Flood Physics.

HitchSlap said:

Replying to yourself now, are you?

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Since you didn't flesh out your own term I tried to be nice and do it for you.

dad said:

Correct, 70 million imaginary years based on assuming the past was the same as now along with it's radioactivity- and about 4500 actual real years ago.

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Dad, if you want to claim it is different the burden of proof is upon you. But without an understanding of the sciences I sincerely doubt if you can.

AV1611VET said:

Nope?

Let's test it, shall we?

Put some dead cows that died of anthrax in a corral.

Pump in some water until the water is ... oh ... ten feet deep.

Let it sit there for a year, then pump out what water is remaining and let the soggy earth and rotten flesh just lie there and fester.

Now send eight horses into the corral.

Let me know the results.

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I don't think that you understand the concept of a scientific test.

Subduction Zone said:

I don't think that you understand the concept of a scientific test.

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Try it anyway.

Let me know what happens.

AV1611VET said:

Try it anyway.

Let me know what happens.

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Since it is only a waste of time I will pass. Unless you are willing to pay me for my effort.

Subduction Zone said:

Since it is only a waste of time I will pass. Unless you are willing to pay me for my effort.

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What's the matter?

Don't want to admit that the corral would need to be cleaned up so the horses can survive?

Methinks any child could see that.

Subduction Zone, QV please: My Sanitary Challenge

dad said:

I figure if the windows of heaven can open and draw waters to earth from the far side of the firmament hey, they probably could have sucked it off the planet also! Heck even man has a vacuum cleaner that can more or less do that sort of thing.

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Wait... I feel like I've seen this before... a long, long time ago...

AV1611VET said:

What's the matter?

Don't want to admit that the corral would need to be cleaned up so the horses can survive?

Methinks any child could see that.

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More magic isnt an answer.

AV1611VET said:

What's the matter?

Don't want to admit that the corral would need to be cleaned up so the horses can survive?

Methinks any child could see that.

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So what? I love how you have to make up things to cover the errors in the Bible. I don't think that is approved of by most Christians either.

Subduction Zone said:

So what? I love how you have to make up things to cover the errors in the Bible. I don't think that is approved of by most Christians either.

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There aren't 'errors' in the Bible. It's just that attempting to treat it as a 100% literal record of history and description of nature is like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.

To go further with this analogy, overly literalist Christians attempt to do anything they can to jam the peg in there, including trying to change the shape of the peg and the hole.

Atheists, meanwhile, say 'it doesn't fit, so the peg must be defective'.

What they're both missing is that the peg is not meant to fit into that particular hole.

AV1611VET said:

Or a supernatural containment vessel.

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inquiring mind said:

Noah did... but he had an inside tip.

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I was thinking about..... y'know.... boats. I believe seafaring ships were a thing in those days. Inquiring Mind suggested that even in a slowly moving flood people wouldn't have time to cobble a raft together, maybe not, but there would have been boats around for some people.

AV1611VET said:

Nope?

Let's test it, shall we?

Put some dead cows that died of anthrax in a corral.

Pump in some water until the water is ... oh ... ten feet deep.

Let it sit there for a year, then pump out what water is remaining and let the soggy earth and rotten flesh just lie there and fester.

Now send eight horses into the corral.

Let me know the results.

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Are you suggesting that the remains of all the people and animals murdered in the flood were supernaturally removed?

Jimmy D said:

I was thinking about..... y'know.... boats. I believe seafaring ships were a thing in those days. Inquiring Mind suggested that even in a slowly moving flood people wouldn't have time to cobble a raft together, maybe not, but there would have been boats around for some people.

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In a landlocked area?

Jimmy D said:

Are you suggesting that the remains of all the people and animals murdered in the flood were supernaturally removed?

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Murdered: no.

Supernaturally removed: yes.

AV1611VET said:

In a landlocked area?

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No. Egypt, China, anywhere.

Subduction Zone said:

Dad, if you want to claim it is different the burden of proof is upon you. But without an understanding of the sciences I sincerely doubt if you can.

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If anyone wants to claim any physics in unknown times of the future or regarding creation issues, they bear the weight of proof. If I point out science doesn't know, you still bear it if you claim it does.

AV1611VET said:

Murdered: no.

Supernaturally removed: yes.

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Potato - Potahto.

"Every living thing that moved on land perished—birds, livestock, wild animals, all the creatures that swarm over the earth, and all mankind. Everything on dry land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died."

So in terms of fossils, bones etc you believe that all the evidence of this event was removed?

Jimmy D said:

... but there would have been boats around for some people.

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AV1611VET said:

In a landlocked area?

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Jimmy D said:

No. Egypt, China, anywhere.

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You're contradicting yourself.

Either the word NO, or the word ANYWHERE, has to go in your last post.

You seem to be claiming that those in landlocked areas were building boats.

If they were, they must have been doing so to sell them.

Petros2015 said:

Wait... I feel like I've seen this before... a long, long time ago...

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I would think that if the windows of heaven brought water from beyond the universe we know, where the stars are...it was not a hose or mechanical. Probably more like what science envisions as a wormhole...or Hollywood envisions as..Stargate.