HOW HAVE YOU BEEN PERSONALLY IMPACTED BY TRUMPS POLICIES?

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Trump opposing LGBT rights on the margins, after most of society with an informed opinion has already settled the matter, is just stirring up needless hatred and resentment against people I care about and love. It's even worse because he is merely doing it to score cheap political capital, he has no personal investment in the issue.
 
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No, that’s the point. He did not “flat out” condemn them.

He made a critical comment of the Nazis and White Supremacists, but then walked it back with his “fine people” sop....
He did condemn "flat out" condemn them at 1:50 and 2:46.
 
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Trump opposing LGBT rights on the margins, after most of society with an informed opinion has already settled the matter, is just stirring up needless hatred and resentment against people I care about and love. It's even worse because he is merely doing it to score cheap political capital, he has no personal investment in the issue.
Unless you are LGBT I dont understand how you have been personally affected.
 
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Have you been negatively affected? How have you been affected?
Even though I live in germany...

German Growth Stagnates as Trump Trade War Starts to Bite

Trumps tarrif war has hurt german economy. Worse economy means that I as a copywriter get less and less profitable work because buisnesses don't have the money to invest into advertisements. He also is doing anything in his power to hurt german buisnesses trading with Iran, although the treaty between germany and iran is still in place. He isn't satisfied with having his own country putting an embargo on Iran, he also has to meddle with the trading of the USA's "allies". He's making german buisnesses choose between doing buisness with the USA or Iran. Most, of course, choose the USA, so that's less trade with a good partner, which means less money for german buisnesses, which means less work for me.

I of course can't give you an exact statistic on how many buisnesses would have comissioned me, had the USA done things differently, but I can tell you that I am feeling the difference.
 
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Those guarantees weren't present in earlier versions of the bill. None of the versions ever passed.
American Health Care Act of 2017 - Wikipedia


You do realize that Medicare for all is going to cost $27-32 TRILLION DOLLARS over the course of a decade. Guess who is going to pay for that? YOU!! In YOUR taxes. You pay $600 dollars more in taxes every month. But at least you got your medicate. Sorry Bernie. No thank you.

How Much Will Medicare for All Cost?

As pointed out by someone else, if we can replace private health insurance for $600/mo/person, we're getting a bargain.
 
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He did condemn "flat out" condemn them at 1:50 and 2:46.

...and then walked it back.

Listen to the comments made by the crazies in the following days. They recognised the dog whistle he blew for them...
 
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That is interesting. I was under the impression that the tax cuts were across the board.

I'm sure a lot of people were similarly fooled.

Would you mind telling us how much your tax rate increased?

I would mind very much. Suffice to say that my paycheck was about $75/mo less, and my 2018 refund was about $500/mo less.
 
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You know that is not what I meant. Many of Trump's opposition are using fear tactics to for manipulation. The possibility of losing health coverage due to preexisting conditions is one of them. Yes, you absolutely should be worried because it is a serious issue. However, I personally don't know if that will actually happen.

I believe the concern is that in Trump's unpassed healthcare bill protections for pre-existing conditions were removed. It is not a priority, and not something he plans to protect.
 
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There we have a disagreement. Voting for Bernie would not benefit me or, IMHO anyone in the middle class. If I cannot afford the huge rise in healthcare cost caused by Obama, I. Ertinly will not benefit from the tax increase fought by Bernie.

If you're making less than about $70,000, you likely wouldn't pay much, if anything. And you'd have full healthcare coverage. Which likely saves you money in the long run.

Along with the inevitable rise in the loss of jobs etc.

The other benefit is that if employers aren't on the hook for health insurance, they can spend that money on employees. More jobs or higher pay.

And remember, we have more jobs than employees right now.

No thank you. Bernie is not the answer.

Think about it again.
 
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Now I know you know that the whole "There were good people on both sides" comment was debunked several times to you. You know Trump did not say that Nazis were "good people". In fact, he flat out condemned them in the very same sentence that you are referencing. In regards to your insurance, the ACA rates were going up before Trump because it is built on a failed system. In fact, Republicans said it was going to happen during Obama's second term. But anyone who pointed that fact out were just labled as racist Obama haters. In 2009, my USAA credit card interest rate was only 4%. However, because of Obama's policies (I have the letter to prove it) my rate with up to 11%. Do you have similar documentation stating that your health insurance premium increased as a direct result of Trump's policies?

I don't want to hear it.

Not only did he lie - not misspeak; lie - in 2017 about Nazis being "very fine people" (and yes, he absolutely said what he said and we have it on video), but he lied recently about the rally being "about a statue", which none of the organizers of the Nazi rally said at the time.

If you can't stop yourself from lying and defending Nazis (and their apologists), then you should just disengage. No one - least of all me - cares to hear it.
Ringo
 
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If you support a president who supports racist policies - like...oh, I dunno...caging migrant children, maybe? - then gee whiz: you just might be a racist.

I know this comes as a complete shock for some in this thread whining about being called racist (because after all, we all know that caging migrant children and calling Mexicans rapists is not as bad as being called racist).
Ringo
 
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I would mind very much. Suffice to say that my paycheck was about $75/mo less, and my 2018 refund was about $500/mo less.

But that doesn’t speak to your total taxes.

What was the difference between total taxes last year and this year? By percentage is even better.


Think about it again.

No thanks. Don’t like being nauseated
 
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I. Ertinly will not benefit from the tax increase fought by Bernie.
Weird how after an entire thread talking about how great it was to have unfunded spending so everyone could get tax cuts that there's suddenly an about-face and every new bit of spending has to increase taxes. A bit of consistency would be a welcome change at some point.
 
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As a military service member, I have better equipment and better pay.
Ah yes, socialism at work and you're enjoying the redistribution of wealth into your pocket. Just give credit where credit is due (socialism).

My investments are doing much better with the booming economy.
Your investments are not doing any better than they were doing during the Obama era when they started setting records so I suppose you give credit to Obama equally.

The economy is not the market, however. When the market is booming the economy should be. Our current "boom" is a false boom created by the Fed pumping in easy money. Trump and his followers like yourself see this boom as a positive but it in fact the problem. It's based on terrible monetary policy. It's a sugar high and we're going to crash down from it.
https://mises.org/wire/why-trump-wants-fed-pump-even-more-easy-money

Oh, and the tax refund that I got because he "doubled the child tax credit" (he actually undid the Obama era 1/2 child tax credit reduction)
So again you're glad to benefit from socialism. Here is another case of money being taken from me and redistributed to you for no reason other than that you want it. In other words, more free stuff for you.

So if you're so pro-socialism why not support Bernie who will bring in more socialist policies that will benefit the middle class?
 
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You do realize that Medicare for all is going to cost $27-32 TRILLION DOLLARS over the course of a decade. Guess who is going to pay for that? YOU!! In YOUR taxes. You pay $600 dollars more in taxes every month. But at least you got your medicate. Sorry Bernie. No thank you.

How Much Will Medicare for All Cost?
WHAT???? $600??!?!?!?!?!???????? How could I ever afford that? How could ANYONE afford that???? It's LUDICROUS!!!!

Oh wait.... oh yeah, that's what I pay right now out of my paycheck every month. Oh and my employer is paying more than that on my behalf. So my employer and I are paying over double that already. So looks like I could easily afford it.

And with medicare for all I won't have to get claims denied because some exec is trying to make a bonus at the expense of my health. And Medicare for all will lower health care costs across the board. And with Medicare for all I can go to ANY doctor and not have to do a search to see which doctors are in my plan, outside my plan, kind-of-in-but-not-totally-in my plan, in my hospital network but not my doctor network, etc. I wouldn't have to worry about ER visits if they assign the wrong out-of-network doctor to me. I wouldn't have to have any co-pays or "co-insurance".

So nice try to scare me (and others) with numbers that really don't translate into anything scary but in fact are a good reminder of how much we're currently overpaying for a garbage system. I have BCBG's highest "cadillac" plan and it's a filthy joke what I get back for paying top dollar. Scum of the earth, those insurance companies. They'd gladly let you die a slow, painful death if it meant making enough money to buy 2 extra margaritas on their next tropical vacation paid by their bonus money from the suffering of thousands.
 
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There we have a disagreement. Voting for Bernie would not benefit me or, IMHO anyone in the middle class. If I cannot afford the huge rise in healthcare cost caused by Obama, I. Ertinly will not benefit from the tax increase fought by Bernie.
So you are saying you can't afford health care.

So if you or someone in your family gets sick and you can't afford to pay the doctor will you just remain sick? Will you or your loved one just get sicker because you accept that you can't afford care?

Or will you go to the ER and get care and then just not pay for it? I'm curious what your plan is. It sounds like you have decided you can't afford something as basic as your health. Can you afford your taxes? If you can afford your taxes then Medicare for all will be great for you because it will be part of your taxes which you can already afford.

And just how did Obama cause a rise in health care costs???

Along with the inevitable rise in the loss of jobs etc.
Where do you get this "loss of jobs" nonsense from? Do you mean the health insurance executives, the middlemen? You feel bad for them losing their jobs which exist solely on the high charges and poor service they provide to customers? You feel bad that they can't take vacations and buy big homes and nice cars by denying their service to sick people who are entitled to them but instead get sick and even die?

You might want to think more about yourself and your family than the well-being of wealthy people that profit off of other people's misery and death.

No thank you. Bernie is not the answer.
So what is? Just not having health care at all? Going to the ER and then stiffing the hospital and doctors?

Are you perhaps on medicaid? You should be if you're uninsured. If you're making too much to get medicaid then you are making enough to afford healthcare in one way or another.

I just have never met someone who doesn't have health care and is so non-chalant about it and doesn't mind not having it.

Yes, Bernie would the the answer for someone in your shoes who needs healthcare but can't afford it.
 
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So if you or someone in your family gets sick and you can't afford to pay the doctor will you just remain sick? Will you or your loved one just get sicker because you accept that you can't afford care?

You said that, I did not.

My family physician has a program. We pay 30.00 a month per person and that covers all in office visits. XRays stitches included.

I put the amount I was paying before the Obama Care, into a savings account. (It is quite a tidy sum currently). And I have a devastating illness insurance contract for 500,000 that I pay less than 100 a month for.

I was raised to be independent. So, no thank you I don’t want the government plan.
 
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You said that, I did not.

My family physician has a program. We pay 30.00 a month per person and that covers all in office visits. XRays stitches included.

So your doctor is running his own insurance plan.

ETA: Actually, it's more of a subscription service than an insurance plan. Not a bad idea, tbh.
 
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