Many Denominations, But Which Is The Right One?

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Like religion, have any of you ever considered or pondered on how the world has so many Christian-like denominations? Even creating an account on this site, I had to scroll through numerous denominations to pick one for myself--- are they all right, or are they all wrong or is there only one that's right?

The question comes down to this; what differentiates us?

In the Matthew 7:13-14, it speaks of how the gate to Heaven is narrow, and only few find it. How does this apply to us? Many denominations, we can't all be right, right?

Let's scroll back and look at the judicial system in the Old Testament. In order for a person's sins to be atoned for, they would have to bring before an animal to the High Priest, lay their hands onto the animal and pass their sins onto the animal, then the animal was killed and the individual was sent scot-free. Now this happened for a while, before it eventually became one animal per family, and then one animal for the entire nation of Israel, in which the High Priest would be the one to lay the sins of Israel onto the animal, before killing it and atoning for the sins of Israel for that period of time. (Book of Leviticus)

But what does this have to do with what I was talking about? Well, let's go to the New Testament. If you take a look at the 4 Gospels very closely, you can see that they all start at the baptism (Matthew begins at Chapter 3), more accurately, they all begin with John The Baptist. Now with God, there are no coincidences, so what does this mean?

See, if you take a look at the genealogy of John The Baptist, he comes from the Aaronic Priesthood (Luke 1:5). Now, the Aaronic Priesthood in the Old Testament, were the only ones who were allowed to carry out the sacrificial atonement. Clearly, these two correlate. See, John The Baptist was not the Messiah, but he was there to prepare the way for the Messiah, which is Jesus Christ.

This is why the baptism of Jesus plays a pivotal role in a born-again believers life, and is the ticket to entering the Kingdom of God;

in John 3:5 it says,
"Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit."

and in 1 John 5:6 it says,
"This is He Who came by (with) water and blood [His baptism and His death], Jesus Christ (the Messiah)—not by (in) the water only, but by (in) the water and the blood. And it is the [Holy] Spirit Who bears witness, because the [Holy] Spirit is the Truth."
Now, this isn't the same baptism one has as a baby. This isn't the same baptism one has by just going into the water. It isn't about that outer body going into the water, but rather a heart matter; 1 Peter 3:21, "And baptism, which is a figure [of their deliverance], does now also save you [from inward questionings and fears], not by the removing of outward body filth [bathing], but by [providing you with] the answer of a good and clear conscience (inward cleanness and peace) before God [because you are demonstrating what you believe to be yours] through the resurrection of Jesus Christ."

See, the baptism of Jesus is important to us believers because it was at His baptism that His ministry began; Matthew 3:13-17, "Then Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to be baptized by John. But John tried to deter him, saying, “I need to be baptized by you, and do you come to me?” Jesus replied, “Let it be so now; it is proper for us to do this to fulfill all righteousness.” Then John consented. As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him. And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”

You see, without Christ's baptism, there would never be a cross. Now why do I say this? Go back to the Old Testament, the sacrificial system. In order for sins to be atoned for, the animal would first need to be brought before a High Priest, who would lay his hands on the animal, and then pass the sins of Israel onto the animal before killing it and sending Israel scot-free. If you take a look in John 1:29, John The Baptist refers to Jesus as "The Lamb of God Who takes away the sins of the world". There's a reason for that; Jesus was the sacrificial atonement that God provided us.

Now, before the animal was killed in the Old Testament, a few things had to be done first. And remember, with God, there are no coincidences. Everything is planned, and pre-ordained. So in order for the Righteousness of God (our sanctification) to take place, the sacrificial atonement needed to be done, and it has to begin somewhere--- Christ's baptism.

Because John the Baptist comes from the Aaronic Priesthood, he had the qualification to pass the sins of the world onto Jesus. What the animals in the Old Testament could do temporarily, Christ did eternally. This laying on of hands at Christ's baptism occurred the same manner it did in the Old Testament. And once it was done, the Holy Spirit came down like a dove to testify, and God was delighted.

This is why for the next 3 years, Christ was hated, hurt, bruised, flocked, mocked etc. Not because of anything He did or didn't do, but because of the multitude of sins that was on Him, even though He knew no sin (2 Corinthians 5:21).

This is also why Christ had to die; because the wages which sin pays, is death (Romans 6:23).

Planned and purposed by God, this is the Way, this is the Truth and this is the Life--- Christ. We cannot come to the cross, without first uniting with Christ at His baptism. His death can never be ours, if we don't know where He even took it. And if His death isn't ours, how can His life be ours?

Now this is the Water (baptism) and Blood (death) that Christ speaks of that gives us that ticket to Heaven. If Christ is The Way, The Truth and The Life that we proclaim He is, then isn't there only 1 Way, 1 Truth, and 1 Life?
 

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Like religion, have any of you ever considered or pondered on how the world has so many Christian-like denominations? Even creating an account on this site, I had to scroll through numerous denominations to pick one for myself--- are they all right, or are they all wrong or is there only one that's right?

The question comes down to this; what differentiates us?

In the Matthew 7:13-14, it speaks of how the gate to Heaven is narrow, and only few find it. How does this apply to us? Many denominations, we can't all be right, right?

Let's scroll back and look at the judicial system in the Old Testament. In order for a person's sins to be atoned for, they would have to bring before an animal to the High Priest, lay their hands onto the animal and pass their sins onto the animal, then the animal was killed and the individual was sent scot-free. Now this happened for a while, before it eventually became one animal per family, and then one animal for the entire nation of Israel, in which the High Priest would be the one to lay the sins of Israel onto the animal, before killing it and atoning for the sins of Israel for that period of time. (Book of Leviticus)

But what does this have to do with what I was talking about? Well, let's go to the New Testament. If you take a look at the 4 Gospels very closely, you can see that they all start at the baptism (Matthew begins at Chapter 3), more accurately, they all begin with John The Baptist. Now with God, there are no coincidences, so what does this mean?

See, if you take a look at the genealogy of John The Baptist, he comes from the Aaronic Priesthood (Luke 1:5). Now, the Aaronic Priesthood in the Old Testament, were the only ones who were allowed to carry out the sacrificial atonement. Clearly, these two correlate. See, John The Baptist was not the Messiah, but he was there to prepare the way for the Messiah, which is Jesus Christ.

This is why the baptism of Jesus plays a pivotal role in a born-again believers life, and is the ticket to entering the Kingdom of God;

in John 3:5 it says,
"Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit."

and in 1 John 5:6 it says,
"This is He Who came by (with) water and blood [His baptism and His death], Jesus Christ (the Messiah)—not by (in) the water only, but by (in) the water and the blood. And it is the [Holy] Spirit Who bears witness, because the [Holy] Spirit is the Truth."
Now, this isn't the same baptism one has as a baby. This isn't the same baptism one has by just going into the water. It isn't about that outer body going into the water, but rather a heart matter; 1 Peter 3:21, "And baptism, which is a figure [of their deliverance], does now also save you [from inward questionings and fears], not by the removing of outward body filth [bathing], but by [providing you with] the answer of a good and clear conscience (inward cleanness and peace) before God [because you are demonstrating what you believe to be yours] through the resurrection of Jesus Christ."

See, the baptism of Jesus is important to us believers because it was at His baptism that His ministry began; Matthew 3:13-17, "Then Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to be baptized by John. But John tried to deter him, saying, “I need to be baptized by you, and do you come to me?” Jesus replied, “Let it be so now; it is proper for us to do this to fulfill all righteousness.” Then John consented. As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him. And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”

You see, without Christ's baptism, there would never be a cross. Now why do I say this? Go back to the Old Testament, the sacrificial system. In order for sins to be atoned for, the animal would first need to be brought before a High Priest, who would lay his hands on the animal, and then pass the sins of Israel onto the animal before killing it and sending Israel scot-free. If you take a look in John 1:29, John The Baptist refers to Jesus as "The Lamb of God Who takes away the sins of the world". There's a reason for that; Jesus was the sacrificial atonement that God provided us.

Now, before the animal was killed in the Old Testament, a few things had to be done first. And remember, with God, there are no coincidences. Everything is planned, and pre-ordained. So in order for the Righteousness of God (our sanctification) to take place, the sacrificial atonement needed to be done, and it has to begin somewhere--- Christ's baptism.

Because John the Baptist comes from the Aaronic Priesthood, he had the qualification to pass the sins of the world onto Jesus. What the animals in the Old Testament could do temporarily, Christ did eternally. This laying on of hands at Christ's baptism occurred the same manner it did in the Old Testament. And once it was done, the Holy Spirit came down like a dove to testify, and God was delighted.

This is why for the next 3 years, Christ was hated, hurt, bruised, flocked, mocked etc. Not because of anything He did or didn't do, but because of the multitude of sins that was on Him, even though He knew no sin (2 Corinthians 5:21).

This is also why Christ had to die; because the wages which sin pays, is death (Romans 6:23).

Planned and purposed by God, this is the Way, this is the Truth and this is the Life--- Christ. We cannot come to the cross, without first uniting with Christ at His baptism. His death can never be ours, if we don't know where He even took it. And if His death isn't ours, how can His life be ours?

Now this is the Water (baptism) and Blood (death) that Christ speaks of that gives us that ticket to Heaven. If Christ is The Way, The Truth and The Life that we proclaim He is, then isn't there only 1 Way, 1 Truth, and 1 Life?
Jesus is the Way. Those that have Him are on the path.

I am not of any denomination, though l fellowship with some.

I am of Christ ....

P.S. Jesus baptizes all who come to Him ... and He seals them, ... and He seats them in heavenly places ...
 
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Like religion, have any of you ever considered or pondered on how the world has so many Christian-like denominations? Even creating an account on this site, I had to scroll through numerous denominations to pick one for myself--- are they all right, or are they all wrong or is there only one that's right?
Skip the denominations. The only real question is Catholic or Orthodox. And they are so close that you won't go wrong. Follow Jesus. What he started is where you ought to be.
 
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The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches. Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks; -Rev 1:20 - Rev 2:1

I believe the congregations of the church are seven, Messianic, Martyr, Orthodox, Catholic, Protestant, Methodist, Charismatic. And that the Christ walks admidst the seven. I see no harm in doing likewise. As far as the right one, well, that depends on the time and geography. Unfortunately no church is perfect.
 
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God has never been too worked up over different groups. In fact he set ancient Israel into 12 tribes with differing land allocations and different functions (like Levi and Judah)

IOW: it does not matter that much which Denomination or faith stream you are part of. What matters is you Loving God with all of your heart soul mind and strength, and loving your neighbor as yourself.
 
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To defend a church or denomination is not defending the truth from God, but an established institution of which you are to be loyal to, like any other institution created by man before and after. Nothing changed even though Jesus taught a better way. Besides, why would God give any one denomination absolute power when He wouldn't even let us keep a common speech?
 
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Everyone, including Catholic and Orthodox got couple details wrong, just like denominations.

Nobody is perfect in interpreting scriptures correctly. NOT even those who claim to be Spirit-filled / guided.

I used to be a Catholic and then became Charismatic and eventually couple Protestant Denominations for 20 years.

No one has got everything perfectly.

If you wish to know the Truth, work hard at it and do your homework. Don't depend on others to do it for you.

1 John 2:27
As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit--just as it has taught you, remain in him.
 
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Skip the denominations. The only real question is Catholic or Orthodox. And they are so close that you won't go wrong. Follow Jesus. What he started is where you ought to be.
And therein lies the reason real unity is still out of grasp. Until Catholics, Orthodox Christians, Protestants, etc can find a way to step back from their differing doctrines just a little and refocus on the things they have in common, perhaps we'd all be better off in the end.

The key is salvation because that's what makes someone even a Christian. I know that between the "Big Three" there are differing views on how a person is saved. Actually, Catholicism and Orthodoxy are not that close if you really study the doctrines regarding salvation. They both see baptism as a part of salvation, but Orthodoxy sees baptism as just one part of the process leading to salvation. The rest includes marriage, serving in the church, anointing by oil, etc. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think Catholicism teaches that things like being married and serving in the church are necessary to be saved. And of course, Protestant churches take a much more symbolic view of these rituals as being an external representation of an inward change, not saving anyone in and of themselves but being the evidence of salvation that has already happened.

How do we explain these differences in interpretation? Did God really intend for the very core of our salvation to be something we'd be confused about?

But because there are these differences in interpretation, what we need to do is look one step beyond salvation itself to how the Word describes the evidence of salvation - the Fruits of the Spirit, bearing good fruit, fellowshipping with other Believers, being in continual repentance and seeking holiness, loving God above the world, chains of sin broken in your life and hearing and obeying Jesus' voice.

So let us look at ourselves and the people in our church bodies. Can we say that as a whole we are mostly showing evidence of salvation? I mean in our private lives, not just in church. Or is their a discontinuity between what we profess and how we live? Have we been baptized, publicly profess our salvation, serve the church, but just as easily turn around and do something that is very obviously not Biblical without apparent remorse? Is this a common thing throughout our church bodies? Then we should seriously re-examine our doctrine of salvation, no matter how risky, because it is not something to take lightly. If there is a lack of evidence of real salvation in those around us, that's serious.
 
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It is important, though, to pick a Christian church closest to your beliefs, and go there to be a blessing to others. Be a follower of Christ and an attendor of church. Follow that which is good, avoid that which is evil.
 
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It is important, though, to pick a Christian church closest to your beliefs, and go there to be a blessing to others. Be a follower of Christ and an attendor of church. Follow that which is good, avoid that which is evil.
I understand your thinking but to me that vaguely sounds like the rhetoric used to indoctrinate us in other worldly institutions of man also, (like at voting time) hence according to the traditional ways of man and not the Kingdom.
 
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And therein lies the reason real unity is still out of grasp. Until Catholics, Orthodox Christians, Protestants, etc can find a way to step back from their differing doctrines just a little and refocus on the things they have in common, perhaps we'd all be better off in the end.
In his book Your People shall be My People, pastor emeritus Don Finto wrote that until the church as a whole reverses the decisions made in the 100s and 200s to exclude Jewish believers in Jesus who wish to remain Jews, the disintegration of unity will continue. That especially affects the Orthodox and Catholic groups as they are the obvious decendents of those who made those decisions.
 
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In his book Your People shall be My People, pastor emeritus Don Finto wrote that until the church as a whole reverses the decisions made in the 100s and 200s to exclude Jewish believers in Jesus who wish to remain Jews, the disintegration of unity will continue. That especially affects the Orthodox and Catholic groups as they are the obvious decendents of those who made those decisions.
Yes, it is wrong to think that those who continue to follow certain Jewish traditions cannot also be followers of Jesus! Some of the most vibrant and devoted Christians I've met were Messianic Jews. So many of those traditions point to Jesus anyway! By acknowledging the value in those things, it furthers our own understanding of God's divine story of salvation and opens our eyes to how He was orchestrating it all from the very beginning.
 
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Skip the denominations. The only real question is Catholic or Orthodox. And they are so close that you won't go wrong. Follow Jesus. What he started is where you ought to be.

I noticed in the same way Elizabeth did even Catholic and Orthodox have various deoniminations, just not as many as Protestant Christians. So no matter what you are, you can't forget doneminations.
 
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I noticed in the same way Elizabeth did even Catholic and Orthodox have various deoniminations, just not as many as Protestant Christians. So no matter what you are, you can't forget doneminations.
There are numerous Catholic Rites but they have the same set of beliefs. Those are not denominations.
 
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What is a Catholic rite?
There are multiple liturgical traditions within the Catholic Church. One example would be the Maronites, who hail from Lebanon and use Aramaic in their worship. There are many other groups using different languages and ways of doing things. All share the same doctrines but they have separate canon law systems. All share the same pope. They are all part of one Church with variety in ways of worship and even to a degree of spiritual temperament.
 
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ALL? So all are catholic but the orthodox are not? Will the latin church ever rejoin what they broke away from?
All of those rites within the Catholic Church are fully Catholic. But the Orthodox, incredibly similar to those various Catholic Eastern Rites, are not Catholic. Some of them would be OK with reuniting with the Catholic Church. Some of them would rather die a thousand deaths than be reunited with the Catholic Church. From the Catholic side, the desire is there to reunite. Will it ever happen? Not soon. The Russian Orthodox Church seems intent on denying even the validity of Catholic baptism, and insisting that Catholics become Russian Orthodox. The Catholic position is that we overcome the schism and become what we are and were over a thousand years ago as one Church with varied Rites and multiple patriarchs. Ain't gonna happen any time in my lifetime even though I pray for it.
 
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