The Space Programme?

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We can see from our back yard when rockets take off. I see so much money just flying away. Central Florida has a major homeless problem. Hmmmm... where could money come from to help??

If we cut the space program the money would merely go to tax write-offs for oil companies and other millionaries... not to homeless people.
 
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Hey, if we did get to an inhabited planet out there somewhere in space, would they build a big wall to keep us out seeing that we would be illegal immigrants?
 
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What the money should have been spent on is no longer important. What is important is that we cannot now avoid extinction, it is too late.
The Second Coming of Christ will sort all that out!
 
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It's simplistic to lay the blame on science for those things. Science is merely a method, not an ideology that necessarily determines values.
Science is a form of sorcery.

We will understand life and the universe and then exert control over life and the universe.

Unfortunately we sealed our demise through the tools that scientific research gave us.

A million species are now directly facing extinction through our exploits, the current findings are shocking and disturbing. The clock is ticking and no one can do anything about it.
 
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Hey, if we did get to an inhabited planet out there somewhere in space, would they build a big wall to keep us out seeing that we would be illegal immigrants?
Science is a form of sorcery.

We will understand life and the universe and then exert control over life and the universe.

Unfortunately we sealed our demise through the tools that scientific research gave us.

A million species are now directly facing extinction through our exploits, the current findings are shocking and disturbing. The clock is ticking and no one can do anything about it.

That's not the fault of science, that's the fault of people who don't take science seriously.
 
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That's not the fault of science, that's the fault of people who don't take science seriously.
Science is an ideology just like all the other ideologies in the world. All ideas that men have are useless ideologies.

A thousand generations have already past and any ideas that someone had made not a whisker of difference to their fate.

We are temporary inhabitants on this planet, here today and gone tomorrow.
 
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Science is an ideology just like all the other ideologies in the world. All ideas that men have are useless ideologies.

A thousand generations have already past and any ideas that someone had made not a whisker of difference to their fate.

We are temporary inhabitants on this planet, here today and gone tomorrow.
I support the science that the 18th and 19th Century scientists practiced, because they believed in God and their science was to find out more about His creation.
 
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I support the science that the 18th and 19th Century scientists practiced, because they believed in God and their science was to find out more about His creation.
Where are those scientists now?

What possible use was their knowledge?

Much ado about nothing.
 
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I support the science that the 18th and 19th Century scientists practiced, because they believed in God and their science was to find out more about His creation.
So you are in favour of the phlogiston theory and you believe Charles Darwin to be mistaken. Interesting, even quaint, but hardly relevant to serious scientific endeavours today.
 
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So you are in favour of the phlogiston theory and you believe Charles Darwin to be mistaken. Interesting, even quaint, but hardly relevant to serious scientific endeavours today.
Charles Darwin is reputed to have refuted his theory of evolution on his death bed and referred to it as "the unborn ideas of a young man".
 
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Charles Darwin is reputed to have refuted his theory of evolution on his death bed and referred to it as "the unborn ideas of a young man".
Nonsense. A frequently repeated nonsense. But feel free to provide a reference for this. Otherwise it remains an unsubstantiated claim and can be laughed at if there is nothing worth watching on TV.

Plus, and I am astounded you do not understand this, had Charles Darwin written a forty page document decalring his life work was an abomination and had it witnessed by the Queen, the Archbishop of Canterbury, the Pope and the entire English asristocracy, it would not have altered by one iota the theory of evolution. Why? Because the theory of evolution is based not on what people say, but what the evidence says. And the evidence speaks with a loud, resonant, confident voice.
 
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Charles Darwin is reputed to have refuted his theory of evolution on his death bed and referred to it as "the unborn ideas of a young man".
That is an often repeated falsehood that even creationists recognise as such.

"It therefore appears that Darwin did not recant, and it is a pity that to this day the Lady Hope story occasionally appears in tracts published and given out by well-meaning people."

From here: Did Charles Darwin recant? - creation.com
 
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That is an often repeated falsehood that even creationists recognise as such.

"It therefore appears that Darwin did not recant, and it is a pity that to this day the Lady Hope story occasionally appears in tracts published and given out by well-meaning people."

From here: Did Charles Darwin recant? - creation.com
Some say he did, and other say he didn't. But no one can prove either way, so the jury is still out, and because he is now dead and any witnesses have passed on too, the jury will never come to a reliable verdict.
 
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Some say he did, and other say he didn't. But no one can prove either way, so the jury is still out, and because he is now dead and any witnesses have passed on too, the jury will never come to a reliable verdict.
Some say he could fly and other say he couldn't. But no one can prove either way, so the jury is still out, and because he is now dead and any witnesses have passed on too, the jury will never come to a reliable verdict.

But what is the reasonable thing to believe in this case?
 
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