OCA and GOA in communion or not?

SingularityOne · May 10, 2019

I know that ROCOR and GOA are not in communion as of now, but is the GOA in communion with the OCA?

God willing there is a reunion soon.

archer75 · May 10, 2019

Yes they are in communion with the OCA.

And GOA didn't break with the ROC. It is still one-way.

Andrei D · May 10, 2019

Yes. OCA is autocephalous and is not under the Moscow Patriarchate.

SingularityOne · May 10, 2019

archer75 said:
Yes they are in communion with the OCA.

And GOA didn't break with the ROC. It is still one-way.

Thank you. I didn't know that.

SingularityOne · May 10, 2019

Andrei D said:
Yes. OCA is autocephalous and is not under the Moscow Patriarchate.

Thank you for informing me. I appreciate it.

Jude1:3Contendforthefaith · May 10, 2019

So can a man who has gone through Chrismation and Baptism in an American Greek Orthodox Church attend any of these Seminaries / Orthodox Colleges ?

List of Eastern Orthodox universities and colleges in the United States - Wikipedia

Zummi · May 10, 2019

Jude1:3Contendforthefaith said:
So can a man who has gone through Chrismation and Baptism in an American Greek Orthodox Church attend any of these Seminaries / Orthodox Colleges ?

List of Eastern Orthodox universities and colleges in the United States - Wikipedia

Certainly in any of them not under the Patriarch of Moscow. It gets trickier if they wanted to go to a Moscow seminary, but I've seen Non-Chalcedonians at Holy Cross in Brookline so I don't know

ArmyMatt · May 11, 2019

Jude1:3Contendforthefaith said:
So can a man who has gone through Chrismation and Baptism in an American Greek Orthodox Church attend any of these Seminaries / Orthodox Colleges ?

List of Eastern Orthodox universities and colleges in the United States - Wikipedia

with the bishop's and spiritual father's blessing, yes.

“Paisios” · May 11, 2019

SingularityOne said:
I know that ROCOR and GOA are not in communion as of now, but is the GOA in communion with the OCA?

God willing there is a reunion soon.

I asked my priest just that question last week, as I plan to visit my hometown next month and attend an OCA parish there. He said that GOA and OCA are currently in communion with each other.

ArmyMatt · May 11, 2019

to the OP, yes, we are in communion with GOA. I am an OCA priest and have served with Greek clergy.

archer75 · May 11, 2019

(The OCA is also in communion with the ROC.)

Andrei D · May 11, 2019

ArmyMatt said:
with the bishop's and spiritual father's blessing, yes.

Just curious - how far does that apply?

I would note, for instance, that at least one of those in the list appears to be Old Calendarist Greeks. Is any canonical Church in communion with them?

Can one go to a non-denominational / interfaith Divinity School then be ordained in OCA or GOA for example?

ArmyMatt · May 11, 2019

Andrei D said:
Just curious - how far does that apply?

I would note, for instance, that at least one of those in the list appears to be Old Calendarist Greeks. Is any canonical Church in communion with them?

Can one go to a non-denominational / interfaith Divinity School then be ordained in OCA or GOA for example?

pretty much all seminaries require a bishop's blessing,

no, we are not in communion with any Old Calendarist group.

and yes, but usually only if you went there prior to becoming Orthodox or after going to an Orthodox seminary.

MariaJLM · May 12, 2019

ArmyMatt said:
to the OP, yes, we are in communion with GOA. I am an OCA priest and have served with Greek clergy.

This surprises me since I'm in a EP jurisdiction and our bishop apparently instructed our clergy that they're no longer allowed to serve with OCA clergy(and MP clergy as well, obviously). Maybe it's to do with the fact we're a Ukrainian jurisdiction so the whole conflict affects a lot of us personally, idk.

ArmyMatt · May 12, 2019

MariaJLM said:
This surprises me since I'm in a EP jurisdiction and our bishop apparently instructed our clergy that they're no longer allowed to serve with OCA clergy(and MP clergy as well, obviously). Maybe it's to do with the fact we're a Ukrainian jurisdiction so the whole conflict affects a lot of us personally, idk.

just curious, are you under Met Methodios of Boston?

MariaJLM · May 12, 2019

ArmyMatt said:
just curious, are you under Met Methodios of Boston?

Nope. Met. Yuri of Winnipeg.

Andrei D · May 12, 2019

This stuff is getting so complicated and sad. I pray and hope that an Ecumenical Synod will be possible and soon.

ArmyMatt · May 12, 2019

MariaJLM said:
Nope. Met. Yuri of Winnipeg.

that's interesting. we have a Ukrainian Deacon who is a seminarian at St Tikhon's.

“Paisios” · May 13, 2019

ArmyMatt said:
just curious, are you under Met Methodios of Boston?

I am under Met. Methodios. My priest told me our laity can commune with the OCA in general and in the Boston diocese, but that there was some kind of prohibition for the OCA/GOA clergy serving together in that particular diocese (though he didn’t go into details)?

ArmyMatt · May 13, 2019

“Paisios” said:
I am under Met. Methodios. My priest told me our laity can commune with the OCA in general and in the Boston diocese, but that there was some kind of prohibition for the OCA/GOA clergy serving together in that particular diocese (though he didn’t go into details)?

okay, I thought it extended to the laity. thanks!

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