On the week of creation, did the Lord create anything at night?

Mercy74 · Apr 23, 2019

pinacled said:
Has anyone mentioned the moon and stars?
Were they created in the evening.

Moon and stars on day 4.

pinacled · Apr 23, 2019

visionary said:
Which came first light or dark, then the other is created?

Light is first and last.

pinacled · Apr 23, 2019

Mercy74 said:
Moon and stars on day 4.

Ah yes,
The effervescent fluidity of time. Then with a level beyond the sod of PaRDeS there is the fullness of Life.

From water to wine back to water is a beautiful illustration as far as I can see.

Blessings Always

pinacled · Apr 23, 2019

Lulav said:
Part of the Passover Seder may shed light upon this.

From the Hallel (Psalms 113-118)

1 Praise ye the L-RD. Praise, O ye servants of the L-RD, praise the name of the L-RD.

2 Blessed be the name of the L-RD from this time forth and for evermore.

3 From the rising of the sun unto the going down of the same the L-RD'S name is to be praised.

Amen,

From east to west a portion of 7 and 8 are given.

pinacled · Apr 23, 2019

Lulav said:
it took me awhile to work up those graphics I was hoping you would give me a straight answer if that was what you were talking about, I'm afraid to try and interpret what you are saying here. But it looks to me that you are saying that Judah is the Shamash?

1 Reuben Leah
2 Simeon Leah
3 Levi Leah
4 Dan Bilhah
4 Judah Leah
5 Naphtali Bilhah
6 Gad Zilpah
7 Asher Zilpah
8 Issachar Leah
9 Zebulun Leah
10 Dinah Leah

Those are in chronilogical order. So you are including a female in this? Yes/No

So it would look like this? Yes/No

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Think of the strong arm and hand that holds the menorah. Visualize 4 fingers with three intersectional spaces filled.
There are infintesmal perspectives.

Just as there is an abundance of Blessings freely given.

Lulav · Apr 23, 2019

visionary said:
Which came first light or dark, then the other is created?

It depends on what time you are referring to.

In the very begining there was only G-d and He is light.

but if you are referring to genesis 1:1 -1:2 It reads,

In the beginning G-d created the heaven and the earth 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep

That is one of the reasons why I believe in the gap theory.

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

Light is 'good' but why wasn't it there in the first place?

It certainly wasn't the great light or lesser light as spoken of on Day 4.

In the hebrew it says :be light:

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, 18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. 19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Were these lights part of the light on the first day? divided up some how?

I also believe by this that the sun is a light and so is the moon, not just reflecting light as we are taught.

think about a total lunar eclipse.....

Mercy74 · Apr 24, 2019

Lulav said:
It depends on what time you are referring to.

In the very begining there was only G-d and He is light.

but if you are referring to genesis 1:1 -1:2 It reads,

In the beginning G-d created the heaven and the earth 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep

That is one of the reasons why I believe in the gap theory.

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

Light is 'good' but why wasn't it there in the first place?

It certainly wasn't the great light or lesser light as spoken of on Day 4.

In the hebrew it says :be light:

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, 18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. 19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Were these lights part of the light on the first day? divided up some how?

I also believe by this that the sun is a light and so is the moon, not just reflecting light as we are taught.

think about a total lunar eclipse.....

Light and darkness are eternal and infinite in nature, He gave form and shape to the earth by forming light and darkness, giving them shape, by assigning the light to a particular destination or place. As it is written let there be light, no mention of night for seven days.

visionary · Apr 24, 2019

Mercy74 said:
Light and darkness are eternal and infinite in nature, He gave form and shape to the earth by forming light and darkness, giving them shape, by assigning the light to a particular destination or place. As it is written let there be light, no mention of night for seven days.

Interesting... so no "night" following "evening"

pinacled · Apr 25, 2019

pinacled said:
I saw them(the three divided) as more like the intercections of the menorah. While the arms themselves represented the 7 fold spirit of the Lord. And further foreshadowing the Son to come.
Also I saw the rainbow above the menorah.

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Something else I heard in the spirit, " 3s and 4s are the way of the king"

So with the same illustration of,
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An additional perspective of the intersections of the menorah would be..
{|·|·|·|}
{|·|·|·|}
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Hidden with the spaces between each sequential dot representing the yrs age of each offering a person may perhaps find pearls of gentleness. Along with a traditional fold count of the promised tribes of yisrayl.

And there is still far more to explore in the terrain of the Torah.

Especially if what I heard about, "efrayim is the water that flows into the land that is manesseh"

Blessings Always

pinacled · Apr 27, 2019

Seems there is a lack of focus, and other fruits as well from those who have contributed.

I imagine my sis viz has patiently waited to hear the Good news very much like noach had.

If The Shabbat is the Yom(day when the Lord rested.

Well?

Blessed be the Way the Truth and the Life.

visionary · May 3, 2019

Mercy74 said:
When did Yeshua resurrect according to scripture?

Yeshua was resurrected on the feast of first fruits or otherwise known as the wave sheaf.

Yeshua fulfilled the four spring festivals when He came the first time. The four spring time feasts that He fulfilled are the Passover, the Feast of Unleaven Bread, the Wave Sheaf or First Fruits and the Feasts of Weeks or Pentecost. Let us take a look at these four feasts as see some of the things that the Lord did to fulfill them.

The feast of First Fruits or Wave Sheaf, as it is also called, comes in the spring the day after the first weekly Sabbath after the Passover.

Leviticus 23:9 The day after the first weekly Sabbath following Passover is also known as the Wave Sheaf.

Yeshua was resurrected on the Feast of First Fruits. This particular year, the Passover was on Thursday and Yeshua was in the grave for the three days and three nights just as He said He would be. ―For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Since Yeshua raises people instead of plants, His offering of first fruits to the Father was comprised of resurrected saints as seen in ―The tombs broke open and the bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. They came out of the tombs, and after Yeshua' resurrection they went into the holy city and appeared to many people. This would be His first act as High Priest before His Heavenly Father in the Heavenly courts.

This offering was the fulfillment of the festival, they were the first fruits of the bountiful harvest to come. ―And from Yeshua Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth; unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood. We know that those that were resurrected the same time that Yeshua was, are the first fruits of the harvest, a fulfillment of the this ceremonial Sabbath.

Mercy74 · May 4, 2019

visionary said:
Yeshua was resurrected on the feast of first fruits or otherwise known as the wave sheaf.

Yeshua fulfilled the four spring festivals when He came the first time. The four spring time feasts that He fulfilled are the Passover, the Feast of Unleaven Bread, the Wave Sheaf or First Fruits and the Feasts of Weeks or Pentecost. Let us take a look at these four feasts as see some of the things that the Lord did to fulfill them.

The feast of First Fruits or Wave Sheaf, as it is also called, comes in the spring the day after the first weekly Sabbath after the Passover.

Leviticus 23:9 The day after the first weekly Sabbath following Passover is also known as the Wave Sheaf.

Yeshua was resurrected on the Feast of First Fruits. This particular year, the Passover was on Thursday and Yeshua was in the grave for the three days and three nights just as He said He would be. ―For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Since Yeshua raises people instead of plants, His offering of first fruits to the Father was comprised of resurrected saints as seen in ―The tombs broke open and the bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. They came out of the tombs, and after Yeshua' resurrection they went into the holy city and appeared to many people. This would be His first act as High Priest before His Heavenly Father in the Heavenly courts.

This offering was the fulfillment of the festival, they were the first fruits of the bountiful harvest to come. ―And from Yeshua Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth; unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood. We know that those that were resurrected the same time that Yeshua was, are the first fruits of the harvest, a fulfillment of the this ceremonial Sabbath.

Awaiting the scripture that says which day Yeshua raised from the dead. After a seed dies and buried in the ground it produces many seeds (John 12:23-24) Which day of the week did Jonah die and raised from the dead?

visionary · May 4, 2019

Mercy74 said:
Who witnessed Yeshua's actual resurrection? Which day of the week did Jonah die or was swallowed by a fish? Which day of the week according to scripture did this fish vomit Jonah on dry land?-Jonah 2:10.

Do you think that Yeshua was tightly wound in His use of Jonah, right down to which day of the week, or was it a little looser use?

Mercy74 · May 4, 2019

visionary said:
Do you think that Yeshua was tightly wound in His use of Jonah, right down to which day of the week, or was it a little looser use?

Jonah was in the belley of the fish for 3 days and 3 nights; no human witnesses, only YHWH and the fish know. The Sabbath was made for man, I doubt the fish in the sea stop swimming on the Sabbath day.

Lulav · May 4, 2019

pinacled said:
The Shabbat isn t a number.

And also I would suggest you consider The two Shabbat surrounding the Lords work in creation.

Pin, are you saying there was a Shabbat before the week of creation? That wouldn't make sense because this is what the L-RD said:

Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the L-RD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11 For in six days the L-RD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the L-RD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

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No where does it say he rested before the six days and then rested after the six days.

Tone · May 4, 2019

Lulav said:
it took me awhile to work up those graphics I was hoping you would give me a straight answer if that was what you were talking about, I'm afraid to try and interpret what you are saying here. But it looks to me that you are saying that Judah is the Shamash?

1 Reuben Leah
2 Simeon Leah
3 Levi Leah
4 Dan Bilhah
4 Judah Leah
5 Naphtali Bilhah
6 Gad Zilpah
7 Asher Zilpah
8 Issachar Leah
9 Zebulun Leah
10 Dinah Leah

Those are in chronilogical order. So you are including a female in this? Yes/No

So it would look like this? Yes/No

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Can the Seven Churches of Revelation be superimposed? If so, from left to right...or right to left?

Tone · May 4, 2019

Mercy74 said:
G-d is light, and in him there is no darkness at all. Light is eternal in nature, the light was commanded to shine in the beginning. After this beautiful light shined, G-d saw the light and it was good. G-d separated the light from darkness. G-d called the light day , He called the darkness night. There was only evening and morning the first day.

Right, night is darkness and day is light. In the light there is evening and morning (day), but not so in the night...only darkness.

visionary · May 4, 2019

The Sabbath was established at creation before sin and was therefore part of God’s perfect plan from the very beginning. God also blessed and sanctified this day for Holy use at creation. This is the only reason we have a seven day week.

Mercy74 · May 4, 2019

visionary said:
The Sabbath was established at creation before sin and was therefore part of God’s perfect plan from the very beginning. God also blessed and sanctified this day for Holy use at creation. This is the only reason we have a seven day week.

I wonder if there is day and night in the bottom of the ocean? Jonah was in the belley of the fish for 3 days and 3 nights.

Mercy74 · May 4, 2019

Tone said:
Right, night is darkness and day is light. In the light there is evening and morning (day), but not so in the night...only darkness.

You can have 3 days and 3 nights within 36 hours. Day and night occur in the earth at the same time or concurrently.

On the week of creation, did the Lord create anything at night?

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