Can anyone post any message which refutes (proves wrong) my views either Scripturally, scientifically, historically or genetically? It should be EASY to confirm.
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Evolution or descent with modification?
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Can anyone post any message which refutes (proves wrong) my views either Scripturally, scientifically, historically or genetically? It should be EASY to confirm.
Waiting for just 1 example of where you or anyone else has proven my views wrong since they AGREE in every way with every other discovered Truth of mankind. Amen?
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Your claims have been refuted so often that no one even bothers to do so any longer than to state the obvious. First off you fail because you cannot properly support any of your claims. "It looks like what the Bible says by my interpretation" is not supporting your claims When you learn how to support your claims then you can raise the bar on what is needed to refute you. Most of your arguments are handwaved in and it only takes a handwave to refute them. Until you have something more substantial you will probably be seeing a lot of this guy:
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You have it backwards. We are waiting for one such example. When you make that sort of claim you need massive evidence to support it. Otherwise once again my little friend refutes your claims:
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You have it backwards. We are waiting for one such example. When you make that sort of claim you need massive evidence to support it. Otherwise once again my little friend refutes your claims:
In your dreams. Here are 3 agreements between recently discovered scientific facts which agree with Genesis. Here's an easy one:
5. Genesis 1:1 correctly shows that Water was not created but came out of Heaven/air. Science agrees since water comes from hydrogen and oxygen.
4. Genesis 6:4 shows HOW to make a modern Human by mixing the sons of God (prehistoric people) with Humans (Adam's descendants) Science agrees and shows that Human intelligence is the highest form of intelligence which can only be inherited from Adam. Genesis 3:22 Science also shows that we contain the DNA of the sons of God (prehistoric people)
2. Genesis 2:4 shows that the big bang was on the 3rd Day and Genesis 1:16 shows that it was the 4th Day before the first Stars were made. Science agrees and show that it was 180 million years after the bb until the first Stars. https://news.nationalgeographic.com/.../first-stars-universe-big-bang-edges-space-scie..Feb 28, 2018 - Now, scientists peering back into deep time suggest that the earliest stars didn't turn on until about 180 million years after the big bang, when ...
It's proof of God since NO man of the time (3k years ago) could have possibly known these things. I have much more evidence if you would like. Amen?
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LOL! You handwaved your arguments in. Do you even know how to support your claims? Once again my little friend refutes all of your claims:
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If I provide such a message will you stop making your claim? Are you prepared to put your money where your mouth is, or are you so invested in your dishonesty that you just cannot stop?
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All humans can understand technology and agriculture... but not all humans have ancestors in the middle east in the last 10 to 20 thousand years. So not all humans can be descended from one Ark-riding "human" family from Adam's dead Flat Earth.
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Amen. The guilty are the grandsons of Noah since they were like Cain on Adam's Earth because they had NO other Human (descendant of Adam) to marry. Like Cain, they married and produced children with the sons of God (prehistoric mankind) Genesis 6:4 and today, we number some 7.7 Billion. Our God is an awesome God. The sons of God INHERITED Adam's superior intelligence and Humans inherited the DNA of prehistoric people. God's Truth is the Truth in every way. Amen?
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That's my point. It didn't happen.
Of everyone had Noah as an ancestor as well as the "Sons of God" native Homo sapiens ancestry we'd still all have the the genetic evidence for Noah, but we don't.
It's actually much harder because in your model this would have to have happens before any of the ancient civilizations started.
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Then please explain HOW the superior intelligence of God got inside us. Tell us the process which stores intelligence for future generations. You cannot.
You are confused. Look for the superior intelligence which ONLY God and Adam have Genesis 3:22 and you will find that it SUDDENLY appeared in Lake Van, Turkey 11k years ago. Mix that superior intelligence with prehistoric people (1 million alive at the time) and you get today's 7.7 Billion descendants of Adam on planet Earth.
It's because most don't know that Adam was made on the 3rd Day. Genesis 2:4-7
Prehistoric people descended from the last universal common ancestor who lived some 3.8 Billion years ago. Genesis 1:21 Adam is HIS kind and prehistoric people are THEIR kind and man was made by God the Son and prehistoric people by God the invisible Spirit. Don't you know the difference between God the Father and God the Son? If not, you will never understand Genesis.
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Evolution is a process by which organisms change through time and how species originate or go extinct. It has nothing to do with any outside force or sentience. It is as unconscious a process as gravity is
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False, since evolution is the biggest Satanic Lie ever told. It is untrue Scripturally, Scientifically Historically Genetically and in every other way. Want to see. Just pick one of the categories and I will be most happy to show you.
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It doesn't matter what I think. Your idea is false on the evidence. If you want to take on faith that God miracled all the Homo sapiens to make them civilization level intelligent, you are welcome to, but it isn't supported by the genetic evidence.
Your common assertion that you have scientific backing is not true.
But that isn't true.
Intricate art work, tool design and even cites have cropped up all over the world from peoples without ancestors in middle east less then 20,000 years ago.
Pacific Islanders and the native people of South America had long been separated from the ancient people of the fertile crescent, but farmed and built sophisticated social and physical structures.
I have no reason to think any of that is even true.
Personally I don't see any justification for not seeing modern human intelligence as a natural progression from the above average intelligence of apes in general, only in our case with some extraordinary secondary consequences of only slightly higher intelligence.
The other issue is that your interpretation is not supported by many, if any, of your fellow Christians.
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Science has presented abundant evidence that you have been too stubborn to consider, or to ill informed to understand. That is down to your approach, not the scientific evidence.
Give me a single example.We ask them the time and they tell us the weather.
No. Telling you to study evolution is either out of a desire that you can be enlightened, or out of frustration that you continue to intransigently shut your eyes to the evidence.
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Let's get this straightened out then, beginning with explaining the "evolutionary timescale".
"After the initial discovery of the "mitochondrial Eve", Wilson felt uneasy about using the term "Eve" because it caused many to think that she was the only woman living at that time, much like what is written in Genesis of the Bible concerning Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. Also, the usual evolutionary time-scale for man did not allow such a short time as 200,000 years. Rather, it is believed that man has been around for a much longer period of time. Java man is thought to be 800,000 years old. Homo erectus specimens are found all throughout the world. Over forty specimens of Asian Homo erectus which have been found in China, have been dated 220,000 to 500,000 years of age. Lucy, and the earliest remains of specimens that are thought to be of the first to stand upright, are thought to be at least 1 to 4 million years of age."
The Mitochondrial Eve: Have Scientists Found the Mother of Us All? MHRC
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Ophiolite
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"Evolutionary timescale" is not a phrase I would use and not one I'm conscious of having seen often (ever?). Its use in the linked article makes it the equivalent of "the period over which certain evolutionary changes are thought to have occurred". I would have thought that meaning was self evident from the context, so I have to think you are actually asking me something else. If so, please clarify your question.
I note that there are some peculiar ideas expressed in the article, so if your question relates to the theme of the article please be specific in your question(s).
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