The Inspiration of Scripture

What the Bible says, God says.


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But when you weigh of evidence and carefully delve into the issues of hermeneutics now we are moving into opinion territory. If we start giving our opinion on scripture it’s very possible we are no longer reading the Bible. Do you have any problem with anybody giving you an opinion on what God meant or better yet do you have a problem being the one given the opinion and filling in the blanks where it’s not so clear? I find it pretty frightening to be the one speaking for God.
The opposite of taking liberty with the text is wooden literalism.

I don't think it opinion that when handling the text you put it in the literary and historical context. For example:

Exegesis and eisegesis are two conflicting approaches in Bible study. Exegesis is the exposition or explanation of a text based on a careful, objective analysis. The word exegesis literally means “to lead out of.” That means that the interpreter is led to his conclusions by following the text.

The opposite approach to Scripture is eisegesis, which is the interpretation of a passage based on a subjective, non-analytical reading. The word eisegesis literally means “to lead into,” which means the interpreter injects his own ideas into the text, making it mean whatever he wants.

Obviously, only exegesis does justice to the text. Eisegesis is a mishandling of the text and often leads to a misinterpretation. Exegesis is concerned with discovering the true meaning of the text, respecting its grammar, syntax, and setting. Eisegesis is concerned only with making a point, even at the expense of the meaning of words.


The process of exegesis involves 1) observation: what does the passage say? 2) interpretation: what does the passage mean? 3) correlation: how does the passage relate to the rest of the Bible? and 4) application: how should this passage affect my life?

Eisegesis, on the other hand, involves 1) imagination: what idea do I want to present? 2) exploration: what Scripture passage seems to fit with my idea? and 3) application: what does my idea mean? Notice that, in eisegesis, there is no examination of the words of the text or their relationship to each other, no cross-referencing with related passages, and no real desire to understand the actual meaning. Scripture serves only as a prop to the interpreter’s idea.

To illustrate, let’s use both approaches in the treatment of one passage:

2 Chronicles 27:1-2
“Jotham was twenty-five years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem sixteen years. . . . He did what was right in the eyes of the LORD, just as his father Uzziah had done, but unlike him he did not enter the temple of the LORD.”

EISEGESIS
First, the interpreter decides on a topic. Today, it’s “The Importance of Church Attendance.” The interpreter reads 2 Chronicles 27:1-2 and sees that King Jotham was a good king, just like his father Uzziah had been, except for one thing: he didn’t go to the temple! This passage seems to fit his idea, so he uses it. The resulting sermon deals with the need for passing on godly values from one generation to the next. Just because King Uzziah went to the temple every week didn’t mean that his son would continue the practice. In the same way, many young people today tragically turn from their parents’ training, and church attendance drops off. The sermon ends with a question: “How many blessings did Jotham fail to receive, simply because he neglected church?”

Certainly, there is nothing wrong with preaching about church attendance or the transmission of values. And a cursory reading of 2 Chronicles 27:1-2 seems to support that passage as an apt illustration. However, the above interpretation is totally wrong. For Jotham not to go to the temple was not wrong; in fact, it was very good, as the proper approach to the passage will show.

EXEGESIS
First, the interpreter reads the passage and, to fully understand the context, he reads the histories of both Uzziah and Jotham (2 Chronicles 26-27; 2 Kings 15:1-6, 32-38). In his observation, he discovers that King Uzziah was a good king who nevertheless disobeyed the Lord when he went to the temple and offered incense on the altar—something only a priest had the right to do (2 Chronicles 26:16-20). Uzziah’s pride and his contamination of the temple resulted in his having “leprosy until the day he died” (2 Chronicles 26:21).

Needing to know why Uzziah spent the rest of his life in isolation, the interpreter studies Leviticus 13:46 and does some research on leprosy. Then he compares the use of illness as a punishment in other passages, such as 2 Kings 5:27; 2 Chronicles 16:12; and 21:12-15.

By this time, the exegete understands something important: when the passage says Jotham “did not enter the temple of the LORD,” it means he did not repeat his father’s mistake. Uzziah had proudly usurped the priest’s office; Jotham was more obedient.

The resulting sermon might deal with the Lord’s discipline of His children, with the blessing of total obedience, or with our need to learn from the mistakes of the past rather than repeat them.

What is the difference between exegesis and eisegesis?
 
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Now you're the one being nitpicky.

God can be said to be the author of all Scripture. But not necessarily the speaker.

So God is the author of Scripture but Scripture is not his words? Help me understand that.
 
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I think I'm more comfortable saying, "What the Bible says, is said with God's authority" or "God speaks through the biblical authors" -- rather than saying all of Scripture is spoken with His voice. This is probably more a nitpicky stylistic or literary thing than a theological thing. In the Old Testament, obviously, God speaks directly in a lot of places, He appearing and speaking as a person, for example when He's speaking to Moses. With the prophets, it's possible to say, "the prophet Jeremiah says," but what the prophet Jeremiah says is appended with "thus sayeth the Lord" -- indicating that it is God speaking through Jeremiah. With other books -- including the New Testament -- they are different literary genres. I don't feel comfortable saying, for example, "God is writing a history," but rather "Luke is writing a history under God's inspiration." Do the words have the inspiration, authenticity, and authority of God? Yes, sure. But is it God speaking as a person or character? No, not really.
A good point.

But because God the Father or Jesus is not the primary speaker, does not mean the words are any less inspired or important.
 
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Is it as simple as saying "The Bible says it. I believe only some of it."?

I believe what's written in Scripture, that doesn't mean I assume it applies to me today.

The Bible says it - but did GOD say, and command, it, or was it Paul, Moses, Peter etc expressing their hopes, or even frustrations?
The Bible says that certain men should go and castrate themselves, Galatians 5:12 - divine command?
The Bible says that women under 60 who are widowed are idle gossipers and deserve no financial assistance from the church, 1 Timothy 5:11-15 - a command for us to obey, or something relevant to Paul's day?
The Bible says that women shouldn't wear gold, 1 Timothy 2:9 - so are we disobeying God when we exchange gold wedding rings in church?
The Bible contains OT law, with its commands to stone anyone who breaks the Sabbath, forbids wearing clothes of mixed fibres etc - God's will for Gentiles in the 21st century?
 
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The gospel is the Word of God, if you don't get that, you don't get the Old Testament. Have a big laugh about it, we are only talking about the inspiration of the Scriptures here. Peace out!
I was talking about the inspiration of Scripture, focusing mainly on references to it in the NT. You don't seem to grasp the implications of what I was saying... or just don't want to face those implications. Regardless, there is nothing left to talk about so why keep replying? And "peace out?" How old are you? I was under the impression I was talking to an adult?
 
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The Bible says it - but did GOD say, and command, it, or was it Paul, Moses, Peter etc expressing their hopes, or even frustrations?
Their views, hopes, frustrations, etc. ARE God's word.

Matthew 18:18
Truly I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven.
 
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"I say (I, not the Lord) that..."
- Paul.
Who is speaking God or Paul?
Both.

When Paul says the opposite (not I but the Lord) Paul is saying that his statement is based on the written Torah. When he says what you quote, it is still from God but not backed up in the OT. It is from the New Revelation he got during his time in the desert.

Both are just as binding and authoritative.
 
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"I say (I, not the Lord) that..."
- Paul.
Who is speaking God or Paul?
If the Bible is God speaking, then that was God telling us what Paul thinks. Is it really different than the quotes of antagonists in the Bible?
 
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I was talking about the inspiration of Scripture, focusing mainly on references to it in the NT. You don't seem to grasp the implications of what I was saying... or just don't want to face those implications. Regardless, there is nothing left to talk about so why keep replying? And "peace out?" How old are you? I was under the impression I was talking to an adult?
Just stop, it's over now.
 
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All Scripture is God breathed or inspired by God. So when the writers wrote down their accounts of real life events, it was God moving through them to write those events in His words that He desired for them to say. A retelling of a real life story in the Bible is God retelling that story through His followers. To say that the words are exclusive to the individuals alone is to look at the Bible through a narrow lens and not through the lens that all the words placed in the Bible are God breathed and meant to be there. To test the truth that the Bible is divinely inspired (or of divine origin), all you have to do is see if there are evidences that back up the Bible to see if it is in fact divine.

In fact, I created a blogger article that lists many evidences that indeed show that the Bible is divine in origin:

Love Branch: Evidences for the Word of God

Anyways, when you read the stories of the Bible, think of it as God retelling you that story. Why? Because God has lessons and things for us to learn from these stories. God teaches with stories, psalms, and other certain truths, etc.
 
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We have to think that God was moving these writers of Scripture to write while under the inspiration of God, and if they were inspired by God to write what they wrote, then they are the very words of God. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 says all Scripture is given by inspiration of God. This would even include the words of what Paul thought on the matters of marriage in 1 Corinthians 7.

For the problem of saying so otherwise is falling into the danger of you being the judge on what is Scripture in God's Word, and what is not Scripture in God's Word. You also have to rip off covers of those bibles that say, "Holy Bible," because you do not regard the whole book as being entirely the holy words of God. It would be the "holey bible" in your view, and not the "Holy Bible."

It would be a butter knife, and not the "Sword of the Spirit."

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Their views, hopes, frustrations, etc. ARE God's word.

Matthew 18:18
Truly I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven.

So God told the Galatians that anyone who taught circumcision should go off and castrate themselves?
 
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Both.

When Paul says the opposite (not I but the Lord) Paul is saying that his statement is based on the written Torah. When he says what you quote, it is still from God but not backed up in the OT. It is from the New Revelation he got during his time in the desert.

Both are just as binding and authoritative.

That would mean that God has said that he doesn't want anyone to get married, 1 Corinthians 7:6-9.
 
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That would mean that God has said that he doesn't want anyone to get married, 1 Corinthians 7:6-9.
that is taking it out of context.

Anything that Jesus said or Paul wrote should NEVER be taken as being in violation of the OT scripture.
 
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