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It’s been months, but one evening I was eating dinner. I was having steak. When I got down to two bites left I dropped my fork as this immense wave of sorrow hit me. I suddenly felt so very awful for sitting there eating sirloin while other people were literally starving. The feeling didn’t last very long but when it ended it was like “what just happened to me?” I’d never experienced something like that before.
Along with that experience were some others that were scattered. All pertaining to food. One evening I was cooking chilli and I was opening a can of corn to put it. When I poured the can it was as though I could audibly hear the sound of corn husks being shucked and the thought hit me that someone grew that corn so that I could have it. Someone put in a lot of tone and hard work so that I could have the freedom of merely opening a can. It was as though someone whispered that to me even though I heard no words. Similarly to that, I saw a plant outside one day and could hear the sound of a shovel digging into dirt. The thought came to me of how we as people have so much we can plant and grow for food as well as merely for enjoyment.
There are other experiences but I can’t recall. But all pertaining to food and/or growing things. They were scattered, even months apart but all started after the time I was eating steak and felt that terrible sorrow.
I think perhaps it is all God’s conviction for me to be less selfish, gluttonous, etc. But I know the enemy can be deceiving. He may have wanted me to feel guilty when I wasn’t even doing anything wrong.

Thoughts? Conviction or condemnation?
 
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I wasn’t sure exactly where to post this. Admins, please move if it doesn’t belong here.

It’s been months, but one evening I was eating dinner. I was having steak. When I got down to two bites left I dropped my fork as this immense wave of sorrow hit me. I suddenly felt so very awful for sitting there eating sirloin while other people were literally starving. The feeling didn’t last very long but when it ended it was like “what just happened to me?” I’d never experienced something like that before.
Along with that experience were some others that were scattered. All pertaining to food. One evening I was cooking chilli and I was opening a can of corn to put it. When I poured the can it was as though I could audibly hear the sound of corn husks being shucked and the thought hit me that someone grew that corn so that I could have it. Someone put in a lot of tone and hard work so that I could have the freedom of merely opening a can. It was as though someone whispered that to me even though I heard no words. Similarly to that, I saw a plant outside one day and could hear the sound of a shovel digging into dirt. The thought came to me of how we as people have so much we can plant and grow for food as well as merely for enjoyment.
There are other experiences but I can’t recall. But all pertaining to food and/or growing things. They were scattered, even months apart but all started after the time I was eating steak and felt that terrible sorrow.
I think perhaps it is all God’s conviction for me to be less selfish, gluttonous, etc. But I know the enemy can be deceiving. He may have wanted me to feel guilty when I wasn’t even doing anything wrong.

Thoughts? Conviction or condemnation?

There is a movement right now to expose the attitude of people towards the homeless population. They do not eat steaks. Maybe the Holy Spirit is making you aware of a truth that needs attention.
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I wasn’t sure exactly where to post this. Admins, please move if it doesn’t belong here.

It’s been months, but one evening I was eating dinner. I was having steak. When I got down to two bites left I dropped my fork as this immense wave of sorrow hit me. I suddenly felt so very awful for sitting there eating sirloin while other people were literally starving. The feeling didn’t last very long but when it ended it was like “what just happened to me?” I’d never experienced something like that before.
Along with that experience were some others that were scattered. All pertaining to food. One evening I was cooking chilli and I was opening a can of corn to put it. When I poured the can it was as though I could audibly hear the sound of corn husks being shucked and the thought hit me that someone grew that corn so that I could have it. Someone put in a lot of tone and hard work so that I could have the freedom of merely opening a can. It was as though someone whispered that to me even though I heard no words. Similarly to that, I saw a plant outside one day and could hear the sound of a shovel digging into dirt. The thought came to me of how we as people have so much we can plant and grow for food as well as merely for enjoyment.
There are other experiences but I can’t recall. But all pertaining to food and/or growing things. They were scattered, even months apart but all started after the time I was eating steak and felt that terrible sorrow.
I think perhaps it is all God’s conviction for me to be less selfish, gluttonous, etc. But I know the enemy can be deceiving. He may have wanted me to feel guilty when I wasn’t even doing anything wrong.

Thoughts? Conviction or condemnation?

OCD comes to mind. It is not wrong to enjoy a lovely meal and to thank God for it, and ALL of His provisions for us. i give to the homeless, and organizations all the time that helps the starving overseas, and here as well, those needing water wells overseas, etc. And i give to those who i come across who are struggling, homeless, in dire straits, etc. God does not "torture" us with false guilt or condemnations. It's not of God. What is from God is a thankful and grateful heart for His provision for us. In that regard, we are full of His joy and consequently will surely bless others with that joy, as He works through us to be that blessing.
 
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It sounds like you're being called to do something for the LORD. If it's causing you sorrow see what you can do to change it. Feed the homeless, see if you can work with local grocery stores to donate the food they throw a way, maybe start a food drive. Keep us updated, I'm interested to see how it goes.
 
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I wasn’t sure exactly where to post this. Admins, please move if it doesn’t belong here.

It’s been months, but one evening I was eating dinner. I was having steak. When I got down to two bites left I dropped my fork as this immense wave of sorrow hit me. I suddenly felt so very awful for sitting there eating sirloin while other people were literally starving. The feeling didn’t last very long but when it ended it was like “what just happened to me?” I’d never experienced something like that before.
Along with that experience were some others that were scattered. All pertaining to food. One evening I was cooking chilli and I was opening a can of corn to put it. When I poured the can it was as though I could audibly hear the sound of corn husks being shucked and the thought hit me that someone grew that corn so that I could have it. Someone put in a lot of tone and hard work so that I could have the freedom of merely opening a can. It was as though someone whispered that to me even though I heard no words. Similarly to that, I saw a plant outside one day and could hear the sound of a shovel digging into dirt. The thought came to me of how we as people have so much we can plant and grow for food as well as merely for enjoyment.
There are other experiences but I can’t recall. But all pertaining to food and/or growing things. They were scattered, even months apart but all started after the time I was eating steak and felt that terrible sorrow.
I think perhaps it is all God’s conviction for me to be less selfish, gluttonous, etc. But I know the enemy can be deceiving. He may have wanted me to feel guilty when I wasn’t even doing anything wrong.

Thoughts? Conviction or condemnation?

Blessings in Christ Jesus! The sorrow you felt was His, because of the way man has become. This is a good thing, for it shows that you are growing, like the plant that was first planted.Thankfulness leads to many Blessings, perhaps that is what is being revealed.
 
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I strongly suspect that you have been targeted for demonic harassment and deception. Aside from sins such as gluttony, God is not going to give you sorrow over food. If God wants to move your heart, he will provide a positive direction for you to pursue, such as starting up a food pantry or something.
 
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I wasn’t sure exactly where to post this. Admins, please move if it doesn’t belong here.

It’s been months, but one evening I was eating dinner. I was having steak. When I got down to two bites left I dropped my fork as this immense wave of sorrow hit me. I suddenly felt so very awful for sitting there eating sirloin while other people were literally starving. The feeling didn’t last very long but when it ended it was like “what just happened to me?” I’d never experienced something like that before.
Along with that experience were some others that were scattered. All pertaining to food. One evening I was cooking chilli and I was opening a can of corn to put it. When I poured the can it was as though I could audibly hear the sound of corn husks being shucked and the thought hit me that someone grew that corn so that I could have it. Someone put in a lot of tone and hard work so that I could have the freedom of merely opening a can. It was as though someone whispered that to me even though I heard no words. Similarly to that, I saw a plant outside one day and could hear the sound of a shovel digging into dirt. The thought came to me of how we as people have so much we can plant and grow for food as well as merely for enjoyment.
There are other experiences but I can’t recall. But all pertaining to food and/or growing things. They were scattered, even months apart but all started after the time I was eating steak and felt that terrible sorrow.
I think perhaps it is all God’s conviction for me to be less selfish, gluttonous, etc. But I know the enemy can be deceiving. He may have wanted me to feel guilty when I wasn’t even doing anything wrong.

Thoughts? Conviction or condemnation?
Conviction in my opinion but you’re best to seek God directly on this. Ask him why you are experiencing these things. Ultimately, only God can answer your question, not us.
 
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I wasn’t sure exactly where to post this. Admins, please move if it doesn’t belong here.

It’s been months, but one evening I was eating dinner. I was having steak. When I got down to two bites left I dropped my fork as this immense wave of sorrow hit me. I suddenly felt so very awful for sitting there eating sirloin while other people were literally starving. The feeling didn’t last very long but when it ended it was like “what just happened to me?” I’d never experienced something like that before.
Along with that experience were some others that were scattered. All pertaining to food. One evening I was cooking chilli and I was opening a can of corn to put it. When I poured the can it was as though I could audibly hear the sound of corn husks being shucked and the thought hit me that someone grew that corn so that I could have it. Someone put in a lot of tone and hard work so that I could have the freedom of merely opening a can. It was as though someone whispered that to me even though I heard no words. Similarly to that, I saw a plant outside one day and could hear the sound of a shovel digging into dirt. The thought came to me of how we as people have so much we can plant and grow for food as well as merely for enjoyment.
There are other experiences but I can’t recall. But all pertaining to food and/or growing things. They were scattered, even months apart but all started after the time I was eating steak and felt that terrible sorrow.
I think perhaps it is all God’s conviction for me to be less selfish, gluttonous, etc. But I know the enemy can be deceiving. He may have wanted me to feel guilty when I wasn’t even doing anything wrong.

Thoughts? Conviction or condemnation?

Conviction by the Holy Spirit always draws us TO Jesus. Condemnation by the enemy always draws us AWAY from Jesus.

Hope that helps :)
 
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Perhaps God is calling you to work with the poor?

I agree, though, with Brinny. There is nothing inherently sinful about enjoying good food, so long as we take care of ourselves and don't over-indulge. So likely this has nothing to do with *what* you're eating.
 
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I've experienced similar things. I would test such experiences by their fruit. In my case I became more mindful of the chain of people working our food supply. These are real people with real dreams, and often with hard lives. I think of those who don't have as much as we do, and particularly the suffering church. It keeps me humble, and praying for others, and thankful for what I do have.

This reminds me of the case of Nehemiah. When he received distressing news he fasted and prayed, and then went into action. He ended up doing an incredible service to his people.

If these feelings lead you to greater awareness and intercession for others, greater thankfulness to the Lord, and greater positive service to the Kingdom of God, then they are a good thing. But if they degenerate into a morbid guilt and condemnation, with you feeling more distant to God, then something is wrong.
 
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I wasn’t sure exactly where to post this. Admins, please move if it doesn’t belong here.

It’s been months, but one evening I was eating dinner. I was having steak. When I got down to two bites left I dropped my fork as this immense wave of sorrow hit me. I suddenly felt so very awful for sitting there eating sirloin while other people were literally starving. The feeling didn’t last very long but when it ended it was like “what just happened to me?” I’d never experienced something like that before.
Along with that experience were some others that were scattered. All pertaining to food. One evening I was cooking chilli and I was opening a can of corn to put it. When I poured the can it was as though I could audibly hear the sound of corn husks being shucked and the thought hit me that someone grew that corn so that I could have it. Someone put in a lot of tone and hard work so that I could have the freedom of merely opening a can. It was as though someone whispered that to me even though I heard no words. Similarly to that, I saw a plant outside one day and could hear the sound of a shovel digging into dirt. The thought came to me of how we as people have so much we can plant and grow for food as well as merely for enjoyment.
There are other experiences but I can’t recall. But all pertaining to food and/or growing things. They were scattered, even months apart but all started after the time I was eating steak and felt that terrible sorrow.
I think perhaps it is all God’s conviction for me to be less selfish, gluttonous, etc. But I know the enemy can be deceiving. He may have wanted me to feel guilty when I wasn’t even doing anything wrong.

Thoughts? Conviction or condemnation?

From a particle standpoint, we all can't be farmers, butchers or work in a cannery. You perform occupational tasks to the betterment of society based on the job you do. I'd been in the military and I've worked with developmentally disabled adults. Not everyone is cut out for all manner of work. Nor is it practical to feel guilty over thinking we should do all this independently. You have your role to play just as the cattle rancher and cannery worker have theirs. There's nothing wrong with either.

If you feel like you want to try out volunteering in a food pantry or a soup kitchen, knock yourself out. If you're not cut out for that - that's OK too. I don't do soup kitchens. I build Habitat for Humanity houses instead. We all have our gifts. Don't feel bad or ashamed of yours.
 
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OCD comes to mind. It is not wrong to enjoy a lovely meal and to thank God for it, and ALL of His provisions for us. i give to the homeless, and organizations all the time that helps the starving overseas, and here as well, those needing water wells overseas, etc. And i give to those who i come across who are struggling, homeless, in dire straits, etc. God does not "torture" us with false guilt or condemnations. It's not of God. What is from God is a thankful and grateful heart for His provision for us. In that regard, we are full of His joy and consequently will surely bless others with that joy, as He works through us to be that blessing.
Interesting that you should say OCD. What makes it sound like OCD? It is possible I could have a mild form since my father does.
 
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I wasn’t sure exactly where to post this. Admins, please move if it doesn’t belong here.

It’s been months, but one evening I was eating dinner. I was having steak. When I got down to two bites left I dropped my fork as this immense wave of sorrow hit me. I suddenly felt so very awful for sitting there eating sirloin while other people were literally starving. The feeling didn’t last very long but when it ended it was like “what just happened to me?” I’d never experienced something like that before.
Along with that experience were some others that were scattered. All pertaining to food. One evening I was cooking chilli and I was opening a can of corn to put it. When I poured the can it was as though I could audibly hear the sound of corn husks being shucked and the thought hit me that someone grew that corn so that I could have it. Someone put in a lot of tone and hard work so that I could have the freedom of merely opening a can. It was as though someone whispered that to me even though I heard no words. Similarly to that, I saw a plant outside one day and could hear the sound of a shovel digging into dirt. The thought came to me of how we as people have so much we can plant and grow for food as well as merely for enjoyment.
There are other experiences but I can’t recall. But all pertaining to food and/or growing things. They were scattered, even months apart but all started after the time I was eating steak and felt that terrible sorrow.
I think perhaps it is all God’s conviction for me to be less selfish, gluttonous, etc. But I know the enemy can be deceiving. He may have wanted me to feel guilty when I wasn’t even doing anything wrong.

Thoughts? Conviction or condemnation?
Condemnation is where a person is made to feel guilty, with no hope of resolution or forgiveness. We can condemn ourselves through doing something that we think could be wrong (but not necessarily wrong in the Bible) or selfish, and this can lead to misery and depression, and a fear of the future and what will happen to us at the judgment.

Conviction is quite different. It is the sense, sometimes intense, that we are doing wrong, especially when we see the wrongness of what we are doing in the Bible. But along with the conviction, there is the way to forgiveness and a change of heart toward obedience through Christ.

Condemnation can cause a person to try and please God through a set of rules, if broken, can intensify the feelings of condemnation. Conviction leads a person to Christ to confess the sin, receive forgiveness and cleansing, and gives guidance on how to walk in ways that don't being further conviction in the future.

Any thought, impression, or voice that causes feelings of guilt, condemnation, or depression, is not the Holy Spirit, but a lying spirit dropping a condemnation bomb on you. It can give a sense that all is lost because God is angry at you and will punish you for your selfishness.

Conviction, if you have actually sinned, will lead you to 1 John 1:9 so that you can go boldly to God's throne of grace to find mercy and grace to help in your time of need.
 
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Interesting that you should say OCD. What makes it sound like OCD? It is possible I could have a mild form since my father does.

Or maybe God is giving you a supernatural heart for these people. God told Hosea to marry a prostitute; so he could completely understand and feel God's broken heart when it came to his people committing spiritual adultery on Him.

You will know real quick if it is OCD or God putting something in your heart; does it drive you crazy; or does it drive you to a purpose.
 
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Interesting that you should say OCD. What makes it sound like OCD? It is possible I could have a mild form since my father does.

Obsessing over something one has no control over and condemnation (as Oscarr described in post #13).
 
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I wasn’t sure exactly where to post this. Admins, please move if it doesn’t belong here.

It’s been months, but one evening I was eating dinner. I was having steak. When I got down to two bites left I dropped my fork as this immense wave of sorrow hit me. I suddenly felt so very awful for sitting there eating sirloin while other people were literally starving. The feeling didn’t last very long but when it ended it was like “what just happened to me?” I’d never experienced something like that before.
Along with that experience were some others that were scattered. All pertaining to food. One evening I was cooking chilli and I was opening a can of corn to put it. When I poured the can it was as though I could audibly hear the sound of corn husks being shucked and the thought hit me that someone grew that corn so that I could have it. Someone put in a lot of tone and hard work so that I could have the freedom of merely opening a can. It was as though someone whispered that to me even though I heard no words. Similarly to that, I saw a plant outside one day and could hear the sound of a shovel digging into dirt. The thought came to me of how we as people have so much we can plant and grow for food as well as merely for enjoyment.
There are other experiences but I can’t recall. But all pertaining to food and/or growing things. They were scattered, even months apart but all started after the time I was eating steak and felt that terrible sorrow.
I think perhaps it is all God’s conviction for me to be less selfish, gluttonous, etc. But I know the enemy can be deceiving. He may have wanted me to feel guilty when I wasn’t even doing anything wrong.

Thoughts? Conviction or condemnation?

I see your situation differently, it allows yourself to understand how fortunate you are in your current life whereas they are those who don't even have what you have. God bless your family with abundance and to remain you not to be wasteful but rather thankful. In the midst of it, you will appreciate the effort of a meal provided to you come from labour effort of others and with that in mind, you will never stop by giving back to the community which you are forever thankful that God wanted you to show your love and kindness to the less fortunate. I will said to God, sorry, I am wasteful when I really cannot finish my meal because being wasteful is indeed not a good habit, thus, I always try to finish my provided food diligently and will gladness because at least I don't have to starve
 
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