God forgets sins and does not get mad at us?

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1 Corinthians 13:5 It (love) does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.

The bold text apparently means God does not get mad at us every time we sin and forgets sins we commit. But look at this:

Genesis 1:27 So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.

So why is it that we, created in the image of God, are not made to forget sins ourselves?
 
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1 Corinthians 13:5 It (love) does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.

The bold text apparently means God does not get mad at us every time we sin and forgets sins we commit. But look at this:

Genesis 1:27 So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.

So why is it that we, created in the image of God, are not made to forget sins ourselves?

Remembering keeps me humble and makes me aware of God's mercy!
 
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1 Corinthians 13:5 It (love) does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.

The bold text apparently means God does not get mad at us every time we sin and forgets sins we commit. But look at this:

Genesis 1:27 So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.

So why is it that we, created in the image of God, are not made to forget sins ourselves?

This is because sin distorts, perverts, imprisons, enslaves, oppresses, exploits and kills our good life in God, in other words sins need to be removed before we can forget about them.

For example each time we lie we have as father the devil himself and the offspring that our lives conceive are the wicked who don't serve God or honour Him but rather distorts, perverts, imprisons, enslaves, oppresses, exploits and kills us in our righteous life. How can the Holy Spirit bring us God's peace when sin is still actively bring bad life inside of us?

Now if we confess our sin and bring such times to Christ then we are forgiven! The question is do we have faith in Jesus? For then He will take away the bad life and replace it with His good life. So when that particular sin comes to mind it causes us to thank God for deliverance for He resurrected our lost good life in that part of our lives. This sanctification process ranges in time. Sometimes when the sin is severe for example it can take a long time to be delivered. It usually has to do with the measure of faith God grants us to overcome individual sin. In this way God can and does discipline us.

However if we sin and we don't bring that bad life to Christ to deal with but leave it actively alive within then this bad life will attack us in our good life and make us feel bad, in particularly when the sin comes to mind. Guilt, shame, bitter regret and fear are the bad life that comes our way then.

Some people don't understand that bad life dies when we go to Jesus in our sinful self and have full faith in His grace. Such believers struggle to have faith in their salvation because they suffer from a guilty conscience and are often overcome by the accuser. All these believers often need is encouragement to go to God and confess and commit their bad life to Him. The fight to be delivered from a sin can be hefty for we have to learn to look at Christ and trust His mercy and accept His love and let it transform us before we can be delivered from our sin.

Others leave bad life actively working within their hearts and minds believing they have been forgiven for their sins and don't need to die to sinful self and find new life in The Holy Spirit of God. Such people are deluded to belief that God is love and that therefore everything will be fine.

i reckon it is best to understand that God is love and that therefore our lives have to be rebuild in His loving truth before it becomes eternal. This rebuilding process lasts all our lives down here and is a continues fight with the devil, the world and our own sinful inclinations. We are harvested from our fallen lives down here into our new life in Christ along the way. We are not redeemed in our bad life but rather redeemed from our bad life.

So God does not forget about our wilful sins when we have not brought it to Christ for cleansing and renewal either. It is best never to forget this. This is because our image of God has been tarnished by such unforgiven sin. Wilful sin has to die inside of us, and our lives in God needs to be resurrected before we will rule with Christ in such part of our lives.

Colossians 3:5-10
Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry. Because of these, the wrath of God is coming. You used to walk in these ways, in the life you once lived. But now you must also rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips. Do not lie to each other, since you have taken off your old self with its practices and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator.
 
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This is because sin distorts, perverts, imprisons, enslaves, oppresses, exploits and kills our good life in God, in other words sins need to be removed before we can forget about them.

For example each time we lie we have as father the devil himself and the offspring that our lives conceive are the wicked who don't serve God or honour Him but rather distorts, perverts, imprisons, enslaves, oppresses, exploits and kills us in our righteous life. How can the Holy Spirit bring us God's peace when sin is still actively bring bad life inside of us?

Now if we confess our sin and bring such times to Christ then we are forgiven! The question is do we have faith in Jesus? For then He will take away the bad life and replace it with His good life. So when that particular sin comes to mind it causes us to thank God for deliverance for He resurrected our lost good life in that part of our lives. This sanctification process ranges in time. Sometimes when the sin is severe for example it can take a long time to be delivered. It usually has to do with the measure of faith God grants us to overcome individual sin. In this way God can and does discipline us.

However if we sin and we don't bring that bad life to Christ to deal with but leave it actively alive within then this bad life will attack us in our good life and make us feel bad, in particularly when the sin comes to mind. Guilt, shame, bitter regret and fear are the bad life that comes our way then.

Some people don't understand that bad life dies when we go to Jesus in our sinful self and have full faith in His grace. Such believers struggle to have faith in their salvation because they suffer from a guilty conscience and are often overcome by the accuser. All these believers often need is encouragement to go to God and confess and commit their bad life to Him. The fight to be delivered from a sin can be hefty for we have to learn to look at Christ and trust His mercy and accept His love and let it transform us before we can be delivered from our sin.

Others leave bad life actively working within their hearts and minds believing they have been forgiven for their sins and don't need to die to sinful self and find new life in The Holy Spirit of God. Such people are deluded to belief that God is love and that therefore everything will be fine.

i reckon it is best to understand that God is love and that therefore our lives have to be rebuild in His loving truth before it becomes eternal. This rebuilding process lasts all our lives down here and is a continues fight with the devil, the world and our own sinful inclinations. We are harvested from our fallen lives down here into our new life in Christ along the way. We are not redeemed in our bad life but rather redeemed from our bad life.

So God does not forget about our wilful sins when we have not brought it to Christ for cleansing and renewal either. It is best never to forget this. This is because our image of God has been tarnished by such unforgiven sin. Wilful sin has to die inside of us, and our lives in God needs to be resurrected before we will rule with Christ in such part of our lives.

Colossians 3:5-10
Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry. Because of these, the wrath of God is coming. You used to walk in these ways, in the life you once lived. But now you must also rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips. Do not lie to each other, since you have taken off your old self with its practices and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator.

yes i agree with this. But the punishment for the christian isn't eternal suffering but perhaps disease or something akin to a virtual prison here on earth while they are still alive.
 
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1 Corinthians 13:5 It (love) does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.

The bold text apparently means God does not get mad at us every time we sin and forgets sins we commit. But look at this:

Genesis 1:27 So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.

So why is it that we, created in the image of God, are not made to forget sins ourselves?

God doesn't forget our sin in the sense that He cannot recall them or they cease to exist in His memory. He doesn't keep a record of it, or in other words He doesn't hold it against us.

Think of an argument you've had where the other person brings up things you've said in the past. Things that you regret, but that you've already apologized for. It's happened to all of us, and it is frustrating. This is saying, God doesn't and won't do that.

If we are made in His image we have the capacity to do the same for others, and ourselves.
 
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yes i agree with this. But the punishment for the christian isn't eternal suffering but perhaps disease or something akin to a virtual prison here on earth while they are still alive.
Wait. Are you saying disease is a punishment for sin?
 
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Wait. Are you saying disease is a punishment for sin?

Whats worse eternal suffering or temporal pain? Life is extremely complex. There are too many simple christians out there.

Proverbs chapter 1
The book of proverbs also says "how long will you simple love your simplicity"

On a separate note a persons value at any given point in time is comprised of 100s of variables
and each variable in the equation is weighted differently. Each variable would take a tremendous about of
investigating to ascertain the value of that variable. I believe this notion is absolutely necessary for
any forum topic unless that forum topic is what is the best flavor of ice cream.
 
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Whats worse eternal suffering or temporal pain? Life is extremely complex. There are too many simple christians out there.

Proverbs chapter 1
The book of proverbs also says "how long will you simple love your simplicity"
That's not an answer. I'm trying to make sure I'm not misunderstanding. Are you saying disease is a punishment for sin?
 
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That's not an answer. I'm trying to make sure I'm not misunderstanding. Are you saying disease is a punishment for sin?

is eternal suffering a punishment for sin? I answered your question now you answer mine.
 
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why not? In some cases.
1000% NO!!!!

First, the punishment for sin is death. Jesus paid that price.

Second, Jesus himself clearly addressed this when He was asked, who sinned, this man or his parents.

Third, this is extremely dangerous. Just tonight I counseled a sweet, sweet young woman who loves the Lord with everything in her. A while back someone said something similar to her about an injury she sustained that was 100% a fluke accident. It tore her apart. Months later she is still in tears about it, still struggling to feel as connected to God as she once did. Garbage like this does nothing but HARM and draws people away from God.
 
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1 Corinthians 13:5 It (love) does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
The bold text apparently means God does not get mad at us every time we sin and forgets sins we commit.
You could hardly be further from the truth.
This isn't a description of God, but an exhortation for us.
We are to forgive and forget others who sin against us.
Paul is describing the attributes of charity in 1 Cor 13.

But look at this:
Genesis 1:27 So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.
So why is i t that we, created in the image of God, are not made to forget sins ourselves?
The "new creature", the reborn man, IS made to forget sins done against them, because they have charity !

God will "forget" your sins if you quit committing sin and start to serve Him instead of sin.
Jesus says those who commit sin are servants of sin. (John 8:34)
He also says "no man can serve two masters." (Matt 7:24)
So chose who you will serve.
 
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You could hardly be further from the truth.
This isn't a description of God, but an exhortation for us.
We are to forgive and forget others who sin against us.
Paul is describing the attributes of charity in 1 Cor 13.


The "new creature", the reborn man, IS made to forget sins done against them, because they have charity !

God will "forget" your sins if you quit committing sin and start to serve Him instead of sin.
Jesus says those who commit sin are servants of sin. (John 8:34)
He also says "no man can serve two masters." (Matt 7:24)
So chose who you will serve.

I agree with this but the good news is you can't lose your salvation. You are saved from suffering in hell for all eternity.
 
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On a separate note a persons value at any given point in time is comprised of 100s of variables
and each variable in the equation is weighted differently. Each variable would take a tremendous about of
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any forum topic unless that forum topic is what is the best flavor of ice cream.
 
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People don't suffer because of sin, they suffer because the reject the One that can atone for their sin. Not because it is a punishment, but because they chose to reject Him

Rejecting God is the original; sin that created all other sins. If choosing to reject God is not a sin no other sins would exist.
 
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Salvation is NOT 100% free. God gave you the key, but you have to unlock the door.

See one of the many NOSAS/OSAS threads. I disagree. Jesus paid the price so that we could live life more abundantly. Many OSAS christians still suffer tremendously regardless of their theological beliefs.
 
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