Girl expelled for kneeing a boy in the girls' bathroom

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Well, she kneed him in a sensitive spot on his body, but the incident occurred in the girls' bathroom.

Boys had invaded the girls' bathroom to take selfies. Allegedly, they were blocking the door, preventing the girls inside from leaving, so one of the girls took matters into her own knees and got suspended and expelled for it.

Why had boys entered the girls' bathroom? Apparently, "a student transitioning from female to male posted a selfie from the boys’ bathroom." [ETA: this was a totally separate, previous event.]

Having seen the selfie, the boys quite naturally responded in the most rational way possible, and invaded the girls bathroom.

Violence is seldom the answer, but depending on the details, this could very well be completely justified.

I should add that the district says "multiple students faced disciplinary action."
Another situation in which the entire fault and responsibility lies with the school administration. Whoever the school official is who was charged with accommodating transgender individuals and preparing the school community for their presence has failed and deserves to bear the brunt of any discipline. Summary discharge without a reference seems appropriate.
 
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I agreed with you, because your post made it clear to me that an earlier act of violence could have prevented the later act of violence.

Would that have been preferable in your opinion?
 
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Isn't violence prevention an idea we can all get behind?

I don't see how unjustified violence preventing justified violence is a good idea.
 
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Ah and I was guessing he might be in there because he "self identified as a girl". In which case, the girl could get in big trouble for that!
A minor cannot "self-identify as a girl" unilaterally. If the school administration allows that then, as I said above, the incident is entirely their fault.
 
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I mean with respect to school authorities, allowing students to identify as "trans" without the cooperation and support of parents and relevant psychological experts. To allow a student to decide on a whim that "I think I'm a girl" and wander into the girl's locker room is cruelty to that child and I think in most such cases represents the acting out of hostility to transgenderism on the part of school authorities. It is at least a dereliction of their responsibility.
 
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I mean with respect to school authorities, allowing students to identify as "trans" without the cooperation and support of parents and relevant psychological experts. To allow a student to decide on a whim that "I think I'm a girl" and wander into the girl's locker room is cruelty to that child and I think in most such cases represents the acting out of hostility to transgenderism on the part of school authorities. It is at least a dereliction of their responsibility.
I don't know. That sounds oppressive. Authoritarian. Almost sensible.
 
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So she misunderstood this person's gender and attacked them for it?

If there hadn't been the Trans angle, I would have complained that she was punished for defending herself. But it sounds to me like this person wasn't doing anything other than merely existing, which as we unfortunately know, is a bridge too far for those sensitive to the fact that Transgenderism exists. I dunno if she should have been expelled, but she sounds like the aggressor to me.
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If they were blocking the girls from leaving the bathroom and one of them got kneed, I'm not sure what that has to do with misunderstanding anything.
 
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If they were blocking the girls from leaving the bathroom and one of them got kneed, I'm not sure what that has to do with misunderstanding anything.

essential (OP) makes it sound like the girl in question mistook the MtF individual with the boys blocking the bathroom. I don't blame her for kneeing the guys to get them out of the way, but if it's a situation where the treatment was directed to the Trans person, it gives me pause. MtF individuals are not predators waiting to harass women in bathrooms.
Ringo
 
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