Can the Church Survive Without God's Word?

Can the church survive without God's word?

  • Yes.

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  • No.

    Votes: 22 56.4%

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Gregory Thompson

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Do you accept the apocrypha as God's word on par with the rest of Scripture?

Can't say. I've read them, but not as much as the protestant advertised scriptures.

I mean, I was listening to a NKJV bible today, and while I was listening through the psalms and proverbs today, I was noticing some of the things advocated in the Psalms Christians actually do, though the New Testament has better instructions. So perhaps we could remove the parts of the Old Testament that are bad examples next?
 
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My point is...it is the same Creator Who created our bodies and the Body.

*And it's mRNA...not RNA (I think that's a nurse)
Oh we must use slightly different terms in my area for nurses.

But yeah, He who made the outside, also made the inside.
 
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"The genes in DNA encode protein molecules, which are the "workhorses" of the cell, carrying out all the functions necessary for life. For example, enzymes, including those that metabolize nutrients and synthesize new cellular constituents, as well as DNA polymerases and other enzymes that make copies of DNA during cell division, are all proteins.

In the simplest sense, expressing a gene means manufacturing its corresponding protein, and this multilayered process has two major steps. In the first step, the information in DNA is transferred to a messenger RNA (mRNA) molecule by way of a process called transcription. During transcription, the DNA of a gene serves as a template for complementary base-pairing, and an enzyme called RNA polymerase II catalyzes the formation of a pre-mRNA molecule, which is then processed to form mature mRNA (Figure 1). The resulting mRNA is a single-stranded copy of the gene, which next must be translated into a protein molecule."

The DNA never leaves the nucleus of the cell...it sends out an exact replica...mRNA...out into the world to spread the code...sound familiar?

Translation: DNA to mRNA to Protein | Learn Science at Scitable
 
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"Ribonucleic acid, or RNA is one of the three major biological macromolecules that are essential for all known forms of life (along with DNA and proteins). A central tenet of molecular biology states that the flow of genetic information in a cell is from DNA through RNA to proteins: “DNA makes RNA makes protein”. Proteins are the workhorses of the cell; they play leading roles in the cell as enzymes, as structural components, and in cell signaling, to name just a few. DNA(deoxyribonucleic acid) is considered the “blueprint” of the cell; it carries all of the genetic information required for the cell to grow, to take in nutrients, and to propagate. RNA–in this role–is the “DNA photocopy” of the cell. When the cell needs to produce a certain protein, it activates the protein’s gene–the portion of DNA that codes for that protein–and produces multiple copies of that piece of DNA in the form of messenger RNA, or mRNA. The multiple copies of mRNA are then used to translate the genetic code into protein through the action of the cell’s protein manufacturing machinery, the ribosomes. Thus, RNA expands the quantity of a given protein that can be made at one time from one given gene, and it provides an important control point for regulating when and how much protein gets made."
What is RNA? | RNA Society

Does anybody else see the Father, and the Son, and the Breath, and the Apostles, and heaven (Nucleus), and earth etc... We're talking analogously here. After all, it's the same Creator.

*Scribes...
 
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"The nucleus is an organelle found in eukaryotic cells. Inside its fully-enclosed nuclear membrane, it contains the majority of the cell's genetic material. This material is organized as DNA molecules, along with a variety of proteins, to form chromosomes.

The nucleus is made up of a double membrane nuclear envelope that keeps the entire organelle encased, isolating its contents from the rest of the cell, and the nucleoskeleton which supports the cell as a whole. The nucleus maintains the security of the genes and controls the functions of the entire cell by regulating gene expression. This is why the nucleus is sometimes referred to as the control center, or the "brain," of the cell.

Since large molecules cannot get inside the nucleus through the nuclear membrane, small holes called nuclear pores dot the surface area of the envelope. These pores regulate the transport of those molecules by carrier proteins embedded in the double layer of the membrane. Small molecules and ions are able to pass through the membrane freely, however.

The nucleus is the site for genetic transcription, while keeping it separated from the cytoplasm. This means gene regulation is taking place in eukaryotic cells that have a nucleus, but that this gene regulation isn't available to prokaryotes. That means the main function of the nucleus is to govern gene expression and facilitate DNA replication during the cell cycle."
Function of the Nucleus

Whoa! I thought I saw Jacob's ladder...
 
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The DNA never leaves the nucleus of the cell...it sends out an exact replica...mRNA...out into the world to spread the code...sound familiar?
Somewhere in the depths of the 58 year old hard drive that is my mind, I'm sure this is stored....but for now, what the heck does this have to do with the OP?
 
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Somewhere in the depths of the 58 year old hard drive that is my mind, I'm sure this is stored....but for now, what the heck does this have to do with the OP?

I think it has something to do with evangelism.
 
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Somewhere in the depths of the 58 year old hard drive that is my mind, I'm sure this is stored....but for now, what the heck does this have to do with the OP?

"analogue (n.)
1826, "an analogous thing," from French analogue (adj. and n.), from Latin analogus (adj.), from Greek analogos "proportionate, according to due proportion," from ana "throughout; according to" (see ana-) + logos "ratio, proportion," a specialized use (see Logos).

The word was used in English in Greek form (analogon) in 1810. Meaning "word corresponding with another" is from 1837. Computing sense, in reference to operating with numbers represented by some measurable quantity (as a slide-rule does; opposed to digital) is recorded from 1946."
analogue | Origin and meaning of analogue by Online Etymology Dictionary
 
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"analogue (n.)
1826, "an analogous thing," from French analogue (adj. and n.), from Latin analogus (adj.), from Greek analogos "proportionate, according to due proportion," from ana "throughout; according to" (see ana-) + logos "ratio, proportion," a specialized use (see Logos).

The word was used in English in Greek form (analogon) in 1810. Meaning "word corresponding with another" is from 1837. Computing sense, in reference to operating with numbers represented by some measurable quantity (as a slide-rule does; opposed to digital) is recorded from 1946.
analogue | Origin and meaning of analogue by Online Etymology Dictionary
Got it, so it really has nothing to do with the OP. Thanks.
 
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Some folks, when they don't get things, perhaps out of feelings of inadequacy, mock and ridicule. It is better to keep silent and search it out, or to ask questions, or to wait until you are ready for it...ignorance is inexcusable.
 
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Some folks, when they don't get things, because of feelings of inadequacy, mock and ridicule. It is better to keep silent and search it out, or to ask questions, or to wait until you are ready for it...ignorance is inexcusable.
...or just maybe it's better to stick to the subject of the OP instead of vearing off course.
 
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Well then, to answer your question, some Bibles do, and others do not.

I personally wish everyone stuck with KJV as the main version and used other Bibles for studying purposes. It is important to me that we all have a common reference point even if some other versions may give a more accurate translation at times.
Accuracy is better.

But, having said that, it is called the word, but it is the message that those words communicate that I am referring to.
Well, different people read the same text and glean a different “message” don’t they? How do we determine which message is true and which is false?

Here’s a hint: 2 Thessalonians 2:15

It does not sound like you regard the Bible above any other writing. Is that an accurate understanding?
Sure I do. Let me give you an example. The Vulgate is above the KJV and every other Protestant “Bible”.
 
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Well then, to answer your question, some Bibles do, and others do not.

Accuracy is better.

Well, different people read the same text and glean a different “message” don’t they? How do we determine which message is true and which is false?

Here’s a hint: 2 Thessalonians 2:15

Sure I do. Let me give you an example. The Vulgate is above the KJV and every other Protestant “Bible”.

I think it's fantastic that you are a Latin scholar. I would love to be able to read the Greek and Hebrew as well. Realistically speaking, I'm probably not going to do that.

But I am curious, what is so different about the Vulgate than the KJV after both are compared to the original languages.
 
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I think it's fantastic that you are a Latin scholar. I would love to be able to read the Greek and Hebrew as well. Realistically speaking, I'm probably not going to do that.

But I am curious, what is so different about the Vulgate than the KJV after both are compared to the original languages.
I don’t read Latin. The KJV does not admit that the Deuterocanonical books are Scripture, so it is automatically inferior.
 
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