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Hi everyone

So I have been a faithful giver for years now (tithe, sponsorship, random giving) but things are different now. My wife and I currently do not live in our own home (we don’t make a lot of money). My thought is to stop giving to help out with us being able to afford our own place. I feel kind of bad about it but what else am I supposed to do ya know? Any suggestions or thoughts? :groupray:
 

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Hi everyone

So I have been a faithful giver for years now (tithe, sponsorship, random giving) but things are different now. My wife and I currently do not live in our own home (we don’t make a lot of money). My thought is to stop giving to help out with us being able to afford our own place. I feel kind of bad about it but what else am I supposed to do ya know? Any suggestions or thoughts? :groupray:
I would say give, and save. Make a budget that allows you to do both, and stick to it. If you're giving more than 10%, you may be able to cut back on how much you give.
 
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I would say give, and save. Make a budget that allows you to do both, and stick to it. If you're giving more than 10%, you may be able to cut back on how much you give.

Honestly that’s what we’ve been doing and it isn’t working out.
 
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Honestly that’s what we’ve been doing and it isn’t working out.
OK, I'm assuming you mean that you cannot give 10% of what you are making. What about 9%? 8%? What percent could you give, and have it work out?
 
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Hi everyone

So I have been a faithful giver for years now (tithe, sponsorship, random giving) but things are different now. My wife and I currently do not live in our own home (we don’t make a lot of money). My thought is to stop giving to help out with us being able to afford our own place. I feel kind of bad about it but what else am I supposed to do ya know? Any suggestions or thoughts? :groupray:

So two answers...... FYI... this is my position on life, and how I live. Others will disagree with me, and that is fine.

So you lumped together 'tithe' and 'sponsorship, random giving' and such.

To me, the tithe is extremely different from charitable giving and sponsorship and such.

Malachi 3:8-18
"Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings."

Now to me, I've been robbed before. I've come home, to find my house ransacked, and stuff missing, and stuff that wasn't missing, damaged and destroyed.

So the idea that I would ever be a thief, and a robber, because I did not tithe to the Lord, is absolutely Abhorrent to me.

Therefore, I would tithe. Always tithe. How much do you tithe? I do not really care how much you tithe, but I think you should ALWAYS tithe. Every single pay check, you should be cutting some out and giving it to the Lord G-d in Heaven.

Now once you have tithed, then you have the charitable giving, the sponsorships, and random giving.

So what does the Bible say about that?

1 Timothy 5:8
Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

So my view of giving and charity beyond your tithe to the church.... you should only do this, after you have taken care of your own household.

I would think, having your own home, would be an important aspect of 'your own household'.... and therefore I would work on that, before you go off donating to charity and such.

That's my advice, and that's what I would do.
 
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I make something like 30% of what I used to earn, unfortunately I am not prospering.

I don't know exactly what you are doing, but in the short term perhaps you need a second job. Or you need a better job.

In the long term, perhaps you need to consider moving to a new career, or a new company, or a new company in a new city. Perhaps you need to get outside your comfort zone.

Regardless, the idea that you should reduce your charitable giving, when your income goes down.... yes of course. When I lost my job, I cut off all charitable giving. Now I still tithed off of every single paycheck to the very last check. But charity, that was done and finished, the moment I knew my job was ending.

But I would never cut off tithing to the church. If you think that saving $50 is going to be a good trade at losing G-d's influence and help in your life, I think you are mistaken.

Now that doesn't mean G-d is like a lottery ticket, and if you just pay the cover charge at the door, you'll end up winning big. But 90% of your paycheck + G-d, will always be a larger income than 100% of your paycheck, without G-d.

And for the record, I know people who are in such bad situations that they can't actually give 10% of their income. That's fine. But whatever you determine to give, you should give. If 5%, ok, then 5%. But you should still give that tithe every pay check.

That's my advice. Take it or leave it. Won't hurt my feelings.
 
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