Non-Christians, where is the body of Jesus of Nazareth?

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Long ago decayed in a ditch most likely. Jesus was a common rebel from the Romans’ point of view, assuming the pious accounts preserve some nuggets of history. Common rebels were unceremoniously tossed into common graves, no reason to think Jesus would have been any different.

Or maybe in a tomb some place, again this is unlikely as tombs were too expensive for a small band of religious derelicts to afford. But say the body was lucky enough to rest in some dark corner of a 1st century tomb, what happened next is anyone’s guess. Maybe a few days later Jesus’ friends peek into the tomb in the dim light of dawn, hoping not to find him and just don’t look very hard. Squinting through tears in the dark cavern they sort of half look but not really, just enough to confirm their hopes. He’s gone after all, he must have ascended! Spiritual visions were only natural from there, then a few decades later the author of John ties up that loose end with his decidedly physical resurrection story.

Or, still assuming he was in a tomb. Maybe Judas wracked with guilt bribes the guards to roll back the stone so he can steal away with the corpse. Remember Judas has the silver. Delicious irony, a whole religion two millennia later still riding the coattails of its arch traitor.

Are any of these empty tomb scenarios very likely? Nope. But all of them are light-years more likely than a miracle happening.

On the other hand the implied premise of this post is wrong in the first place. A person could believe a man resurrected from the dead, and still not believe the lucky chap is worthy of worship much less the son of God. The demons believe and shudder, right?

On the other other hand, and here’s where things gets weird so let's not dwell on it, just because a person resurrects from the dead or is born from a virgin does not mean a miracle happened. The laws of physics don’t rule out either one. Both are just super unlikely to happen in any one particular universe.

Matthew 27:57-60,
Luke 23:50-54.
 
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Cool. Now keep reading Mark until get to the part with the resurrection appearances.

Read it.

I see three alternatives,
Accept it,
Reject it,
Study it=question and probe.

I am not that intrested,

What made me comment was you drifted away from the story,

Which makes me wonder if you youself had read the accounts.
 
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Where is the body of Jesus of Nazareth? I want to hear what you believe.
The body of Jesus of Nazareth has long ago gone back into the Earth from which is came.

What to me the more interesting question is: Where is the body of Christ?

To that I'd answer that the body of Christ is within the very essence of all there is. From the tiniest atomic particle to the largest cosmic form. In my grandchild's laughs and giggles, the mountain meadow full of spring boom, in a mother's bonding love for her new born child, in our breath of life and even in our death.
 
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The body of Jesus of Nazareth has long ago gone back into the Earth from which is came.

What to me the more interesting question is: Where is the body of Christ?

To that I'd answer that the body of Christ is within the very essence of all there is. From the tiniest atomic particle to the largest cosmic form. In my grandchild's laughs and giggles, the mountain meadow full of spring boom, in a mother's bonding love for her new born child, in our breath of life and even in our death.

That was poetic and beautiful and true. I have tried in my way to express the same thoughts ---

In the days and weeks following the crucifixion, the apostles and disciples returned to Galilee in shock and disbelief at what had happened. However, it gradually dawned on them that, if the life and teachings of Jesus were to have any lasting impact, it could only happen by and through them. That is equally true of us today. They and we are the true resurrection.

Jesus has died, Christ is risen.
 
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Read it.

I see three alternatives,
Accept it,
Reject it,
Study it=question and probe.

I am not that intrested,

What made me comment was you drifted away from the story,

Which makes me wonder if you youself had read the accounts.

Mark does not have any resurrection appearances. In case you do ever get interested.
 
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Mark does not have any resurrection appearances. In case you do ever get interested.

16:9-20 does not belong to the original text,
apparently, have I learnt today.

but still not intrested.

Mind you I could tell of a true event from Israel, but I will not,
do not have the energy or the writing skills.
 
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16:9-20 does not belong to the original text,
apparently, have I learnt today.

but still not intrested.

Mind you I could tell of a true event from Israel, but I will not,
do not have the energy or the writing skills.

Provide the evidence to me directly. I will write the paper and get it published. Fame and fortune will be ours.
 
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Provide the evidence to me directly. I will write the paper and get it published. Fame and fortune will be ours.

It has already been published by Jem,

Jewish education medie,

Though not sure if many on a Christian forum are intrested,

They do not usually listen to what others say.
 
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This question is for non-Christians:

Where is the body of Jesus of Nazareth? I want to hear what you believe.

Thanks

I don't know. Its not a question I spend any time pondering on as such. There are multiple things that could have occurred, but I wouldn't know if any of them were true.
 
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Do you want to know the Truth?

Just to add, I already know the truth, the truth is I don't know. Of course that is a half answer because it isn't a truth in knowing the actual events as they unfolded, but I'm fine with that. Hence my previous answer.
 
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Just to add, I already know the truth, the truth is I don't know. Of course that is a half answer because it isn't a truth in knowing the actual events as they unfolded, but I'm fine with that. Hence my previous answer.

The Truth on whether Jesus' body disintegrated or was raised is not "I don't know". That's your lack of knowledge, not knowledge itself. You have already confessed honestly that you do not WANT to know the Truth on this matter. And that shows you do not have it. You can't disregard the Truth on this matter, say you don't want to know it, and then at the same time claim you have it. You're contradicting yourself. You're not even being True to your own words. That's called "doublemindedness", a divided mind.
 
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The Truth on whether Jesus' body disintegrated or was raised is not "I don't know". That's your lack of knowledge, not knowledge itself. You have already confessed honestly that you do not WANT to know the Truth on this matter. And that shows you do not have it. You can't disregard the Truth on this matter, say you don't want to know it, and then at the same time claim you have it. You're contradicting yourself. You're not even being True to your own words. That's called "doublemindedness", a divided mind.
I'm wondering if your confusing "faith" with "knowing".
 
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I'm wondering if your confusing "faith" with "knowing".

No. You're confusing Faith with lack of Knowledge. Faith is not the absence of Knowledge. "Faith is the SUBSTANCE of things Hoped for, the EVIDENCE of things unseen" (Hebrews 11:1). I say the same thing as John... "That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched--this we proclaim concerning the Word of life." I don't just speak about things I believe in. I speak about the things I have heard, seen, and touched.... the things I also know. As Paul also says "I KNOW whom I have BELIEVED in." (2 Timothy 1:12)
 
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No. You're confusing Faith with lack of Knowledge. Faith is not the absence of Knowledge. "Faith is the SUBSTANCE of things Hoped for, the EVIDENCE of things unseen" (Hebrews 11:1). I say the same thing as John... "That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched--this we proclaim concerning the Word of life." I don't just speak about things I believe in. I speak about the things I have heard, seen, and touched.... the things I also know. As Paul also says "I KNOW whom I have BELIEVED in." (2 Timothy 1:12)
With all due respect, in reading this, I think my question still stands.
 
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I'm wondering if your confusing "faith" with "knowing".

I sometimes think that we are mistaken when we insist that faith is believing in six impossible things before breakfast. To me, faith is a deep and abiding trust that, come what may, God is always with us.
 
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