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"Blessed are ye that weep" is exactly what Luke 6:21 DOES say. Nobody here put false words in the Lord's mouth.
 
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Whether or not it's "sexist", is it factually incorrect?

Yes. There's no evidence that women are less rational or have less control over their emotions then men.
 
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Yes. There's no evidence that women are less rational or have less control over their emotions then men.
What evidence could possibly exist that would satisfy you?

What I know for certain is that I’ve never seen a man storm out of a room in tears followed by his befuddled girlfriend saying “What’s up, was it something I said?”
 
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What evidence could possibly exist that would satisfy you?

What I know for certain is that I’ve never seen a man storm out of a room in tears followed by his befuddled girlfriend saying “What’s up, was it something I said?”

You're right. I doubt any pseudoscientific studies people could come up with here would satisfy me. I know enough about psychology to know that the supposed "irrationality" of women is a myth.

I never said that men and women don't express emotion differently, and I said in my first post that women are more open about expressing emotion. That doesn't mean they're less rational or less intellectually capable.

I've never seen a man storm out in tears, but I've seen men yell and storm out in anger plenty of times. Different emotion, same action.

Of course, maybe you have the traditionally male idea that open expression of emotion and rational thinking don't go together.
 
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How would you know? You havent cried since you were a baby. What experience with emotions do you have?

One can experience emotions without blubbering. But fairly generally emotions will always cloud judgement. That is what they are designed to do! They give an instinctive sympathy for (or denial of) a particular course of action. This was useful before society was fully formed because it improved survivability to have "gut reactions" to things. In the modern world emotion is just a hindrance - it is much better to purge it and use our minds instead. Instead of worrying about what might make you "happy", wonder instead about what might be useful.
 
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One can experience emotions without blubbering. But fairly generally emotions will always cloud judgement. That is what they are designed to do! They give an instinctive sympathy for (or denial of) a particular course of action. This was useful before society was fully formed because it improved survivability to have "gut reactions" to things. In the modern world emotion is just a hindrance - it is much better to purge it and use our minds instead. Instead of worrying about what might make you "happy", wonder instead about what might be useful.
According to you Godly sorrow and joy deceive us and these emotions should be purged? Im using my mind right now to ponder this assertion and that doesnt sound right. What about David, a man after Gods heart and who wept a lot? What about Job, should he have not wept?
 
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How is weeping unmanly?


Peter wept.

Matthew 26:75 And Peter remembered the word which Jesus had said, "Before a rooster crows, you will deny Me three times." And he went out and wept bitterly.


Paul wept

Philippians 3:18 For many walk, of whom I often told you, and now tell you even weeping, that they are enemies of the cross of Christ,


Timothy wept

2 Timothy 1:3-4 I thank God, whom I serve with a clear conscience the way my forefathers did, as I constantly remember you in my prayers night and day, longing to see you, even as I recall your tears, so that I may be filled with joy.


Job wept

Job 16:16 "My face is flushed from weeping, And deep darkness is on my eyelids,


David wept

Psalm 42:3 My tears have been my food day and night, While they say to me all day long, "Where is your God?"
 
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Females can control their emotions too.
True.

But then we may end up in a no-win situation. I've experienced it over and over. Have an emotion? I'm just being a silly woman with no control over herself; what can you expect from a female? Don't have an emotion? I'm unnatural and unladylike at best, usually described in crude terms questioning my sexuality.

For the record, some of us don't have to be men to experience such garbage as "If you don't stop crying, I'll give you something to cry about." Whether physical pain (such as when I broke my collarbone at school) or emotional pain (such as when my boyfriend was killed in a shooting accident) expression was discouraged, and holding everything inside was seen as being "strong and brave." I didn't cry in either situation, and I was admired for it. This was anything but healthy.
 
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True.

But then we may end up in a no-win situation. I've experienced it over and over. Have an emotion? I'm just being a silly woman with no control over herself; what can you expect from a female? Don't have an emotion? I'm unnatural and unladylike at best, usually described in crude terms questioning my sexuality.

For the record, some of us don't have to be men to experience such garbage as "If you don't stop crying, I'll give you something to cry about." Whether physical pain (such as when I broke my collarbone at school) or emotional pain (such as when my boyfriend was killed in a shooting accident) expression was discouraged, and holding everything inside was seen as being "strong and brave." I didn't cry in either situation, and I was admired for it. This was anything but healthy.
Suppressing emotion can be unhealthy. Thanks for sharing.
 
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Jeremiah 9:1 [a]Oh that my head were waters
And my eyes a fountain of tears,
That I might weep day and night
For the slain of the daughter of my people!

The difficulties he encountered, as described in the books of Jeremiah and Lamentations, have prompted scholars to refer to him as "the weeping prophet".
Jeremiah - Wikipedia
 
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David is a very poor role model. No-one should be trying to emulate him.
Its not about trying to emulate anything. Does a person feel sorrow by trying to mimic someone else? No. What about Jeremiah, is he a role model?

Jeremiah 9:1 [a]Oh that my head were waters
And my eyes a fountain of tears,
That I might weep day and night
For the slain of the daughter of my people!
 
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Speaking of "tears", David cried many of them. He describes them in Psalms repeatedly. In one of the verses, in a prayer to God about his tears, he speaks of God, saving his tears in a bottle. Our tears are very precious to God. He promises that those who "sow in sorrow" shall "reap in joy", and that weeping may endure for a night but joy comes in the morning.

Emotions are from God. How can we not weep when we see the devastation of this fallen world and when evil is celebrated, etc.

Our tears amidst our prayers are precious to God because it is like "incense" rising up to God.

Psalms is very clear on what emotions are "of God" and which are not. Some emotions are downright sinful. Proverbs also exemplifies which emotions are evil because they originate from the enemy.

What comes to mind for me, in summary, is David dancing with all his might before the Lord. His "heart" was overflowing and thus dancing with joy before he even began physically dancing.

What is "joy"? It's an "emotion".

There is a REASON that God Himself called David the "apple of His eye", and a man "after His own heart".

This song comes to mind. When we love God and our hearts are overflowing with this love, thankfulness and praise, how can we keep from expressing it?

How can we keep from singing?

 
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Why do so many 'men' support their own emasculation? Calls for more crying and emotional behaviour. This girl-like behaviour doesn't make Sense to me when it comes out of men.

Your responses don't make sense to me.
Some men cry - and thank goodness they do. Others don't - they may just go off and commit suicide instead.
 
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What I say is true and does have observable evidence.

I said women are emotional and are ruled by their emotions, how can I prove this? Well look what happens when a woman is pregnant or on her period, emotional.

Yeah - it's called hormones.
But not all women experience that.
 
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MOD HAT ON
Thread cleaned up of off topic posts and flames.
Please makes replies that relevant to the topic of discussion and do not make posts that denigrate men or women.

MOD HAT OFF
 
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Speaking of "tears", David cried many of them. He describes them in Psalms repeatedly. In one of the verses, in a prayer to God about his tears, he speaks of God, saving his tears in a bottle. Our tears are very precious to God. He promises that those who "sow in sorrow" shall "reap in joy", and that weeping may endure for a night but joy comes in the morning.

Emotions are from God. How can we not weep when we see the devastation of this fallen world and when evil is celebrated, etc.

Our tears amidst our prayers are precious to God because it is like "incense" rising up to God.

Psalms is very clear on what emotions are "of God" and which are not. Some emotions are downright sinful. Proverbs also exemplifies which emotions are evil because they originate from the enemy.

What comes to mind for me, in summary, is David dancing with all his might before the Lord. His "heart" was overflowing and thus dancing with joy before he even began physically dancing.

What is "joy"? It's an "emotion".

There is a REASON that God Himself called David the "apple of His eye", and a man "after His own heart".

This song comes to mind. When we love God and our hearts are overflowing with this love, thankfulness and praise, how can we keep from expressing it?

How can we keep from singing?

Thank you brinny. I agree.
 
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Speaking of "tears", David cried many of them. He describes them in Psalms repeatedly. In one of the verses, in a prayer to God about his tears, he speaks of God, saving his tears in a bottle. Our tears are very precious to God. He promises that those who "sow in sorrow" shall "reap in joy", and that weeping may endure for a night but joy comes in the morning.

Emotions are from God. How can we not weep when we see the devastation of this fallen world and when evil is celebrated, etc.

Our tears amidst our prayers are precious to God because it is like "incense" rising up to God.

Psalms is very clear on what emotions are "of God" and which are not. Some emotions are downright sinful. Proverbs also exemplifies which emotions are evil because they originate from the enemy.

What comes to mind for me, in summary, is David dancing with all his might before the Lord. His "heart" was overflowing and thus dancing with joy before he even began physically dancing.

What is "joy"? It's an "emotion".

There is a REASON that God Himself called David the "apple of His eye", and a man "after His own heart".

This song comes to mind. When we love God and our hearts are overflowing with this love, thankfulness and praise, how can we keep from expressing it?

How can we keep from singing?


I love everything about this post.
 
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