Would you "beg to differ"

My advice is don't bow to no human if you feel they are bent ......if your some Muppet who jumps in a fire because your told well be prepared to get your feet burned ....me I just throw them in it

Spiritually, we have only one leader.

The rest of leaders is subjected to our best judgement.

visionary said:

We could take this thread into the catholic papacy and bishop deeds but that is not the purpose of this thread. If you wish to continue a thread in this direction, start a thread in an area of CF where it is safe for both of us to comment on the other's faith leaders and their deeds.

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Lol . Sorry brother even though I have Catholic on my badge I identify as a believer in Christ I'll butt out

we are not to bow to no man.

visionary said:

If your spiritual leader crossed a line you would not have, would you concede and bow to their standard?
Israeli rabbi says meat from cloned pigs is kosher

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My Spiritual Leader is Jesus Christ, who cleansed all foods by shedding His Blood and now gives His followers freedom to eat all foods that Moses forbid if done with thankfulness to God. (Acts 10:9-16).

If a man on earth tried to get me to eat foods sacrificed to idols, I would not do it for the sake of that man's conscious, but I would still know that Christ Jesus makes all foods clean.

Just as He says "it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person." Matthew 15:11-20

Jonathan Mathews said:

My Spiritual Leader is Jesus Christ, who cleansed all foods by shedding His Blood and now gives His followers freedom to eat all foods that Moses forbid if done with thankfulness to God. (Acts 10:9-16).

If a man on earth tried to get me to eat foods sacrificed to idols, I would not do it for the sake of that man's conscious, but I would still know that Christ Jesus makes all foods clean.

Just as He says "it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person." Matthew 15:11-20

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Amen brother

visionary said:

I was hoping this thread would go in the direction of "kosher" and all the varients regarding one's diet and this Rabbi's decision.

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Might be worth you changing the way you asked the question.

Jonathan Mathews said:

Just as He says "it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person." Matthew 15:11-20

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That scripture was about eating with un-washed hands...

Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked, “Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don’t wash their hands before they eat!

visionary said:

If your spiritual leader crossed a line you would not have, would you concede and bow to their standard?
Israeli rabbi says meat from cloned pigs is kosher

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Visionary I did read some of the article. Rabbi Cherlow says that when the pig cell is used and produced from the genetic material. The cell does lose its actual identity thus making cloned pigs very pig friendly for Jewish consumption How true that is I do not know. Maybe it’s like artificial flavouring to some degree. Take rum balls for a example which are still most delicious either way. Perhaps other Rabbi might look down apon the process. For it may tempt others to indulge in the real thing like at the Hogs breathe cafe

Visionary cannibalism does occur. But generally only when starvation is at the door the choice being either Eat or Die. As was the case in China with the 3 yr famine from 1959 to 62. Where it is said that some 15-45 million people perished. Yes the deed was done. All dietary laws and all laws of human decency did cease to exist. Whether humans taste like pigs or chickens I do not know but I shall research. That being said I’m sure there are many sheep loving rabbi that do abide with the old and not the pig. Be that genetically modified or natural. Yours Kate

visionary said:

He used the excuse that the law reads chewing cud and split hoof and that pig cell is a genetic process that takes the qualifiers out of the equation, thus it is made kosher. I question that. Is that the only reason God disqualified pig meat? Did you know that pig meat takes like human flesh?

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Yeah, it is still a pig...

Yeshua HaDerekh said:

That scripture was about eating with un-washed hands...

Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked, “Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don’t wash their hands before they eat!

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And consider also who is accusing The tzadik of having unwashed hands.

visionary said:

If your spiritual leader crossed a line you would not have, would you concede and bow to their standard?
Israeli rabbi says meat from cloned pigs is kosher

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Heheh,

Isn't that like saying the lake of fire is kosher.

Silly luciferian filth don't even realize how out numbered they are.

visionary said:

You are in the wrong thread to be spouting something against our faith.

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Lioness,

Remember to be gentle

Jonathan Mathews said:

My Spiritual Leader is Jesus Christ, who cleansed all foods by shedding His Blood

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Not really. That is a bad exegesis.