How to Spank a Child Biblically?

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I don't tell "them" how wrong they are. Experiences in child rearing are different. Parents and children are different. Breaking the will is not abuse but absolutely needed. A child, screaming and kicking, obsessed with a temper tantrum, must be broken, if not, this unacceptable behaviour will grow more and more up to a juvenile terrorism with threat to parents life and physical condition. At the end, (kid), he/she will be jailed. So, at last, "helpless" parents have to give away their rebellious child to a mental hospital or alternatively to that there will be submission of the parents to the terror of their undisciplined children or giving them drugs like Ritalin. But the proper remedy for rebellion, temper tantrum and disobedience is and will be a good, hard spanking. Always and until the end of all time. Biblical promise kept! That's my experience, not more, not less. Everybody should have the right to raise the children his/her way. The result will be crucial. Pray before, then spank firmly with love, then pray after! Slack and released from internal tensions, son/daughter will yield gladly to to you and your authority. If not, you have to spank again until his/her will is completely broken. There's no alternative. Biblical truth! Thousands of years of parental experience being uncontroversial. So, it's proven.
 
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Breaking the will is not abuse but absolutely needed

If not, you have to spank again until his/her will is completely broken.

I think this is treading on dangerous ground.
You break horses not children.
I was a very mild mannered child but a very strong-willed teenager. Where do you draw the line with breaking the will? I can tell you that trying to break the will of a child or teenager is dangerous if you chose to spank.

A child, screaming and kicking, obsessed with a temper tantrum, must be broken,

This child needs someone to help him gain control. Those are very big feelings and emotions in a child. When he is kicking and screaming and having a temper tantrum, that child has lost control of himself. It's up to you as the parent to understand that and help him feel safe. He is already frightened and angry. This is when you speak calmly and soothingly and explain his feeling to him...define them. "I can see you are feeling very angry right now. It's okay to be angry." Labelling his emotions will help him understand them. Stay close by and talk calmly. Don't isolate him. Keep talking to him until he is able to calm down. Sometimes, you may need to hold him and help him calm down. Some children will calm down much quicker if you hold them tightly and help them feel safe. Being out of control is frightening. Please don't spank your child for having a temper tantrum, especially a 2 or 3-year-old.

A good, hard spanking?

Do you even realize what you're doing to a child when you do that? Think about it.
The child is out of control (Already frightened) You pull that child over your knee or whatever position you choose and you smack them on the bottom causing them pain. You are causing panic, pain and distress in an already out of control child. The person who is supposed to love them most and who they trust the most is causing them pain when they are already frightened by their own loss of control. Emotionally, this is terrifying. Their fight and fight instinct is in full swing giving them a bigger adrenaline rush. It is a complete sensory overload. How can this not be seen as abusive?

There's no alternative.

Wrong! Spanking is one tool in a toolbox filled with other alternatives.
Proactive, gentle parenting is much more effective.
 
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Breaking the will is not abuse but absolutely needed.

I completely disagree. We must train our children to learn self-control, not "break" them.
 
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Hi everyone,

New member here. Just want to get some ideas on the best, most proper biblical way to spank a child.

1. What is the best implement to use? Hand, wooden spoon, etc.

2. Should it be done over clothing, underwear, or bare bottom?

3. How many strokes should be given? When should you stop? I know that the Bible doesn’t allow more that 40 strokes, but this is for adult criminals.

4. How do you deal with a child who hits, kicks, and screams bloody murder to try and get away?

5. Should a prayer be said before and after administering the spanking? If so, what are some good prayers for this?

1. Nothing.
2. None of the above.
3. None.
4. Let them get away.
5. Prayers should be said. Skip the spanking.
 
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Your disagreement is with proverbs.

Since the book of Proverbs is part of the Bible’s wisdom literature, it is appropriate to interpret its contents differently than, say, a historical account. Proverbs are not necessarily to be taken literally, and they are not promises; rather, they are an acknowledgment of a common reality.

What is a proverb in the Bible?
 
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The rod was, at the time the Book of Proverbs was written, a culturally-understood representation of authority. In the rod verses, this speaks to the idea of parental authority over a child. This authority is one of vision, leadership, and instruction, with the parent's life experience (knowledge, principles, right-living, and more) transferred from the parent to the child as he grows.

The rod verses also speak to the idea of corrective discipline. Examining the Hebrew words behind these concepts reveals nothing that points specifically to physical chastisement. Rather, we find the idea of a parent's authoritative discipline and correction being a constant presence in a child's life. From a foundation of relationship, this discipline seeks to impart wisdom and generate internal change rather than merely modify external behaviour.

Finally, when examining the picture of the shepherd's rod, along with his co-tool, the staff, we discover the idea of the rod as protective guidance. The shepherd's rod was used to defend and discipline his sheep, and was a symbol of his power, authority, and defense. The shepherd's staff was used to gently lift and guide his sheep, and was a symbol of comfort and compassion. Neither tool was ever used to strike the sheep. Likewise, a parent should use his authority not to instil fear, but to gently protect, guide, and comfort them.

In short, the rod is a picture of a parent's constant authoritative discipline as he gently guides his child along the right path.

The Hippie Housewife: The Rod Verses: What are they really saying?

 
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The rod was, at the time the Book of Proverbs was written, a culturally-understood representation of authority. In the rod verses, this speaks to the idea of parental authority over a child. This authority is one of vision, leadership, and instruction, with the parent's life experience (knowledge, principles, right-living, and more) transferred from the parent to the child as he grows.

The rod verses also speak to the idea of corrective discipline. Examining the Hebrew words behind these concepts reveals nothing that points specifically to physical chastisement. Rather, we find the idea of a parent's authoritative discipline and correction being a constant presence in a child's life. From a foundation of relationship, this discipline seeks to impart wisdom and generate internal change rather than merely modify external behaviour.

Finally, when examining the picture of the shepherd's rod, along with his co-tool, the staff, we discover the idea of the rod as protective guidance. The shepherd's rod was used to defend and discipline his sheep, and was a symbol of his power, authority, and defense. The shepherd's staff was used to gently lift and guide his sheep, and was a symbol of comfort and compassion. Neither tool was ever used to strike the sheep. Likewise, a parent should use his authority not to instil fear, but to gently protect, guide, and comfort them.

In short, the rod is a picture of a parent's constant authoritative discipline as he gently guides his child along the right path.

The Hippie Housewife: The Rod Verses: What are they really saying?
The hippie housewife rejects the authority of God's word .She is rejected.
 
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I think this is treading on dangerous ground.
You break horses not children.
I was a very mild mannered child but a very strong-willed teenager. Where do you draw the line with breaking the will? I can tell you that trying to break the will of a child or teenager is dangerous if you chose to spank.



This child needs someone to help him gain control. Those are very big feelings and emotions in a child. When he is kicking and screaming and having a temper tantrum, that child has lost control of himself. It's up to you as the parent to understand that and help him feel safe. He is already frightened and angry. This is when you speak calmly and soothingly and explain his feeling to him...define them. "I can see you are feeling very angry right now. It's okay to be angry." Labelling his emotions will help him understand them. Stay close by and talk calmly. Don't isolate him. Keep talking to him until he is able to calm down. Sometimes, you may need to hold him and help him calm down. Some children will calm down much quicker if you hold them tightly and help them feel safe. Being out of control is frightening. Please don't spank your child for having a temper tantrum, especially a 2 or 3-year-old.

A good, hard spanking?

Do you even realize what you're doing to a child when you do that? Think about it.
The child is out of control (Already frightened) You pull that child over your knee or whatever position you choose and you smack them on the bottom causing them pain. You are causing panic, pain and distress in an already out of control child. The person who is supposed to love them most and who they trust the most is causing them pain when they are already frightened by their own loss of control. Emotionally, this is terrifying. Their fight and fight instinct is in full swing giving them a bigger adrenaline rush. It is a complete sensory overload. How can this not be seen as abusive?



Wrong! Spanking is one tool in a toolbox filled with other alternatives.
Proactive, gentle parenting is much more effective.
Another who knows better than Solomon.
 
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Proverbs is a book of wisdom not commands from the Lord.
You misunderstand the rod verses. Study the original languages.
Nonsense...it does not change the verses. They mean exactly what they say. You and no one else can allegorize them away.
 
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Hi everyone,

New member here. Just want to get some ideas on the best, most proper biblical way to spank a child.

1. What is the best implement to use? Hand, wooden spoon, etc.

2. Should it be done over clothing, underwear, or bare bottom?

3. How many strokes should be given? When should you stop? I know that the Bible doesn’t allow more that 40 strokes, but this is for adult criminals.

4. How do you deal with a child who hits, kicks, and screams bloody murder to try and get away?

5. Should a prayer be said before and after administering the spanking? If so, what are some good prayers for this?
Hand, switch, wooden spoon, wooden spatula, always firmly applied on the holy terror's and sinner's bare bottom, give him/her as many strokes as required until rebellion and defiance will be broken. Proverbs 20:30 Blows that wound cleanse away evil; strokes make clean the innermost parts. Spanking works wonders! It makes your kid, sweet, humble and obedient. Pray before and after.
 
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7 Ways Parents Unfairly Provoke Their Children - Tim Challies

from above ^

"These parents give time and attention to their children while they are young, they raise them with kindness and discipline, and they do this by holding in mind the future relationship they long to have.

So many can testify that their parents used anger or the threat of anger as a means of correction and punishment. Discipline was not delivered with calmness and self-control but with angry slaps or cutting words. And of course this leads to anger. A parent’s anger leads to their child’s anger. How couldn’t it? But in this case the parent’s anger is unjust while the child’s anger is just. God expects that we will discipline and instruct our children with patience and kindness. This involves modeling the very actions, attitudes, and words we want them to display."

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Notice there is NOTHING about hitting children but instead MODELING the very actions, attitudes, and words we want them to display.

Notice kindness is mentioned and keeping in mind relationship with your child.
 
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