at the temple that causes desolation just as the incoming antichrist will do. It was on that basis that God decided to have that first temple destroyed completely since Manasseh had desecrated it.



3. Prophet Jonah was the shadow figure (forerunner) of Jesus Christ in the Old Testament who undertook his prophetic ministry around 777 B.C. Prophet Jonah is hence associated with the number 777. He arose from the shadow and demise of Prophet Elisha. His preaching radiated such great power and authority that turned the city of Nineveh as the rising super power of that time up side down within 3 days only (read the book of Jonah). Jonah was the prophetic force behind the restoration of the lost territories of Israel in the reign of King Jeroboam II of Israel between 782 BC and 741 BC as written in II Kings 14:25. Jonah related with God more or less as his own father and God loved him more or less as His own son. He volunteered to die save occupants of the ship and was raised to life after three days just like Jesus Christ. Jesus compared himself with Jonah as his forerunner in the Old Testament as far as his earthly ministry, death and resurrection was concerned in Mathew 12; 38-41, Luke 11; 29-32. Jesus will also oversee the restoration of the lost territories of Israel just like prophet Jonah when he comes to rule as the king of kings and Lord of Lords. We can therefore correctly associate Jesus Christ with the number 777 just like Jonah as our commander-in-chief, Lord of the Sabbath and fountain of life.

The more we know where we came from the more we know where we are going. You are cordially invited to visit my face book home page for more information and messages. Feel free to share this truth with other brethren just as I received it free of charge from God.

Your brother in Christ

Eporu Ronald
Scientist & Minister of Bible Prophecy
 
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