Why didn't the Right try to even the chances in the Entertainment culture war a bit?

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Okay...this sentence is meaningful somehow?

Is it reasonable to say that Disney is taking the path of highest profit?
They are not. They are too ideological.

Disney will do anything and everything that will get them more money. If wokeness is the path to more dollars they will do it. If not they won’t. The only thing I’ve found that would make them more money that they don’t do is selling poutine in the Canada pavilion at Epcot. Wokeness sells, I’m not naive enough to believe their intentions are all pure, wokeness makes them money so that’s what they do.

So they scaled back their SW plans and Kathleen Kennedy is in public relations jail because wokeness sells?

Wokeness is just a stupid word. Please to stop using it?
What would you use instead?
 
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They are not. They are too ideological.

You, of course, have examples to prove that Disney doesn't wish to make a profit?

So they scaled back their SW plans and Kathleen Kennedy is in public relations jail because wokeness sells?

Someone else here knows what this means, yes?
 
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So, you don’t think that our present episodes of “Living in ‘Interesting Times!’” strongly resemble a “madcap mashup” of “Citizen Kane”, “Cool Hand Luke”, (with Bob Mueller in the eponymous role), and at least one “Muppet Movie”?

I think it's rather easy to write a plot outside the general seven.
 
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You, of course, have examples to prove that Disney doesn't wish to make a profit?



Someone else here knows what this means, yes?
After Solo: A SW Story flopped, Disney said that they were going to slow down production on SW related media. They attributed Solo flopping to fan fatigue, and they may have a point. It was the 4th SW film in 3 years.
 
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They are not. They are too ideological.
Disney released 4 SW films. Three of them are among the highest grossing films of all time. Nobody is quite sure why Solo flopped, but it probably has more to do with not having Harrison Ford then being too ideological.
 
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After Solo: A SW Story flopped, Disney said that they were going to slow down production on SW related media. They attributed Solo flopping to fan fatigue, and they may have a point. It was the 4th SW film in 3 years.

And how was a movie of Han Solo too ideological?
 
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And how was a movie of Han Solo too ideological?
I don't we are going to get an answer to that. Disney attributes it to fan fatigue and putting out movies too quickly which is why they slowed down. Personally I think it's simpler then that. While I get what they were trying to do, they made a mistake making a Han Solo movie and casting somebody else as Han.
 
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The problem isn't the ideological leaning of entertainers, the problem is a culture that puts entertainers on a pedestal. In the Roman Empire as much as they loved their entertainment, entertainers were only a notch above slaves on the social ladder.
 
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...I honestly don't know. Are you speaking Klingon?

Are you suggesting that if Disney could make more money off of conservatives than liberals, they wouldn't take that path?

Do you have examples?



See above.
I speak Klingon and you speak Romulan, welcome to politics.

You actually think it's an either or? Why?

I was clear as far as i am concerned.
After Solo: A SW Story flopped, Disney said that they were going to slow down production on SW related media. They attributed Solo flopping to fan fatigue, and they may have a point. It was the 4th SW film in 3 years.

TLJ preaching did that...

And how was a movie of Han Solo too ideological?
The Last Jedi was.

The problem isn't the ideological leaning of entertainers, the problem is a culture that puts entertainers on a pedestal. In the Roman Empire as much as they loved their entertainment, entertainers were only a notch above slaves on the social ladder.
And why should a 21st century state look at Rome as an example to be followed if what you say is even true?
 
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I speak Klingon and you speak Romulan, welcome to politics.

Then why don't we try English...?

You actually think it's an either or? Why?

Because the Disney corporation has a legal responsibility to it's shareholders to show a profit. If they refused to do that on ideological grounds, not only could they be sued, but they would certainly start losing shareholders.

I was clear as far as i am concerned.

I don't think you're the one who gets to decide that, but whatever...

TLJ preaching did that...

Assuming that TLJ is the Last Jedi, what was it preaching?

The Last Jedi was.

How was it ideological?
 
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And why should a 21st century state look at Rome as an example to be followed if what you say is even true?

I wasn't pointing to Rome as an example to followed so much as an example in contrast, that people needn't worship entertainers the way our culture does. Note I said culture, not state.
 
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Allowing extras to work for free and reducing movie copyringhts to 20 years woould mess with the ability of the current studio system to preach their values or qoute unqoute values.

I legit think it could lead to a more ideologicaly diverse entertainemnt landscape.

They had everything 2 years ago in terms of legilsative power.

The entertainment industry is much more powerful than your average, or even above average politician. Arguably, the entertainment industry drives politics more than politics drive the entertainment industry.
 
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The entertainment industry is much more powerful than your average, or even above average politician. Arguably, the entertainment industry drives politics more than politics drive the entertainment industry.

Except they only have the power to influence. Politicians have the power to make and change laws, create policy, wage wars...

Even Gwyneth Paltrow can't do that.
 
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Except they only have the power to influence. Politicians have the power to make and change laws, create policy, wage wars...

Even Gwyneth Paltrow can't do that.

The entertainment industry influences the population, categorically.

The population provides the votes for the politician.

Hollywood (note the name) has formed the culture of the States since its inception; it is much more powerful, and even more of an influence than all combined politicians. Trump got his head start in popularity from being a reality TV darling. But, even his businesses were heavily injected into pop culture and entertainment.
 
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The entertainment industry influences the population, categorically.

The population provides the votes for the politician.

Hollywood (note the name) has formed the culture of the States since its inception; it is much more powerful, and even more of an influence than all combined politicians. Trump got his head start in popularity from being a reality TV darling. But, even his businesses were heavily injected into pop culture and entertainment.

Can Gwyneth Paltrow nuke Russia?
 
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The problem isn't the ideological leaning of entertainers, the problem is a culture that puts entertainers on a pedestal.

Or worse... into political power.
 
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Can Gwyneth Paltrow nuke Russia?

It doesn't matter. Spend 20 years conditioning people we need to nuke Russia and the people will demand it of the politicians.

Gwyneth Paltrow is not the entertainment industry; she has no power other than what is given and allowed to her.
 
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It doesn't matter. Spend 20 years conditioning people we need to nuke Russia and the people will demand it of the politicians.

Gwyneth Paltrow is not the entertainment industry; she has no power other than what is given and allowed to her.

So explain to me how the entertainment industry co-ordinated, say, the war with Iraq? Or Obamacare?
 
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