women long hair, men short hair

lambofgod43985889 said:

sincerely, how looks a man with his hair up to his waist?

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Freedom in Christ, bro!

lambofgod43985889 said:

this is what apostle paul says, as far as i know, in the new testament
so didn't jesus use to use long hair?

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Long hair, hair down to the waistline? Short hair, down to the shoulders?

lambofgod43985889 said:

you just make me laugh, personally, don't intend to humiliate you

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Vaya hombre a quien crees que estés adorando? Al Diós todopoderoso ne le interesa el largo de tu cabello.

lambofgod43985889 said:

this is what apostle paul says, as far as i know, in the new testament
so didn't jesus use to use long hair?

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I googled "first century Roman art" and looked at hair styles. There is some evidence for men having shorter hair than women, although I did not see much shoulder length hair anywhere. I think Paul may have been conforming to what was an acceptable standard of appearance in areas where he preached.

Yeah, it's in there...and it ain't cultural.

The Roman men wore their hair short, and Paul was preaching to the Gentiles. This wasn’t a commandment for all time.

Why does it seem like everyone assumes Jesus had long hair? The Bible does not describe his hair length, color, or style, but every picture of him as an adult shows a man with long brown hair.

For me when I read the books that the sweet sweet Holy Spirit through Paul wrote.. I never read this saw this take this as some "command" Paul said. .. unlike him. And this "hair" talk.. you know.. I only get it from man. I never have read the word and once came away with.. I as a man must have short hair.

Were talking reading about a totally different time. Where woman wore something over there head when going to Church (Corinthian). Seems at that time the women that didnt ware it... were pagans or working street women? And if the woman came to Church with out .. she was dishonoring her husband. Do women think like that at ALL today? No..

Some are putting something in the word that is not there. This was not about long vs short hair. The times are SO different now. Shall we talk about how they USE to dress going to Church now vs older times? I remember just dancing ..hello DEVIL! I mean.. happy in Church and dancing before the lord.. anyway..were not here to please man.. but Him..

I dont have long hair...I hope to in Heaven. And to this day He has not even spoken a word..

If you want long hair in heaven why not grow it now? Will people get mad at you for not getting haircuts?

Polynesian culture calls for long hair. I don't know the reason for that. It has nothing to do with the Bible, just their heritage. Otherwise, if a man has long hair, I assume it is just personal preference.

lambofgod43985889 said:

this is what apostle paul says, as far as i know, in the new testament
so didn't jesus use to use long hair?

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Some would tell you that if you want to be right with God everybody needs to cut their hair off so that it is never an issue. But that is not what the Bible says. First, you can NOT do anything to save your soul and be thankful it does not matter to God since the sacrifice of His only begotten son was sufficient and the final chapter in eternal salvation. Secondly even if you are only concerned about following God's rules to a T, how long is long short, sorta long, too long, too short, too short short? How many inches? Is it the same if I measure it with a Chinese ruler vs an English ruler? Are you getting my point? There are too many physical differences in the world to try to hold us each to a set of standards we can never achieve. That is, in part, why Jesus died for us. Because we could not fit the mold of universal perfection, ever.

THE W said:

Yeah, it's in there...and it ain't cultural.

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Did you read my post HERE?

I too am not one to simply dismiss this passage as "cultural," because I don't think that's what Paul had in mind when he wrote it under inspiration from God. But the interpretation that this is a "trans-cultural" command here introduces a lot more difficulties (questions we can't answer) in correctly understanding the passage than the "cultural" interpretation does.

God is not in the habit of being imprecise in giving His requirements for holy living... yet the imprecision found in this passage (how long is too long?) makes it impossible to know how to apply. That is, perhaps, the strongest argument for the "cultural" interpretation of the passage.

MyChainsAreGone said:

Did you read my post HERE?

I too am not one to simply dismiss this passage as "cultural," because I don't think that's what Paul had in mind when he wrote it under inspiration from God. But the interpretation that this is a "trans-cultural" command here introduces a lot more difficulties (questions we can't answer) in correctly understanding the passage than the "cultural" interpretation does.

God is not in the habit of being imprecise in giving His requirements for holy living... yet the imprecision found in this passage (how long is too long?) makes it impossible to know how to apply. That is, perhaps, the strongest argument for the "cultural" interpretation of the passage.

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The point is not to offend people with inconsequential personal liberties like hair style when your mission is to create disciples of Jesus.

For instance, when I was active duty and went to Saudi Arabia, we instructed our female troops to keep their heads covered when going off base in Riyadh.

It means nothing to Americans for a woman to cover her head or leave it bare, except as a matter of personal liberty, but as a member of the Air Force, we voluntarily submit out personal liberties to the needs of the Air Force mission.

The point is not to offend people with inconsequential things like hair style when you're there to perform a mission for your commander.

RDKirk said:

The point is not to offend people with inconsequential personal liberties like hair style when your mission is to create disciples of Jesus.

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I would not argue that this is [edit:] NOT a good principle to live by.

But I don't see this principle articulated in Paul's words in 1 Corinthians 11:14-15. How do you arrive at that conclusion from this passage?

lambofgod43985889 said:

maybe, who knows here?

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Only few know, right ? Most of the world does not.
Philosophy and ethics of men is not related to knowing the truth at all,
rather opposed and aimed at keeping people from the truth, right ?

To know the truth, we must always keep seeking the truth from Yahuweh(God) by grace through faith in Yahushua (Jesus), even that all being a gift from Yahuweh,
as He Says In His Word.

lambofgod43985889 said:

sincerely, how looks a man with his hair up to his waist?

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Often such a one "looks" like a woman. Not good.