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Hi everyone. I'm sorry to be making yet another negative post on here. I finally feel like I'm able to open up about this to people and not be afraid of being judged or talked down to. It's also the first time I've felt like I've understood the cause of at least some of my anger toward God.

I've shared my story a number of times on here, so a few who will read this will recognize it. I became a Christian in 2015 when I got baptized at the church I go to now, but before I started going there, I was in a church that really did a number on me. They told me God was a monster and that He hated me and that all of the problems in my life were because He was punishing me for my sins for not being good enough. It was two years of spiritual and emotional abuse that almost caused me to take my own life. Before I even ended up there or even thought about having a life with God, I grew up in a dysfunctional home where there was domestic violence and child abuse perpetrated on me at the hands of my angry, narcissistic father, which I now see lead me to stay in that horrible church for as long as I did.

God called me into what He wanted me to do and to this day, I can't deny that it was Him who called and confirmed it. I accepted the call and while I was still in that church, He was working to make things ready for me to step into it, like when God was leading Israel through the desert toward Canaan. Finally, the day came when it was time and getting baptized was a part of that because two things happened....I saw God for who He really was and that He loved me and had an amazing plan for me...He put everything into place so perfectly that it was like living in Eden....but despite all of this, I was still afraid and still doubted after what I'd been through in my life leading up to all of that and there were still a lot of things that I hadn't learned yet...

I made a choice to do something that I was desperate not to do, but forced myself to do because I thought it was scriptural and what God wanted me to do...one of the things that God made possible when He confirmed and was preparing me to step into what He wanted for me was making a way for me to go back to college...the church I had been in taught me that student loans were sinful and that if I sinned and took them out, God would punish me and for whatever reason, I believed it. I made the decision to stay working at a job that paid really well, but wasn't compatible at all with my school schedule because I thought God was telling me that if I wanted to be righteous and walk worthy and get to keep all that He put in front of me, doing this was what I had to do. So many other Christians, even in my new church, were pleased with me for doing what I did...but inside, there was this burning desire on my heart to leave. I tried to ignore it because I thought it was temptation and if I gave into it, then I would be sinning and failing to practice self-denial the way God commanded me to and if I sinned, I'd face His anger and discipline. I had an image in my head of God's discipline being that He would take everything away from me and make my life 10x as bad as it had been when I was in my old church, and out of fear of ending up back there again, I ignored the desire on my heart to leave that job so I could focus on school. Keep in mind, I DID NOT want to do this and the only reason I forced myself to do it was because I thought it would please God....and I thought that way because I had never been shown grace or mercy or unconditional love from ANYONE before in my life and didn't understand what it was...

I finally did realize that the desire to quit my job was coming from God and did, but it was too late and I know that I missed the door that He opened for me. He slammed it shut and took EVERYTHING away from me....we were once so close that all I had to do was GLANCE at a scripture and I understood it's meaning. He spoke to me ALL the time. I was happy, I had His joy and knew that He loved me...not to mention all of the physical and spiritual blessings....all of it is gone now because He took it away from me...

He knew that I only did what I did because I wanted to make sure that I was doing what was right and was walking as close to biblical perfection as I could get, because I know that was what He wants from us. I wanted to be the best Christian I could and go above and beyond for Him and at the same time, there was still a lot that needed to be worked out of me and lies that needed to be undone and thought that if I did things that He didn't ask me to do, He would be pleased...in essence, at the time I was still in the mentality of works and trying to earn brownie points with God, but I didn't realize I was even doing it. I loved God and wanted to obey Him and please Him...and I feel betrayed by God because despite knowing that these were my motives for doing what I did, He still did exactly what I was afraid He would do if I made a wrong move and took all of that for myself and not only did He take everything away from me, but He has made my life 10x as bad as it was when I was in my old church. Everything that I did, I did because I was trying to avoid having this happen to me and walk in righteousness, but God still made sure that it happened to me anyway and He is still disciplining/punishing me for what I did all that time ago...I'm angry and hurt and don't feel like I could ever "forgive" Him for doing what He did and I also don't understand how what I did was so bad that God decided that this was the best outcome to deal with it, and I don't think it was...I meant no evil...I just wanted to make sure that I was being as obedient to scripture as possible, as pleasing to Him as possible and that I wasn't going to end up being deceived again the way I was in my old church.

God showed me a little over a year ago that I did it because I didn't believe I was good enough to have what He wanted for me without doing something to earn it through suffering and that everything He gave me was something I'd earned through suffering all that I'd been through in my life...and I don't understand how God could do this to me knowing my history and why I did it...I don't understand why that was bad in God's eyes that He had to do this....I believe that God was wrong in doing what He did to me, that it was unjust and, ashamedly, that He owes it to me to make up for how badly He has hurt me by giving me back what got taken away and giving me another chance at it...

Guys, I only ask that in reading this, no one would judge me or slam me with rude remarks the way a lot of other Christians that I've talked about this with have. I don't need condesencion, I don't need to be ripped apart and I don't need to be talked down to and "told off" or told to "get over it" right now...please, I've had enough of that. God gave me the best thing to ever happen to me and then yanked it away to punish me for not doing what He wanted and I also hate myself every single day for choosing to do that, because I really didn't want to. I was afraid of what might happen if I didn't and I feel like God just does not accept that from me either...it's like reaching out for help when someone is hurting you and no one wants to listen...I know I made a choice and I know that I did exactly what Israel did in Numbers 14 and rejected God's plan...but I meant no evil in doing that, no unbelief and no sin and only wanted to do what was good, and God doesn't accept my plea even though I tell Him that this is why constantly. I wish more than anything that I hadn't and that God would say, "it's okay, I know you didn't mean to or want to. I don't fault you and I want to give you another shot at having what I wanted to give you. You didn't do anything wrong...".
 

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It's true though, no one wants to listen, they want to cut you off so they are not triggered in a bad way. God forbid anyone ruin their enjoyment of this beautiful day.

Currently a lot of dark stuff is spewing out of my bones, just waiting for it to pass. It's not me, I just absorbed it in the presence of others.

A lot of this inner forgiving people for not being like Jesus is totally a solitary activity, at least that's what i've noticed.

One thing I've needed to learn is to trust God is who He is, even if no one else cares. Jesus was alone when He died, there is none like Him.

God bless.
 
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Sister your story isn't to different to most it's not god who has let you down it's the people around you remember every morning you get up you can change your own life and everyone elses for the good ......me I start the day with saying goodmorning to a stranger or letting someone go first in the line .....and I rack it up it sounds crazy but the feedback you get is amazing
 
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I think you are confusing your feelings, the emotional turmoil caused by a deeply legalistic church setting, and circumstances with God's Will / thoughts on the matter.

Bad experiences with theologically confused people can do harm to our spiritual lives, cause us to see God as something He is not, and leave us second-guessing almost everything.

Take a few steps back. Start with prayer, and the New Testament. Start with just doing your best to follow Christ, and love your neighbor.
 
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Thanks, everyone. I feel like the point of my post is being missed though: God didn't have to take everything away from me that He promised just because I made an error in judgment trying to do good. God didn't have to respond the way that He did, because it seems that the punishment I received for what I did went far beyond what it should have. God didn't have to add to my pain when He knew the pain I'd been through in life already and even allowed/planned for it to happen...but He did it anyway and I'm so hurt by the way that He chose to handle this that I don't think I can ever accept it or love Him again. I'd give anything to go back to four years ago and not do the things that I did and I wish God would give me a second chance at everything He took away...He shouldn't have done that and I don't think what I did was bad enough for Him to respond that way. I meant no evil, God knows the intentions of our heart....why did He do this to me knowing all of these things?
 
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Hi everyone. I'm sorry to be making yet another negative post on here. I finally feel like I'm able to open up about this to people and not be afraid of being judged or talked down to. It's also the first time I've felt like I've understood the cause of at least some of my anger toward God.

I've shared my story a number of times on here, so a few who will read this will recognize it. I became a Christian in 2015 when I got baptized at the church I go to now, but before I started going there, I was in a church that really did a number on me. They told me God was a monster and that He hated me and that all of the problems in my life were because He was punishing me for my sins for not being good enough. It was two years of spiritual and emotional abuse that almost caused me to take my own life. Before I even ended up there or even thought about having a life with God, I grew up in a dysfunctional home where there was domestic violence and child abuse perpetrated on me at the hands of my angry, narcissistic father, which I now see lead me to stay in that horrible church for as long as I did.

God called me into what He wanted me to do and to this day, I can't deny that it was Him who called and confirmed it. I accepted the call and while I was still in that church, He was working to make things ready for me to step into it, like when God was leading Israel through the desert toward Canaan. Finally, the day came when it was time and getting baptized was a part of that because two things happened....I saw God for who He really was and that He loved me and had an amazing plan for me...He put everything into place so perfectly that it was like living in Eden....but despite all of this, I was still afraid and still doubted after what I'd been through in my life leading up to all of that and there were still a lot of things that I hadn't learned yet...

I made a choice to do something that I was desperate not to do, but forced myself to do because I thought it was scriptural and what God wanted me to do...one of the things that God made possible when He confirmed and was preparing me to step into what He wanted for me was making a way for me to go back to college...the church I had been in taught me that student loans were sinful and that if I sinned and took them out, God would punish me and for whatever reason, I believed it. I made the decision to stay working at a job that paid really well, but wasn't compatible at all with my school schedule because I thought God was telling me that if I wanted to be righteous and walk worthy and get to keep all that He put in front of me, doing this was what I had to do. So many other Christians, even in my new church, were pleased with me for doing what I did...but inside, there was this burning desire on my heart to leave. I tried to ignore it because I thought it was temptation and if I gave into it, then I would be sinning and failing to practice self-denial the way God commanded me to and if I sinned, I'd face His anger and discipline. I had an image in my head of God's discipline being that He would take everything away from me and make my life 10x as bad as it had been when I was in my old church, and out of fear of ending up back there again, I ignored the desire on my heart to leave that job so I could focus on school. Keep in mind, I DID NOT want to do this and the only reason I forced myself to do it was because I thought it would please God....and I thought that way because I had never been shown grace or mercy or unconditional love from ANYONE before in my life and didn't understand what it was...

I finally did realize that the desire to quit my job was coming from God and did, but it was too late and I know that I missed the door that He opened for me. He slammed it shut and took EVERYTHING away from me....we were once so close that all I had to do was GLANCE at a scripture and I understood it's meaning. He spoke to me ALL the time. I was happy, I had His joy and knew that He loved me...not to mention all of the physical and spiritual blessings....all of it is gone now because He took it away from me...

He knew that I only did what I did because I wanted to make sure that I was doing what was right and was walking as close to biblical perfection as I could get, because I know that was what He wants from us. I wanted to be the best Christian I could and go above and beyond for Him and at the same time, there was still a lot that needed to be worked out of me and lies that needed to be undone and thought that if I did things that He didn't ask me to do, He would be pleased...in essence, at the time I was still in the mentality of works and trying to earn brownie points with God, but I didn't realize I was even doing it. I loved God and wanted to obey Him and please Him...and I feel betrayed by God because despite knowing that these were my motives for doing what I did, He still did exactly what I was afraid He would do if I made a wrong move and took all of that for myself and not only did He take everything away from me, but He has made my life 10x as bad as it was when I was in my old church. Everything that I did, I did because I was trying to avoid having this happen to me and walk in righteousness, but God still made sure that it happened to me anyway and He is still disciplining/punishing me for what I did all that time ago...I'm angry and hurt and don't feel like I could ever "forgive" Him for doing what He did and I also don't understand how what I did was so bad that God decided that this was the best outcome to deal with it, and I don't think it was...I meant no evil...I just wanted to make sure that I was being as obedient to scripture as possible, as pleasing to Him as possible and that I wasn't going to end up being deceived again the way I was in my old church.

God showed me a little over a year ago that I did it because I didn't believe I was good enough to have what He wanted for me without doing something to earn it through suffering and that everything He gave me was something I'd earned through suffering all that I'd been through in my life...and I don't understand how God could do this to me knowing my history and why I did it...I don't understand why that was bad in God's eyes that He had to do this....I believe that God was wrong in doing what He did to me, that it was unjust and, ashamedly, that He owes it to me to make up for how badly He has hurt me by giving me back what got taken away and giving me another chance at it...

Guys, I only ask that in reading this, no one would judge me or slam me with rude remarks the way a lot of other Christians that I've talked about this with have. I don't need condesencion, I don't need to be ripped apart and I don't need to be talked down to and "told off" or told to "get over it" right now...please, I've had enough of that. God gave me the best thing to ever happen to me and then yanked it away to punish me for not doing what He wanted and I also hate myself every single day for choosing to do that, because I really didn't want to. I was afraid of what might happen if I didn't and I feel like God just does not accept that from me either...it's like reaching out for help when someone is hurting you and no one wants to listen...I know I made a choice and I know that I did exactly what Israel did in Numbers 14 and rejected God's plan...but I meant no evil in doing that, no unbelief and no sin and only wanted to do what was good, and God doesn't accept my plea even though I tell Him that this is why constantly. I wish more than anything that I hadn't and that God would say, "it's okay, I know you didn't mean to or want to. I don't fault you and I want to give you another shot at having what I wanted to give you. You didn't do anything wrong...".
You have said that you wish God would say to you that everything is okay. I think He has. Jesus said that He did not come into the world to condemn the world, but to save sinners (John 3:17). This is what God did for you, and He would have done the same if you were the only person He could do it for. He sent His only Son into the world to show what He was really like, and Jesus went around doing good, healing the sick, the broken hearted, and all those oppressed of the devil. Then He died on the cross to be your substitute, to take all your sins upon Himself and to save you from having to pay the penalty for your sins. When you receive Christ as your Saviour (if you haven't done so already) then this is who you become when you are born again of the Spirit of God:
You become God's child - a member of His family
You are fully accepted by God
All your sins are forgiven and you are totally cleansed
Your sins are remembered no more
You become a whole new person in Christ
The devil can no longer touch you
Jesus is not ashamed to call you His sister
All the old things in your life have passed away and all things have become new.
You are seated with Christ at the right hand of God
You are blessed with every heavenly blessing
God will give you your heart's desires when you ask Him
Jesus is closer to you than a brother
The Holy Spirit is not just with you, He is in you.
You have eternal life.
There is a mansion in heaven waiting for you
Instead of being judged for your sins, you will be rewarded by Christ for the good things you have done in your life.
He is giving you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him
If you lack wisdom, all you have to do is to ask Him, and He will give it to you.

These are the things that God has done in and for you as a result of your faith in Christ. This is what God thinks of you:
"For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end" (Jeremiah 29:11).
 
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Thanks, everyone. I feel like the point of my post is being missed though: God didn't have to take everything away from me that He promised just because I made an error in judgment trying to do good. God didn't have to respond the way that He did, because it seems that the punishment I received for what I did went far beyond what it should have. God didn't have to add to my pain when He knew the pain I'd been through in life already and even allowed/planned for it to happen...but He did it anyway and I'm so hurt by the way that He chose to handle this that I don't think I can ever accept it or love Him again. I'd give anything to go back to four years ago and not do the things that I did and I wish God would give me a second chance at everything He took away...He shouldn't have done that and I don't think what I did was bad enough for Him to respond that way. I meant no evil, God knows the intentions of our heart....why did He do this to me knowing all of these things?
This may sound unhelpful, but it's deeply true. Sometimes God allows us to walk into something, then wrenches it away from us. I have experienced this myself. The fallout is extremely, undeniably painful and tough.

In the end, though, we both learn that what we had wanted may not have been God's Will for us, and have been brought out of something which could have hurt us in the long run, had He allowed us to continue on.

Even when we don't get what we want and are in deep and terrible pain, can we still love Him? Can we follow Christ? We can. We must be honest with God about our sorrow, disappointment, doubts, and anger, and ask for His grace to help us move on, in His Will.
 
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This may sound unhelpful, but it's deeply true. Sometimes God allows us to walk into something, then wrenches it away from us. I have experienced this myself. The fallout is extremely, undeniably painful and tough.

In the end, though, we both learn that what we had wanted may not have been God's Will for us, and have been brought out of something which could have hurt us in the long run, had He allowed us to continue on.

Even when we don't get what we want and are in deep and terrible pain, can we still love Him? Can we follow Christ? We can. We must be honest with God about our sorrow, disappointment, doubts, and anger, and ask for His grace to help us move on, in His Will.


This is a truth that I am very well aware of, however, I am confident that what God wanted to give me back there was actually what He wanted for me, for several reasons.

I used to be a musician and before I became a believer, I wanted to be a music teacher. I started college and right around the time I did was when God was zeroing in on me and putting things into place so that I would become a believer. The thing that He used to finally get me to come to Him was arranging things so that I couldn't go back to school the following year and finish my degree, and that was the first step into trying to find Him. I went into the church I was in for those first two awful years soon after and somehow came to the conclusion that "self-denial" was basically not letting myself have ANYTHING that gave me any kind of pleasure, because for me to experience pleasure as a sinful being meant that every time something made me happy or anything other than sad, it was sinful and I was sinning by enjoying it. During this time I was also able to get to the point where I was genuinely able to tell God that I didn't want whatever it was He didn't want for me and that I was willing to give up whatever it was He wanted me to....and then, the more that I prayed this prayer, the more a new desire started to pop up....

I started to really want to go back to school and finish my music degree, but not as a teacher...I wanted to go on to be in an orchestra and teach college...but I kept pushing that desire away because again, I thought that because I wanted to do it, it was sinful...but the more I pushed it away and the more that I prayed for God to make me want what He really wanted for me (I thought I was supposed to be a photographer...something that I hated doing and I kept praying for Him to make me want to do it even though the more I prayed for it, the more I hated doing it), the more I wanted to do this thing with music...the more I denied it, the more I wanted it. I kept telling God, "I know You don't want this for me and I think this desire that keeps popping up is Satanic temptation and it won't go away...". One night, I was finally so distressed from trying to deny it, that I prayed and asked God that if this was what He really wanted me to do and if this desire was coming from Him, to confirm it to me in a way that I couldn't deny was Him speaking to me...I got my confirmation the next day, February 22, 2014.

God immediately started to make things happen to where I could pursue it. The next school year, I was working 32 hours a week at the job I started at when I had to leave school, but He made it possible for me to go back to the university I had been at as part time student, taking a few classes to make up some credits I was missing before I officially changed majors. I passed all of them, including a really challenging class that I needed to be able to take the next course in the series (music theory), a refund check leftover from taxes gave me just enough money to buy two professional model instruments that I would need (upgrading from the ones I had in high school and started college with, which were sub par) and by the end of that summer, I had enough money saved up to be able to pay for the fall semester all in cash...God provided everything I needed in order to be able to walk in all of that...but I still couldn't let go of the idea that student loan debt was sinful...

I was afraid that if I didn't have cash for the whole school year upfront, then God would see it as sinful disobedience and punish me for it by taking it all away, and I was terrified of that happening. I stayed at my job even though the hours didn't work with school as much as I needed them to because I didn't want to put myself in the position where I would have to take out debt or even risk it because I thought God would punish me for it...I wanted to remove myself as far away from sin or even anything that could open the door to it and believed that this was what God commanded of me...and just like with the desire to even pursue this in the first place, God did the opposite of what I thought He would do and kept putting it on my heart to leave that job and just go to school, but at the time I didn't realize it or believe that He could actually be telling me to do that. One of the things that God showed me when I left my old church was that I had been deceived and after that was shown to me, I was hyper-questioning and second guessing everything and absolutely did not trust myself to be able to interpret this situation correctly, so I kept refusing to enter into what He wanted me to do even though I didn't want to make the choices I was making...then, it was too late.

God closed those doors and took everything away from me so that I could never enter, like how He kicked Adam and Eve out of Eden...the thing that gets me is, God knew that deep down, I really wanted to do His will and enter into that and I didn't want to do what I ended up doing, but that I did it because I wanted to make sure I wasn't sinning against Him and walking in righteousness and walking worthy of what I'd been called to. And based on that, I don't think He should have taken all of that away and accepted my "no" for an answer...it wasn't until about a year ago that God opened up my eyes randomly one day and showed me the real reason why I ran away from the opportunity that He gave me....

"You did what you did because you thought you weren't good enough to have what I wanted to give you. You didn't understand grace and thought that you had to measure up before you could have it, that you earned it all through suffering everything that you had suffered through all your life and that you had to keep earning it by doing works, like being debt free...". I passed it up because I was afraid that He would "wise up" and realize that I wasn't good enough for it, realize that He made a mistake in giving it to me and if I took it, that I'd taken something that I wasn't worthy of and didn't have a right to take, like I'd stolen it and taken it dishonestly. Then, He would find fault with me, take it all away, punish me for my wrongdoing and then reject me...and after all I've been through in life, I didn't want to be rejected again by my Heavenly Father the way my earthly father had...

I would give anything for another chance at that exact opportunity...God didn't have to close that door and accept my "no"...He didn't have to take it away from me because He knew that I didn't really mean that I didn't want it and didn't want to reject it...and I'm mad at Him for it...where was the compassion and the mercy in what He did? Where was the understanding that I did what I did and thought the way that I did only because I'd been allowed to suffer through horrible abuse all my life up until then and had no concept of unconditional love or grace and as a result, was slow to learn and understand and couldn't believe perfectly the way He wanted me to? Where was the wiggle room? Nowhere to be found for me...
 
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A number of years ago, I almost joined a conservative Mennonite group.

Everything lined up perfectly; a chance meeting with a preacher's wife, my husband giving me the green light to go, a wonderful community of Christians who were truly full of grace and kindness, and even new friends; and it is not easy for me to make friends. At all.

My husband agreed to let us keep going, praised the group often, and it finally felt like I had found Home. I was elated, and thankful.

Then, horribly, God yanked me out of that beautiful community full of dear, prayerful people, good friends, and a Christian home. It was gut-wrenching, and awful. I cried for days, weeks, and felt like a complete failure.

Why would God allow us to get in 90% of the way, only to yank us out, causing so much pain, confusion, and grief? Why let me meet that preacher's wife? Why time everything so beautifully? I don't know.

I do know that in the sadness and emptiness in the wake of a terribly difficult break-up between myself and dozens of people who I loved, God did something for me. And maybe for them. I don't know what. I know that knowing His Will can be something of a great, dark mystery at times, or feel like it.

I do know that since then, I have had no home. But I will do my best to follow Christ, in spite of being alone, in spite of having my dreams dashed 10,000 times. I will try to look to Him, and follow Him, no matter what, even if it hurts terribly, and I don't understand why.
 
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I should also add that as I came out of this group, I was given the chance to focus more deeply on issues that had troubled me theologically for many years. And begin to find answers that I would not, could not have found among the Mennonites, awesome and good as they were. And as terrible as it was to leave them.

God does not always do things the way we want Him to. Sometimes, His ways are exceedingly painful to us. But, we can love Him anyway.
 
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I was just thinking this morning that I'm terrified to come back to God and try to patch things up with Him. I'm afraid that if I let my guard down and allow Him to retake control of my life that He will make it as painful and terrifying and heartbreaking as the trials of Job...hardship after hardship and trial after trial with no end in sight...that I will spend the rest of my life crying and being crushed, blow after blow after blow...and God will still expect me to revere Him just as much as I revered Him before all of these terrible things happened no matter how unbearable the pain will get or how disappointing things might turn out to be. I am sure that this is going to happen and God will never allow or want my life to be as peaceful as it was in the beginning, or as blessed...and I'm terrified and want to keep running because this is exactly what I expect. The thought is already crushing me with pain...
 
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