OSAS AND MY WALK WITH THE GOD OF GRACE

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i have been saved for twenty years and looking back over that time i am thankful for every minute of it. when i was not looking for Jesus he was the one who pursued me and overtook me with his love. Christ saved me out of my debauchery for i was the one sitting at the foot of the tree of good and evil and eating the fruit that was forbidden. i did not choose him he choose me (john 15:16).

my walk with Jesus started of in grace and the fruit of that walk was becoming more and more evident. the fruit i was experiencing had power and was effecting real change for God because my view of the lord was correct (1 john 4:19 ). Christ was using me but over time something began to change in my mind. my understanding that deep understanding of Gods grace had not been rooted in me yet. i began to adopt the mentality that the gift of righteousness/salvation was to great that i must do something in the way of self works to truly be righteous. how can a man who could not save himself by his best attempts to earn salvation lose the gift of salvation by not perfectly performing ''good works'' for righteousness unto salvation. but this began to become my mentality.

so i went on a journey for about 10 years and praise God for it. i began to do ''good works'' not the ones Christ calls us to do through faith while trusting in him but selfish works by my own strength in an attempt to prove something to God (galatians 2:20). now if i do works to fulfill the law the law is what is expected of me (james 2:10). as i began to work through the law/works mentality i noticed something begin to happen, sin began to grow and become more and more of an issue. why? because i was trusting in myself and my ability to keep the law and not Christs finished work on the cross regarding my salvation/righteousness. under the law/works mindset sin took control of me in a greater way then before inappropriate content,bitterness,lust,anger ect.. i was experiencing perceived rejection from God even know he was not rejecting me i was perceiving it and rejections gives sin strength.

this was very confusing because i knew i was Gods son. Jesus was still talking to me,loving me,correcting me, causing me to weep at his presence when he would visit me ect... the Lord would allow me to minister still though it was limited due to the fact that he wanted to protect his children from my preaching of law/grace mix. i began to become very angry with the Lord due to there being something just not right so that perception of rejection caused me to rebel. i began to become aggressive with Jesus i ripped a bible in half and told him what i thought about him along with other acts of anger and frustration towards him. through all that God still loved me as a son. now the relationship was not healthy due to me but he was relentless on his end towards me by showing me grace and mercy. Christ told us to love our enemies and at that time i was his enemy and he loved me.

now being the good pharisee i was i decided to double down on my attempts to fulfill the law/works mentality i had. i preface what i'm about to say with this. all works done in the law are nothing but dirty rags in the eyes of God and those works only harm you further as they did with me and my walk with God. if they are not done understanding Christ is the one who paid the price and not me with a hearts position of receiving his grace they are dead. so in my attempt to please God i fast 40 days 40 nights liquids only 3 times over the course of four years i fasted 37 days, 21 days and countless other smaller fasts. i gave away 70,000 dollars, volunteered for everything i could food ministry,street evangelism,taught classes, ect... and all i got was more frustrated. now those works are good works when resting in Christ and his sacrifice but if done to earn anything from God they are dead and pointless. i felt led of the Lord to add all that to say this God just resisted me even more not in his love because through all this my standing was one of righteousness by his blood but in my peace joy fellowship ect.... any work done to earn salvation God will resist (james 4:1-10) but he doubles down and gives more grace/love this i know.

I WILL NEVER LEAVE YOU NOR FORSAKE YOU
after all of this my actions,my sins,my anger,my disregard for him he remained faithful he remained in control and he kept his position as Lord and God (2 timothy 2:13). you see all this had one point and it was not to punish me or to cast me away it was to lift me up so i could bare fruit. it was to break me in a good way in a loving fathers way. because that is what the law does it breaks those who try to fulfill it (galatians 3:1-5). seeing how God is good all the time and his intentions are good towards his own it was all love even know i was not so loving.

having gone through this section of my walk with the great master now his grace is rooted and i have returned to my first love with that deep understanding of grace i lacked before. to try to earn anything from God by works in order to make ones self righteous will cause your life to fall apart. why? because everything we have from God is a gift everything our righteousness in him is because of him. when Christ fulfilled the law and said it is finished he meant it. it is finished! our sin was paid for past present and future that day on the cross the price of the law was atoned once and for all by our high priest Jesus Christ. no matter how mired down you become he will always leave the 99 and come recklessly pursuing you with his love why? because he loves you because he gave up himself so you would not as a child of God have to go through it. Jesus has placed who he is within you and he can not deny himself. what a great God he is the one who is and who was and who is to come. hallelujah thank you Jesus.

Jesus is the God of grace and grace alone. he has given us salvation and has made us righteous because he has fulfilled the law and we are not required to, nor even to try.
 

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Why did you work so hard?
We should learn to listen to the voice of God.
What are these works anyway?
I believe in works...we're called to do them.
But WHAT works?
This is between you and God and when you do works for God you don't become tired or angry.
You feel free and happy to help out here on this earth.
I wonder what the difference is between you and me.
 
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i have been saved for twenty years and looking back over that time i am thankful for every minute of it. when i was not looking for Jesus he was the one who pursued me and overtook me with his love. Christ saved me out of my debauchery for i was the one sitting at the foot of the tree of good and evil and eating the fruit that was forbidden. i did not choose him he choose me (john 15:16).

my walk with Jesus started of in grace and the fruit of that walk was becoming more and more evident. the fruit i was experiencing had power and was effecting real change for God because my view of the lord was correct (1 john 4:19 ). Christ was using me but over time something began to change in my mind. my understanding that deep understanding of Gods grace had not been rooted in me yet. i began to adopt the mentality that the gift of righteousness/salvation was to great that i must do something in the way of self works to truly be righteous. how can a man who could not save himself by his best attempts to earn salvation lose the gift of salvation by not perfectly performing ''good works'' for righteousness unto salvation. but this began to become my mentality.

so i went on a journey for about 10 years and praise God for it. i began to do ''good works'' not the ones Christ calls us to do through faith while trusting in him but selfish works by my own strength in an attempt to prove something to God (galatians 2:20). now if i do works to fulfill the law the law is what is expected of me (james 2:10). as i began to work through the law/works mentality i noticed something begin to happen, sin began to grow and become more and more of an issue. why? because i was trusting in myself and my ability to keep the law and not Christs finished work on the cross regarding my salvation/righteousness. under the law/works mindset sin took control of me in a greater way then before inappropriate content,bitterness,lust,anger ect.. i was experiencing perceived rejection from God even know he was not rejecting me i was perceiving it and rejections gives sin strength.

this was very confusing because i knew i was Gods son. Jesus was still talking to me,loving me,correcting me, causing me to weep at his presence when he would visit me ect... the Lord would allow me to minister still though it was limited due to the fact that he wanted to protect his children from my preaching of law/grace mix. i began to become very angry with the Lord due to there being something just not right so that perception of rejection caused me to rebel. i began to become aggressive with Jesus i ripped a bible in half and told him what i thought about him along with other acts of anger and frustration towards him. through all that God still loved me as a son. now the relationship was not healthy due to me but he was relentless on his end towards me by showing me grace and mercy. Christ told us to love our enemies and at that time i was his enemy and he loved me.

now being the good pharisee i was i decided to double down on my attempts to fulfill the law/works mentality i had. i preface what i'm about to say with this. all works done in the law are nothing but dirty rags in the eyes of God and those works only harm you further as they did with me and my walk with God. if they are not done understanding Christ is the one who paid the price and not me with a hearts position of receiving his grace they are dead. so in my attempt to please God i fast 40 days 40 nights liquids only 3 times over the course of four years i fasted 37 days, 21 days and countless other smaller fasts. i gave away 70,000 dollars, volunteered for everything i could food ministry,street evangelism,taught classes, ect... and all i got was more frustrated. now those works are good works when resting in Christ and his sacrifice but if done to earn anything from God they are dead and pointless. i felt led of the Lord to add all that to say this God just resisted me even more not in his love because through all this my standing was one of righteousness by his blood but in my peace joy fellowship ect.... any work done to earn salvation God will resist (james 4:1-10) but he doubles down and gives more grace/love this i know.

I WILL NEVER LEAVE YOU NOR FORSAKE YOU
after all of this my actions,my sins,my anger,my disregard for him he remained faithful he remained in control and he kept his position as Lord and God (2 timothy 2:13). you see all this had one point and it was not to punish me or to cast me away it was to lift me up so i could bare fruit. it was to break me in a good way in a loving fathers way. because that is what the law does it breaks those who try to fulfill it (galatians 3:1-5). seeing how God is good all the time and his intentions are good towards his own it was all love even know i was not so loving.

having gone through this section of my walk with the great master now his grace is rooted and i have returned to my first love with that deep understanding of grace i lacked before. to try to earn anything from God by works in order to make ones self righteous will cause your life to fall apart. why? because everything we have from God is a gift everything our righteousness in him is because of him. when Christ fulfilled the law and said it is finished he meant it. it is finished! our sin was paid for past present and future that day on the cross the price of the law was atoned once and for all by our high priest Jesus Christ. no matter how mired down you become he will always leave the 99 and come recklessly pursuing you with his love why? because he loves you because he gave up himself so you would not as a child of God have to go through it. Jesus has placed who he is within you and he can not deny himself. what a great God he is the one who is and who was and who is to come. hallelujah thank you Jesus.

Jesus is the God of grace and grace alone. he has given us salvation and has made us righteous because he has fulfilled the law and we are not required to, nor even to try.
I prefer to use the term Eternal Security that way people don't think that you can just say a prayer without any intention of repenting and then you're automatically saved. This doctrine though is something I've recently adopted this year and well to be honest I'd have to say that it has completely transformed my faith walk and brought me closer to a loving God.
 
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I prefer to use the term Eternal Security that way people don't think that you can just say a prayer without any intention of repenting and then you're automatically saved. This doctrine though is something I've recently adopted this year and well to be honest I'd have to say that it has completely transformed my faith walk and brought me closer to a loving God.
Hi R,
Which doctrine has brought you closer to God?
I'd have to agree about the term E.S.
I dislike OSAS because it makes it seem like one could do anything and still be saved...which is not true.
 
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Why did you work so hard?
We should learn to listen to the voice of God.
What are these works anyway?
I believe in works...we're called to do them.
But WHAT works?
This is between you and God and when you do works for God you don't become tired or angry.
You feel free and happy to help out here on this earth.
I wonder what the difference is between you and me.

Ephesians 2:8-9 King James Version (KJV)
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
 
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Ephesians 2:8-9 King James Version (KJV)
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
LOL
You forgot verse 10...
 
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Ephesians 2:8-9 King James Version (KJV)
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Paul warns these same children of God in chapter 5

“Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children; and walk in love, just as Christ also loved you and gave Himself up for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God as a fragrant aroma. But immorality or any impurity or greed must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints; and there must be no filthiness and silly talk, or coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks. For this you know with certainty, that no immoral or impure person or covetous man, who is an idolater, has an inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience.”
‭‭EPHESIANS‬ ‭5:1-6‬ ‭NASB‬‬
 
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Jesus is the God of grace and grace alone. he has given us salvation and has made us righteous because he has fulfilled the law and we are not required to, nor even to try.

“Do we then nullify the Law through faith? May it never be! On the contrary, we establish the Law.”
‭‭ROMANS‬ ‭3:31‬ ‭NASB‬‬
 
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Ephesians 2:8-9 King James Version (KJV)
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

What is the definition of faith?
 
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“Do we then nullify the Law through faith? May it never be! On the contrary, we establish the Law.”
‭‭ROMANS‬ ‭3:31‬ ‭NASB‬‬

He’s talkings about moral law. We must uphold it despite our salvation.
 
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He’s talkings about moral law. We must uphold it despite our salvation.

Actually Paul’s message is that we are no longer under the letter of the law but instead we are under the purpose for which the laws were written. The purpose being the two most important commandments. Love God with all your heart, soul, and mind, and love others as Jesus loves us.
 
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God is love; so God is personal with each of us. And His grace, then, is not distant, with Him only sitting on the throne in Heaven and smiling at us. But His grace includes God right in us changing us to be like Jesus and love like Jesus . . . in sharing with God in us having us so live and love.

Yes, God loves us unconditionally; and so He corrects us so we live His way. He favors us by changing us to be and love like His Son Jesus; so His grace, then, is His favor for Jesus and how His Son Jesus has pleased Him and has loved. His unconditional love is His example of how we also need to be unconditional in how we love > this comes more and more with sharing with Him in His own love living in our hearts > Romans 5:5. And in us God personally corrects us and matures us so we have the character to personally submit to Him and so share with Him.
 
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Paul warns these same children of God in chapter 5

“Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children; and walk in love, just as Christ also loved you and gave Himself up for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God as a fragrant aroma. But immorality or any impurity or greed must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints; and there must be no filthiness and silly talk, or coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks. For this you know with certainty, that no immoral or impure person or covetous man, who is an idolater, has an inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience.”
‭‭EPHESIANS‬ ‭5:1-6‬ ‭NASB‬‬
Modern Christianity is dangerous Christianity.
I'm coming to realize this more and more.

Not only do these believers who have incorrect doctrine not believe Paul, or Peter, or James, etc...They DON'T believe JESUS!

And never one verse for support of their incorrect doctrine.
 
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God is love; so God is personal with each of us. And His grace, then, is not distant, with Him only sitting on the throne in Heaven and smiling at us. But His grace includes God right in us changing us to be like Jesus and love like Jesus . . . in sharing with God in us having us so live and love.

Yes, God loves us unconditionally; and so He corrects us so we live His way. He favors us by changing us to be and love like His Son Jesus; so His grace, then, is His favor for Jesus and how His Son Jesus has pleased Him and has loved. His unconditional love is His example of how we also need to be unconditional in how we love > this comes more and more with sharing with Him in His own love living in our hearts > Romans 5:5. And in us God personally corrects us and matures us so we have the character to personally submit to Him and so share with Him.
Yes Comfy, God is love.
Let's just forget about the fact that He's also
JUST.

And HOLY,,,just like WE are to be holy.
1 Peter 1:15-16

Let's not move out of our comfort zone....
 
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Modern Christianity is dangerous Christianity.
I'm coming to realize this more and more.

Not only do these believers who have incorrect doctrine not believe Paul, or Peter, or James, etc...They DON'T believe JESUS!

And never one verse for support of their incorrect doctrine.

Their beliefs are only supported by bits and pieces of scripture taken out of context instead of being based on the entirety of the message that is being given by the authors.

It’s kind of like reading one sentence from the driver’s license handbook and saying look it says I can get my license when I turn 16 and ignoring the part about having to take the driver’s education class, being a resident in that state, and passing the exam and driving test.
 
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Modern Christianity is dangerous Christianity.
I'm coming to realize this more and more.

Not only do these believers who have incorrect doctrine not believe Paul, or Peter, or James, etc...They DON'T believe JESUS!

And never one verse for support of their incorrect doctrine.

Do you know what Gospel mean? "Good News"! Allow me to bring you the good news! Ready? You are saved! Now that you know, go make spaghetti or lasagna and celebrate! :)
 
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Do you know what Gospel mean? "Good News"! Allow me to bring you the good news! Ready? You are saved! Now that you know, go make spaghetti or lasagna and celebrate! :)

Yes, in the Greek it may mean good news, however Paul told you what the gospel actually is in 1 Corinthians 15:1-5. THAT'S what the gospel is that Paul declared unto everyone.

Death, burial, resurrection. Which is what WE need to do as well according to verses like Romans 6:1-5; Acts 2:38; What people were doing in Acts 8, so on and so forth.
 
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Death, burial, resurrection. Which is what WE need to do as well according to verses like Romans 6:1-5; Acts 2:38; What people were doing in Acts 8, so on and so forth.

Oh, haven't you heard? Jesus already did this for us 2000 years ago! All we need do is accept His grace and we also get to claim this victory. You needn't do a thing! Go make a pizza a celebrate! :)
 
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