Why Clinton and Obama Tweeted about ‘Easter Worshippers’

(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ) · Apr 24, 2019

redleghunter said:
Indeed many of the liberal media followed the theme of Obama and Clinton.

Why the need to defend their comments if one truly believes there is a meaningful term such as “Easter Worshiper [sic].”

Yet when Muslims were slaughtered by one man Clinton said thus:

Did you know that "Easter Worshipers" are the most persecuted group of people in the world?
Data: Christians Are the Most Persecuted Religious Group in the World

prodromos · Apr 25, 2019

redleghunter said:
What’s Easter Worship?

Must be some pagan thing that keeps getting talked about this time every year on the forums.

redleghunter · Apr 25, 2019

prodromos said:
Must be some pagan thing that keeps getting talked about this time every year on the forums.

Yeah those “pagan Easter” threads are a hoot. Maybe that was what the Tweets referred to.

SoldierOfTheKing · Apr 25, 2019

archer75 said:
But Christianity, at least cultural Christianity, is still seen as the norm.

Not in Sri Lanka...

MariaJLM · Apr 25, 2019

archer75 said:
I'm inclined to agree.

There are different verbal dances performed by people in public life, and I don't think it's totally impossible that something like what is described here could happen...but in this instance, it seems more like an infelicitous phrasing than anything else.

After all, to most Americans, Muslims need to be identified as Muslims and Jews and Jews because they are "different." But Christianity, at least cultural Christianity, is still seen as the norm. So maybe "Christians" is assumed and the holiday is specified in this awkward phrase?

Those are pretty much my thoughts. Christians are familiar to a western audience so if a phrase like "Easter worshippers" is used then everybody in the West knows it means Christians. If somebody was to say something like "Eid worshippers" then most Westerners would be confused.

High Fidelity · Apr 25, 2019

redleghunter said:
What’s Easter Worship?

Let's stop grasping at straws here and consider this is being blown out of proportion.

How many 'Christians' only find themselves in church on Easter or Christmas?

A lot of them aren't even Christian, they're just there because of cultural reasons or social expectations.

Martyr's Crown · Apr 25, 2019

When I read the phrase Easter Worshippers, it made me think of pagans celebrating easter in the "pagan way". As you do have also pagan easter, which when thinking about it, has got mixed into the westernized Christian easter celebration with some decorations as well as symbols, and traditions.

The same way as with the westernized Christmas celebration.

Danielwright2311 · Apr 25, 2019

Its a fact Christian's and Christianity are bad terms to use for the public.

We always hear Jew, Muslims, Catholics, and Hindu, but never Christians.

lastofall · Apr 25, 2019

Whosoever is ashamed of Christ (and His Name), them shall He also be ashamed of.

Martyr's Crown · Apr 25, 2019

MariaJLM said:
Those are pretty much my thoughts. Christians are familiar to a western audience so if a phrase like "Easter worshippers" is used then everybody in the West knows it means Christians. If somebody was to say something like "Eid worshippers" then most Westerners would be confused.

This is the danger signs when Christians are adapting more and more to a westernized audience, allowing more and more that Jesus Christ gets removed from everything, even inside of their churches too, so that they shouldn't offend anyone!

And Jesus Christ is offensive to all non-believers! But we are told;

"For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile." (Romans 1:16)

We should not be ashamed of Jesus Christ, if others become offended because we want to live for Him and stand up for Him, standing grounded in His Word and in His Truth, then we should remain stronger set in Him and in everything He has taught us, as well as shown us!

MariaJLM · Apr 25, 2019

Crowned Princess said:
This is the danger signs when Christians are adapting more and more to a westernized audience, allowing more and more that Jesus Christ gets removed from everything, even inside of their churches too, so that they shouldn't offend anyone!

And Jesus Christ is offensive to all non-believers! But we are told;

"For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile." (Romans 1:16)

We should not be ashamed of Jesus Christ, if others become offended because we want to live for Him and stand up for Him, standing grounded in His Word and in His Truth, then we should remain stronger set in Him and in everything He has taught us, as well as shown us!

A lot of social situations turn awkward the moment it's discovered that somebody present is a Christian.

Justified112 · Apr 25, 2019

redleghunter said:
By DENNIS PRAGER

The Left won’t allow itself to acknowledge anti-Christian terrorism.

Sometimes, a few sentences tell you more about a person — and, more importantly, an ideology — than a learned thesis. That is the case with tweets from Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama two days ago in response to the mass murder of more than 300 Christians and others in Sri Lanka.

Their tweets are worth serious analysis because they reveal a great deal about the Left. Of course, they reveal a great deal about Clinton and Obama, too, but that doesn’t interest me.

[...]

Here are the tweets:

Obama: “The attacks on tourists and Easter worshippers in Sri Lanka are an attack on humanity. On a day devoted to love, redemption, and renewal, we pray for the victims and stand with the people of Sri Lanka.”

Three hours later, Clinton tweeted: “On this holy weekend for many faiths, we must stand united against hatred and violence. I’m praying for everyone affected by today’s horrific attacks on Easter worshippers and travelers in Sri Lanka.”

Here’s what’s critical: Neither used the word “Christians.” And in order to avoid doing so, they went so far as to make up a new term — “Easter worshippers” — heretofore unknown to any Christian.

When Jews were murdered at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh, Clinton mentioned the synagogue in a tweet. But in her post–Sri Lanka tweet, despite the bombing of three churches filled with Christians, Clinton made no mention of church or churches. In a tweet after the massacre of Muslims in New Zealand, she wrote that her heart broke for “the global Muslim community.” But in her latest tweet, not a word about Christians or the global Christian community.

Prager is correct.

The problem for those on the Left is that the idea of Christians being victims goes against their narrative. It's Christians, especially white Christians, but all Christians in general, who are the oppressors. The Left sees Christians as the problem, so it is hard for them to sympathize with Christian victims of persecution.

No one has a problem when the victims are Muslims. No one said called the Muslims killed in New Zealand by terms like, "Friday night worshipers" or "Hijab wearers," "Mosque attendees," or "Koran readers." We simply called them "Muslims."

The Christians that were killed in Sri Lanka were Christians, but that is not what the Left (that generally hates Christianity) cannot bring themselves to admit. They cannot bring themselves to acknowledge that Christians are victims, because they have spent so much time painting Christians (the real ones vs. the cultural ones) as the oppressors.

Dave-W · Apr 25, 2019

redleghunter said:
What exactly is Easter Worship?

Good question.

FireDragon76 · Apr 25, 2019

redleghunter said:
By DENNIS PRAGER

The Left won’t allow itself to acknowledge anti-Christian terrorism.

Sometimes, a few sentences tell you more about a person — and, more importantly, an ideology — than a learned thesis. That is the case with tweets from Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama two days ago in response to the mass murder of more than 300 Christians and others in Sri Lanka.

Their tweets are worth serious analysis because they reveal a great deal about the Left. Of course, they reveal a great deal about Clinton and Obama, too, but that doesn’t interest me.

[...]

Here are the tweets:

Obama: “The attacks on tourists and Easter worshippers in Sri Lanka are an attack on humanity. On a day devoted to love, redemption, and renewal, we pray for the victims and stand with the people of Sri Lanka.”

Three hours later, Clinton tweeted: “On this holy weekend for many faiths, we must stand united against hatred and violence. I’m praying for everyone affected by today’s horrific attacks on Easter worshippers and travelers in Sri Lanka.”

Here’s what’s critical: Neither used the word “Christians.” And in order to avoid doing so, they went so far as to make up a new term — “Easter worshippers” — heretofore unknown to any Christian.

When Jews were murdered at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh, Clinton mentioned the synagogue in a tweet. But in her post–Sri Lanka tweet, despite the bombing of three churches filled with Christians, Clinton made no mention of church or churches. In a tweet after the massacre of Muslims in New Zealand, she wrote that her heart broke for “the global Muslim community.” But in her latest tweet, not a word about Christians or the global Christian community.

More at link:
Sri Lanka Bombings: Clinton and Obama Tweets Don’t Acknowledge Anti-Christian Terorrism | National Review

I must admit, this is witty.

However, there are indeed a separate class of "easter worshippers"- our church was nearly overflowing on Easter Sunday, but only about 1/4 full for the previous night's Easter vigil. An Anglican lay preacher I knew called them "submarine Christians", because she said they surface twice a year. So my guess is this is where the term Obama and Clinton used comes from, some kind of churchy parlance for people that just pop into church twice a year. But in this case, it's definitely imprecise, and probably projecting their own attitudes about religion onto a situation they don't really know about.

FireDragon76 · Apr 25, 2019

prodromos said:
Must be some pagan thing that keeps getting talked about this time every year on the forums.

We had little figurine statues of anthropomorphic bunnies in the fellowship hall... right next to the salt and pepper shakers. Does that count?

MariaJLM said:
A lot of social situations turn awkward the moment it's discovered that somebody present is a Christian.

That's why Pastor hates going anywhere wearing his dog collar any more than he has to. He gets into situations where suddenly he becomes the default spiritual and moral authority, complete with all the assumptions and baggage that comes with that. As Jesus said to the crowds, "Who made me your judge between you?"

Quasiblogo · Apr 25, 2019

Yom Kippur worshipers? Ramadan worshipers? "National Atheist Day" adherents? Sound like runarounds to me.

paul1149 · Apr 25, 2019

redleghunter said:
Their tweets are worth serious analysis because they reveal a great deal about the Left.

Prager is right. Another thing the left does of late is substitute "freedom of worship" for the Constitutional "freedom of religion". The use of "worship" constrains the right to a Sunday morning service, whereas "freedom of religion" implies the right to practice our faith as it applies to every area of our lives. This shift in terms will be used to further erode our religious liberties.

FireDragon76 · Apr 25, 2019

paul1149 said:
Prager is right. Another thing the left does of late is substitute "freedom of worship" for the Constitutional "freedom of religion". The use of "worship" constrains the right to a Sunday morning service, whereas "freedom of religion" implies the right to practice our faith as it applies to every area of our lives. This shift in terms will be used to further erode our religious liberties.

If we are going to be Originalists, we need to look at the original context of the Framers, and they all understood religion in magisterial Protestant categories, meaning that religion was primarily about the worship owed to God (similar to the original Roman concept). Lutherans and some Reformed churches still retain this notion, even if evangelicals have absorbed a more totalizing definition of religion (influenced perhaps by pietism's elimination of the very concept of religion as institution, coupled with a disregard for appropriate and prudent boundaries), it is foreign to the framers of the Constitution.

GingerBeer · Apr 25, 2019

Easter worshipers does not mean or imply that people worship Easter it means people gathered to worship Jesus Christ on Easter Sunday. There's no need to make it mean something that it obviously does not mean.

Jamsie · Apr 25, 2019

christine40 said:
all this fuss on Obama/Clinton tweets YET Trump didn't say the word Christian in his tweet:
138 people have been killed in Sri Lanka, with more that 600 badly injured, in a terrorist attack on churches and hotels. The United States offers heartfelt condolences to the great people of Sri Lanka. We stand ready to help!
4:20 AM - 21 Apr 2019
AND he didn't even say anything about praying for them which BOTH Clinton and Obama did

Interesting and quite telling that this post was NOT responded to by anyone. The question seems to be why didn't prager include trump? Here are his tweets, and as per usual his first needed correction...though hyperbole is part of his schtick:

3:48 AM - 21 April 2019
"Heartfelt condolences from the people of the United States to the people of Sri Lanka on the horrible terrorist attacks on churches and hotels that have killed at least 138 million people and badly injured 600 more. We stand ready to help!"

Deleted and changed to:
7:20 AM - 21 April 2019
"138 people have been killed in Sri Lanka, with more that 600 badly injured, in a terrorist attack on churches and hotels. The United States offers heartfelt condolences to the great people of Sri Lanka. We stand ready to help!"

I suppose the argument will be that the use of "churches" is a significant acknowledgement of Christians … somehow. Always amusing how adept biased ideologues such as prager and others can create a "talking point" for their sheep to stir ill-considered outrage.

Halbhh · Apr 25, 2019

redleghunter said:
What’s Easter Worship?

What you and I did on Sunday, sincerely. And it was very good in our church. How about you. :=)

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