CNN Contributor: ‘When a Woman Is Pregnant, That Is Not a Human Being inside of Her’

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No doctor would amputate a functioning ear if asked even though its part of my body, no doctor would do it. So doctors should still say no to aborting viable babies, when the mothers life is not at risk. The 'this is part of my body' argument fails. If someone self harms by cutting themselves they can be put in care and sharp objects kept from them. The right to do what one wants with one's body is not an absolute right.
 
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You shall not worship the Lord your God in that way, for every abominable thing that the Lord hates they have done for their gods, for they even burn their sons and their daughters in the fire to their gods.
 
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What IS "it" then, a "tumor"?

Exactly.

Things like saying humans are not pregnant with humans happen here all the time in debates, and when one side says something like that, it tells us right off they are desperate, and probably have no real defense. In this case, it makes perfect sense they would be desperate, they're killing babies.

One can only hope that one day they'll see how frail, or even ridiculous their arguments are, and maybe be shaken from their stupor.
 
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Article: CNN Contributor: ‘When a Woman Is Pregnant, That Is Not a Human Being inside of Her’

In a segment yesterday evening on Chris Cuomo’s primetime show, a CNN contributor and former New York City Democratic politician made a particularly unscientific assertion in defense of abortion rights. During a discussion about state-level “heartbeat bills,” which prohibit abortion after a fetal heartbeat can be detected, Christine Quinn claimed, “When a woman is pregnant, that is not a human being inside of her.”

Quinn, who served as the speaker of the New York City Council until 2013, is also a board member for the National Institute for Reproductive Health, a pro-abortion action fund. Her comment last night was, of course, factually and scientifically inaccurate by entirely objective standards.

Basic biology tells us that every pregnant woman is pregnant not with a horse or an acorn or a tumor but with another human being. Inside each pregnant woman is a human being that meets all the scientific criteria to be considered alive. Each embryo or fetus has human DNA, entirely distinct from that of both its mother and its father and, indeed, from every other human being that has ever existed or will ever exist for all of human history. Each of those developing human beings is inside its mother, yes, but not part of its mother. From the moment of conception, that unborn human being has all of the cells that will develop into fully functioning organs, into its own unique fingerprints, into its own heartbeat and neural tissue.

Birth does not magically confer humanity on that being. It was a human being from the start.

Progressives often accuse conservatives and pro-lifers of ignoring biological facts, of being “science deniers.” Abortion-rights advocates like Quinn are the real science deniers. She openly contradicts simple, scientific, biological facts for the sake of furthering her defense of the right to kill unborn human beings in the womb.
Her willingness to lie so blatantly is revealing. Why do pro-choice people blithely spew such ludicrous and unscientific nonsense as this? Because it is far easier to defend removing a “clump of cells” from a woman’s womb — to dismiss abortion as no different than having a tooth pulled — than it is to admit the biological fact that every abortion intentionally kills a living human being, and to defend it on those terms.

Here’s the segment from last night on CNN:




More at link: Abortion & CNN Segment: Christine Quinn Says Unborn Babies Aren’t Human Beings | National Review
By this logic the handicapped are not humans either. If they lack one thing apart from a perfect body how can they be called human? To murder is an act of the flesh. The flesh warreth against the spirit. The desire to kill is so strong in some people they seek to justify it in any way they can. Mussolini is said to have run over a child and commented about it, "It's just one.". So to argue it is not human is to express such a great desire to kill as to seek any justification to do so.
 
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Is it your contention, yes we are all human beings at conception but we are not persons?
Jesus taught that a person is made up of four parts. The heart, mind, spirit and the strength. As soon as a spirit is present it is a person. I consider these to be characteristic of beings that have a spirit. 1) they multiply 2) they grow 3) they feed 4) they breath. A fetus does all of these things. Their cells multiply and can even become two or more people.
 
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Yes and he was being shouted down by Cuomo and Quinn. They were also accusing him of saying things he didn’t say. Par for the course. He did get in some solid points.
Man would have made a decent president. Maybe if we ever come to our senses he could be.
 
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Article: CNN Contributor: ‘When a Woman Is Pregnant, That Is Not a Human Being inside of Her’

In a segment yesterday evening on Chris Cuomo’s primetime show, a CNN contributor and former New York City Democratic politician made a particularly unscientific assertion in defense of abortion rights. During a discussion about state-level “heartbeat bills,” which prohibit abortion after a fetal heartbeat can be detected, Christine Quinn claimed, “When a woman is pregnant, that is not a human being inside of her.”

Quinn, who served as the speaker of the New York City Council until 2013, is also a board member for the National Institute for Reproductive Health, a pro-abortion action fund. Her comment last night was, of course, factually and scientifically inaccurate by entirely objective standards.

Basic biology tells us that every pregnant woman is pregnant not with a horse or an acorn or a tumor but with another human being. Inside each pregnant woman is a human being that meets all the scientific criteria to be considered alive. Each embryo or fetus has human DNA, entirely distinct from that of both its mother and its father and, indeed, from every other human being that has ever existed or will ever exist for all of human history. Each of those developing human beings is inside its mother, yes, but not part of its mother. From the moment of conception, that unborn human being has all of the cells that will develop into fully functioning organs, into its own unique fingerprints, into its own heartbeat and neural tissue.

Birth does not magically confer humanity on that being. It was a human being from the start.

Progressives often accuse conservatives and pro-lifers of ignoring biological facts, of being “science deniers.” Abortion-rights advocates like Quinn are the real science deniers. She openly contradicts simple, scientific, biological facts for the sake of furthering her defense of the right to kill unborn human beings in the womb.
Her willingness to lie so blatantly is revealing. Why do pro-choice people blithely spew such ludicrous and unscientific nonsense as this? Because it is far easier to defend removing a “clump of cells” from a woman’s womb — to dismiss abortion as no different than having a tooth pulled — than it is to admit the biological fact that every abortion intentionally kills a living human being, and to defend it on those terms.

Here’s the segment from last night on CNN:




More at link: Abortion & CNN Segment: Christine Quinn Says Unborn Babies Aren’t Human Beings | National Review
A friend of mine who is a non believer has a friend who wanted to have a baby by herself. She got a sperm donor and had several eggs fertilized. They now can determine the sex of the zygote before they implant the embryo. This shows that the gender is determined and that every cell of the new life is in fact a blue print for the entire person. At conception a life is created that is unique and independent.
 
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As believers, the verse that tells us all we need to know when it comes to the formation of life is this - "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations."- Jeremiah 1:5 NIV.
God states that HE forms us in the womb, (just as he says he knew us before we were even born), how can we for the sake of convenience then halt that formation, and tear it up and destroy it.
That's the bottom line for me. No Christian can genuinely circumvent that clear statement, - God creates us in the womb. Destroying that should make us tremble with fear.
 
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