The Inspiration of Scripture

What the Bible says, God says.


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A good point.

But because God the Father or Jesus is not the primary speaker, does not mean the words are any less inspired or important.
Would they still be important if they aren’t supposed to be in there to begin with? How can we be so sure that we can trust the writers? Or better yet is it all possible the writers were wrong on some things?
 
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Single people are not cursed by God, and you implying they are is a damaging message.
I am not implying that at all. Lesser favor is still favor.
 
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We have to think that God was moving these writers of Scripture to write while under the inspiration of God, and if they were inspired by God to write what they wrote, then they are the very words of God. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 says all Scripture is given by inspiration of God. This would even include the words of what Paul thought on the matters of marriage in 1 Corinthians 7.

For the problem of saying so otherwise is falling into the danger of you being the judge on what is Scripture in God's Word, and what is not Scripture in God's Word. You also have to rip off covers of those bibles that say, "Holy Bible," because you do not regard the whole book as being entirely the holy words of God. It would be the "holey bible" in your view, and not the "Holy Bible."

It would be a butter knife, and not the "Sword of the Spirit."

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And the alternative is to trust the original authors and the people who decided what’s scripture and what isn’t?
 
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Would they still be important if they aren’t supposed to be in there to begin with? How can we be so sure that we can trust the writers? Or better yet is it all possible the writers were wrong on some things?
That is an entirely wrong headed way of looking at scripture.
 
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Once we start making stuff up couldn't anybody do the same?
Exactly.

When some folks say the bible was "inspired" by God, what they really mean is "dictated" based upon what their own made-up definition of "inspiration" is.
 
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Exactly.

When some folks say the bible was "inspired" by God, what they really mean is "dictated" based upon what their own made-up definition of "inspiration" is.

How do you know which definition is "made up" and which one is standard in theology? I assume you lifted your definition from Google or Webster's dictionary. These are not great authorities on definitions of theological terms. The definition I've put forth is not at all unique to me, but is a very standard, orthodox, and historic definition of the doctrine of inspiration.
 
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The Bible would be the original manuscripts of the 66 books in the Protestant canon.

Which original manuscripts? The ones they had at the Council of Nicea? Or the Council of Florence? Or Constantine's list? Or Luthers? Or something else entirely?
 
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Actually, it does NOT have different theologies or worldviews. It is a single unified thought from beginning to end.

Really? Is eating shellfish an abomination, or are all foods clean?
 
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Which original manuscripts? The ones they had at the Council of Nicea? Or the Council of Florence? Or Constantine's list? Or Luthers? Or something else entirely?

The ones that were written by the authors of the books.
 
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Proverbs 18:22
He who finds a wife finds a good thing And obtains favor from the Lord.

IOW, with no wife you lose a measure of favor from the Lord.

Not compatible with the New Testament's preference for celibacy being the most godly option if possible.
 
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Not compatible with the New Testament's preference for celibacy being the most godly option if possible.
IMO that is a distortion of what the NT actually teaches.
 
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The ones that were written by the authors of the books.

Do you have them? I would love to see them.

And which books exactly? Are you including the Apocalypse of Peter for example? Or just the books in the King James translation?
 
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I am not implying that at all. Lesser favor is still favor.

Point taken but it still sounds like the prosperity gospel, honestly. Get married and you're promised happiness? I know for some people, that's just not true.
 
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The Bible is inspired by God. What does this mean?

Simply put - "What the Bible says, God says."

Some say that the Bible is inspired, but they are not comfortable saying that the Bible is the very words of God. They have some looser, stranger view of inspiration.

What the Bible says, God says. Can we give this a hearty "Amen"?

Given that any given Bible is a translation of a translation of a translation, I think that claiming it is the literal word of God would obviously be wrong. I think over 2,000 years and an infinite number of translations, the word of man under the pretense of being from God has absolutely slipped in there.
 
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Really? Is eating shellfish an abomination, or are all foods clean?
It never says shellfish are to be considered "food."
 
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The definition I've put forth is not at all unique to me, but is a very standard, orthodox, and historic definition of the doctrine of inspiration.
Please tell us where you lifted your supposed theological definition of "inspired" from in post #1.
 
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Do you have them? I would love to see them.

We have them in the collections of critical texts known as BHS and Nestle-Aland. You can find faithful translations of these texts in the NASB, ESV, and NIV at your local bookstore.
 
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Please tell us where you lifted your supposed theological definition of "inspired" from in post #1.

I first learned it from my theology professor in seminary, but it is a reflection of Calvin, Berkhof, Hodge, and Frame's definitions of inspiration.
 
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