LUKE 19, LUKE 21, LUKE 23, REVELATION JERUSALEM 70AD

I don't believe I have ever seen a harmonization of these 3 chapters of Luke and their relation to the book of Revelation and OT prophecies against 1st century Jerusalem, it's Temple, Sanctuary and Priesthood, so I thought it might be interesting to start a thread on it. It is perhaps the longest discourse against it I could find pertaining to the destruction of 1st century Jerusalem in 70ad and perhaps a 3rd fulfillment on the City in the future?

I put strong's #s besides a lot of the words so others can look up where else they are used.
Here are the 3 chapters:

Strong's Concordance with Hebrew and Greek Lexicon

Luke 19:
39 And some of the Pharisees from the crowd said to Him, “Teacher! rebuke Your disciples.” 40 And answering He said, “I say to you that if these will be silent, the stones will cry out.”

41 And as He nears<1448>, beholding the City,
and He laments<2799> over Her,
42 saying, "That if Thou knew and Thou, even indeed in this day,
the toward peace of Thee,
now yet it was hid<2928> from Thy eyes.
43 That shall be arriving<2240> days upon Thee,
and Thy enemies<2190> shall be casting up a rampart/siege-work<5482> to Thee
and shall be encompassing<4033> Thee,
and pressing<4912> Thee from-every-side<3840>.
44 And shall be leveling<1474> Thee and Thy offspring<5043> in Thee,
and not shall be leaving<863> stone upon stone in Thee,
stead which not Thou knew the season<2540> of the visitation<1984> of Thee".

Luke 21:
20 Whenever yet ye may be seeing the Jerusalem surrounded<2124> by armies<4760>,
then be knowing that come nigh<1448> desolating<2050> of Her
21 Then those in Judea, let them flee to the mountains; and those in her midst, let them depart out; and those in the countries, let them not enter into Her.
22 For these are the Days of Vengeance<1557>, to fulfill all things having been written.
23 But woe! to those having in womb, and nursing in those days.
For there will be Great Distress upon the land and Wrath to this People.
24 And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and will be led captive into all the nations; and Jerusalem will be trodden down by the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

Luke 23:
27 And a great multitude of the people followed<190> Him, and of women, who were wailing<2875> and lamenting<2354> for Him.
28 And having turned to them, Jesus said, “Daughters of Jerusalem! do not be weeping<2799> for Me,
rather be weeping<2799> for yourselves and for your children.
29 That behold! are coming days in which they shall be declaring, ‘blessed/happy are the barren ones<4723> and the wombs<2836> which not bear, and breasts that never nursed<5142>.’
30 Then they shall be beginning to be saying to say to the mountains, 'Fall upon us!' and to the hills, 'Cover us!'
31 That if in the wet<5200> wood<3586> these they are doing, in the dry<3584> what my be becoming

To be continued....................
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This word for weep is used in only 34 verses. 6 of those in Revelation thus tying Luke's Jerusalem/Temple discourse to Revelation.

Genesis 1:1 (NKJV)
G2799 matches the Greek κλαίω (klaiō), occurs 41 times in 34 verses

Luke 19:
41 And as He nears, beholding the City,
and He weeps<2799> over Her,

The phrase "daughters of Jerusalem" occurs only in this 1 verse outside of SoS

Luke 23:
27 And a great multitude of the people followed<190> Him, and of women, who were wailing and lamenting for Him.
28 And having turned to them, Jesus said, “Daughters of Jerusalem! do not be weeping<2799> for Me,
rather be weeping<2799> for yourselves and for your children.

It is used in 6 verses of Revelation...2 of those concerning the Lamb and Seals,
and the other 4 verses used concerning the destruction of the Great City

The Great City/Harlot/Queen Revelation chapts 17-19

Revelation 18:
9 “The kings of the land who committed fornication and lived luxuriously with her will weep and lament for Her, when they see the smoke of her burning,
11 “And the merchants of the land will weep and mourn over Her, for no one buys their merchandise anymore:
15 “The merchants of these things, who became rich by Her, will stand at a distance for fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,
19 “They threw dust on their heads and cried out, weeping and wailing, and saying, ‘Alas, alas, that great City, in which all who had ships on the sea became rich by her wealth! For in one hour she is made desolate

Luke 19:
42 saying, "That if Thou knew and Thou, even indeed in this day,
the toward peace of Thee, now yet it was hid<2928> from Thy eyes.

Mat 13:35
that it might be fulfilled that was spoken through the prophet, saying, 'I will open in similes my mouth, I will utter things having been hidden from the foundation of the world.'
Luk 18:34
And they none of these things understood, and this saying was hid from them, and they were not knowing the things said.
Jhn 8:59
they took up, therefore, stones that they may cast at him, but Jesus hid himself, and went forth out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
Jhn 19:38
And after these things did Joseph of Arimathea -- being a disciple of Jesus, but concealed, through the fear of the Jews -- ask of Pilate, that he may take away the body of Jesus, and Pilate gave leave; he came, therefore, and took away the body of Jesus,
Col 3:3
for ye did die, and your life hath been hid with the Christ in God;
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Rev 2:17
He who is having an ear -- let him hear what the Spirit saith to the assemblies: To him who is overcoming, I will give to him to eat from the hidden manna, and will give to him a white stone, and upon the stone a new name written, that no one knew except him who is receiving it.
Rev 6:15
and the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich, and the chiefs of thousands, and the mighty, and every servant, and every freeman, hid themselves in the dens, and in the rocks of the mountains, 16 and they say to the mountains and to the rocks, 'Fall upon us, and hide us from the face of Him who is sitting upon the throne, and from the anger of the Lamb,'

Luke 19:
41 And as He nears, beholding the City, and He laments over Her,
42 saying, "That if Thou knew and Thou, even indeed in this day,
the toward peace of Thee, now yet it was hid from Thy eyes.
43 That shall be arriving days upon Thee, and Thy enemies shall be casting up a rampart/siege-work to Thee and shall be encompassing Thee, and pressing Thee from-every-side.
44 And shall be leveling Thee and Thy offspring in Thee,
and not shall be leaving stone upon stone in Thee,
stead which not Thou knew the season of the visitation of Thee".

Strong's Concordance with Hebrew and Greek Lexicon

G2050 used in only 3 verses of the NT:

Matthew 24:15
Whenever then ye may be seeing the abomination of the desolation<2050>.......

Mark 13:14
Whenever yet ye may be seeing see the abomination<946> of the desolation<2050>

Luke 21:
20 Whenever yet ye may be seeing the Jerusalem surrounded<2124> by armies,
then be knowing that come nigh the desolating<2050> of Her
21 Then those in Judea, let them flee to the mountains; and those in her midst, let them depart out; and those in the countries, let them not enter into Her.

Revelation 18:19 And they cast dust upon their heads and cried out, lamenting and mourning, saying "woe! woe! the City, the great, in which are rich all the ones having the ships in the sea out of the preciousness of Her,
that to one hour She was desolated<2049>

G2049 used in only 2 verses outside of Revelation:

Mat 12:25
But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them:
“Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation<2049>, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand.
Luk 11:17
But He, knowing their thoughts, said to them:
“Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation<2049>, and a house divided against a house falls.
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3 times in Revelation

Revelation 17:16 And the ten Horns which thou saw and the Beast, These shall be hating the harlot,
and They shall be making Her desolate<2049> and naked, and the fleshes of Her they shall be eating<5315> and shall be burning<2618> Her in fire.

Revelation 18:
17 In one hour such great wealth has been brought to desolation<2049>!’ “Every sea captain, and all who travel by ship, the sailors, and all who earn their living from the sea, will stand far off.
19 and they cast dust upon their heads, and cried<2896>, lamenting<2799>, weeping and mourning<3996>, saying,
"Woe! woe! the great City! in which are rich all those having ships<4143> in the sea, out of Her preciousness<5094>, for to one hour was She was desolated<2049>.

keras said:

LLoJ, your lengthy posts of scripture written in a practically unreadable fashion, are not suitable in this type of forum. We are not high-faluting scholars here, just practical types, wanting the get to the truths of scripture.
Luke 19:31-44 and Luke 21:20-24, are about the Roman attacks and were fulfilled by 70-135 AD.
But Luke 23:27-31 remains to be fulfilled:
A great number of people followed Jesus on His way to execution, among them many women who mourned and lamented over Him. Jesus turned to them and said: Daughters of Jerusalem, do not weep for Me, weep for yourselves and your children. For the days are coming when people will say: Happy are those who don’t have children to worry about. Because then all will call to the mountains “fall on us” and to the hills “hide us”.
For if these things are done when the wood is green, what will happen when the wood is dry? Reference: REB, NIV.

‘weep for yourselves’, For those in Jerusalem at that time, this warned them about the coming conquest and destruction by the Romans. But it is also a dual prophecy, as then the Christians were told to ‘take to the hills’ and they escaped to Pella, in the Northern Jordan valley. Luke 20:24
‘For if these things are done when the wood is green, what will happen when the wood is dry?’ A Jewish proverb. An English equivalent: ‘You ain’t seen nuthin yet!’ Green wood doesn’t burn well, dry wood does, so Jesus is saying: you can expect a lot worse carnage and violence to come in a later event.
‘fall on us and hide us’, This is paralleled by Revelation 6:15-17 and Isaiah 2:21, both in passages that vividly describe the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath. As Jesus quoted Isaiah 61:1-2a at the commencement of His ministry, what follows in verse 2b is the Day when He will destroy His enemies: those who attack Israel and all the ungodly peoples. Deuteronomy 32:34-35, Psalms 83, Isaiah 2:12-21, Isaiah 5:25, Isaiah 33:10-12, Isaiah 63:1-6, Isaiah 66:15-16, Ezekiel 20:46-47, Joel 1:15, Psalms 97:3-5, Malachi 4:1, Hebrews 10:27

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Yes, most partial Preterists agree that much of the Olivet discourse was fulfilled by the end of the 1st century..............

Matthew 24:6
“Yet ye shall be being about to be hearing battles and hearings of battles, be seeing! be not be being troubled<2360>, for is binding to becoming,
but not as yet the End<5056>
Mark 13:7
“Yet whenever ye should be hearing battles and hearings of battles, be seeing! be not be being troubled for is binding to be becoming,
but not as yet the End<5056>
Luke 21:9
“Yet whenever ye should be hearing battles and tumults<181>, no may be being frightened<4422>, for is binding these to be becoming,
but not immediately the End<5056>

https://www.preteristarchive.com/JewishWars/timeline_military.html

CAST OF CHARACTERS: Roman: Emperor Nero | General Vespasian | General Titus | The Roman Army || Jewish: General / Historian Josephus | Factional Leaders in Jerusalem || Administrators of Roman Judea Targets: Jerusalem | Herod's Temple // Maps of the Roman Invasion // Theological Timeline

CHRONOLOGY IMMEDIATELY SURROUNDING THE WAR

Stage 1: Murder of James the Just, "Opposition High Priest" ; Irrevocable Split: 62
Stage 2: General Revolt in Jerusalem ; Zealot Occupation of Masada: August-September 66
Stage 3: The Campaign of Cestius Gallus and the Defeat of the Twelfth Legion: October-November 66
Stage 4: End of Collaborative Government, Priesthood ; General Flight: November 66 - March 67
Part 6: Vespasian Subdues Northern and Western Palestine: December 66 - December 68
Part 7: Three-way Power Struggle within Jerusalem After Roman Retreat: January 68 - May 70
Part 8: Romans Breach City Walls and Leave Jerusalem Desolate: May 10 - September 10, 70

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