Emotions/feelings

W2L · Apr 15, 2019

Jonaitis said:
Feelings have their place, even in the Christian life. However, they should be considered in light of what God says. Contrition and godly sorrow leads to repentance, that's biblical. Attrition is what we read in the lives of Judas and Esau. We must correlate those feelings with what the Scriptures say.

Ever feel like praying deep inside, but cannot say the words? "Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God" (Romans 8:26-27). God will condescend to such a person that he will intercede for him on his behalf for exactly what is in his heart, but according to his will.

Thank you.

thecolorsblend · Apr 15, 2019

W2L said:
People warn about following our feelings and some dismiss feelings altogether. But what about Godly sorrow and contrition? Are these emotions a product of truth? Emotions, or feelings, seem joined with truth in some way. How can we dismiss Gods chastening as well? Its not joyful but it can be felt, right?

Whats your opinion?

My snide dismissals of feelings usually relate to emotionalism as some kind of religious experience/revelation. "I just FELT it" are the four words needed to earn instant skepticism from me.

Gregory Thompson · Apr 15, 2019

W2L said:
People warn about following our feelings and some dismiss feelings altogether. But what about Godly sorrow and contrition? Are these emotions a product of truth? Emotions, or feelings, seem joined with truth in some way. How can we dismiss Gods chastening as well? Its not joyful but it can be felt, right?

Whats your opinion?

Jesus said "I am the truth" and expressed a variety of emotions.

God made us to look like (image) and be like (likeness) Him, and we have emotions.

The main deal with this and anything in human nature is discerning when sin is happening as part of the expression.

NBB · Apr 15, 2019

thecolorsblend said:
My snide dismissals of feelings usually relate to emotionalism as some kind of religious experience/revelation. "I just FELT it" are the four words needed to earn instant skepticism from me.

Ok, but when the apostles 'felt' the visions etc about the gospel? they needed to learn from them with their spiritual senses, also when they were revealed something. So if God makes you feel something and you can tell is him, then you can make conclusions about it.

Gregory Thompson · Apr 15, 2019

I recall that one time when Paul said "I wish those obsessed with circumcision would go the whole way and castrate themselves" and this has remained in the canon for quite a number of centuries .. so I guess emotions are not a bad thing.

Calvin_1985 · Apr 15, 2019

yeshuaslavejeff said:
From God, it is KNOWN IN SPIRIT. Spiritual 'emotions' , in Scripture,

are completely different from soulish or of the flesh.

If the flesh or the soul is in power/ control / that is a problem.

When the spirit is, that is as it should be, according to all of God's Word, Plan and Purpose in Christ Jesus.

I just want to ask, do you get agitated over this type of conversation?

I don't mean this in a judgemental type of way, just curious. I see you're comments are on here a lot and a lot the are in defense or against something with what comes across as frustration. I could be wrong, I just get a sense from your words that this is what is coming from you. So is there anything that maybe you need prayer for? Something that you're struggling with Spiritually or even practically?

I don't know you or anything about you Brother, but Jesus wants us to bear one another's burdens, so what is your burden?

Calvin_1985 · Apr 15, 2019

Jonaitis said:
Feelings have their place, even in the Christian life. However, they should be considered in light of what God says. Contrition and godly sorrow leads to repentance, that's biblical. Attrition is what we read in the lives of Judas and Esau. We must correlate those feelings with what the Scriptures say.

Ever feel like praying deep inside, but cannot say the words? "Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God" (Romans 8:26-27). God will condescend to such a person that he will intercede for him on his behalf for exactly what is in his heart, but according to his will.

Dude, perfect answer.

Gregory Thompson · Apr 15, 2019

I find threads lacking when there is only debating and no application discussed so I'll go first.

Earlier in my walk, I found that when I was overwhelmed by emotion, I would speak in tongues. When I say speak in tongues, it was outside of a Pentecostal/Charismatic context. I've found over time, looking at what the scripture says "pray to interpret" has been a real boon in terms of self control and part of the journey helped teach the part of my being that was completely unreasonable scripture, and now I cannot forget it.

I like to think of emotions as a complex language that humans seldom have the opportunity to learn. Praying to interpret helps even if you do not "speak in a tongue" since everyone has a portion of their childhood that consists of thoughts and emotions that was before we learned a human language. Prayer, cannot get enough of it. God gives the wisdom, and usually through the foolish looking things .. such as emotions.

Gregory Thompson · Apr 15, 2019

NBB said:
Guys have emotions too.

The NT word for homosexual in the bible "Malacca" also means effeminate man. I surmise the post was a round about way of using a cruder term.

W2L · Apr 15, 2019

Ive seen men cry. Dont tell me they dont get emotional like a gurlyman, lol, get real.

topher694 · Apr 15, 2019

I find it remarkable how those who are not qualified for ministry leadership themselves can be such experts on who is qualified.

W2L · Apr 15, 2019

Ive seen men fight back tears when describing Gods love, or while testifying. Whats that about? Are they just weak?

LovebirdsFlying · Apr 16, 2019

Thank you, OP, for starting this thread. I'm posting to subscribe.

All that jazz about male/female aside, sometimes I think that as a Christian, if anything bad happens, I'm not allowed to feel any kind of way about it. Sadness? Anger? Fear? No, all of that is wrong and sinful! The only emotion I'm ever allowed to feel is happyhappyjoyjoy, or else I'm a bad Christian.

In fact, I was considering starting a thread on this subject myself, and then I saw this one.

I do believe in praising God in the valley as well as on the mountaintop, but feelings do happen. Are good Christians ever allowed to feel "negative" emotions? Or is that a failure of faith?

Jon Osterman · Apr 16, 2019

I haven't cried since I was a child. I didn't cry much then either (my parents had me medically examined as a baby because they were worried I cried too little). Emotions obscure rational decisions and must be kept firmly in check.

Dorothy Mae · Apr 16, 2019

bling said:
We can feel and experience being crucified with Christ.

I sincerely doubt this. I doubt many have the slightest idea what the last supper and after meant for Jesus. You have a better chance of pretending you feel and experience what it means to give birth.

W2L · Apr 17, 2019

LovebirdsFlying said:
Thank you, OP, for starting this thread. I'm posting to subscribe.

All that jazz about male/female aside, sometimes I think that as a Christian, if anything bad happens, I'm not allowed to feel any kind of way about it. Sadness? Anger? Fear? No, all of that is wrong and sinful! The only emotion I'm ever allowed to feel is happyhappyjoyjoy, or else I'm a bad Christian.

In fact, I was considering starting a thread on this subject myself, and then I saw this one.

I do believe in praising God in the valley as well as on the mountaintop, but feelings do happen. Are good Christians ever allowed to feel "negative" emotions? Or is that a failure of faith?

We can feel those things.

W2L · Apr 17, 2019

Jon Osterman said:
Emotions obscure rational decisions and must be kept firmly in check.

How would you know? You havent cried since you were a baby. What experience with emotions do you have?

W2L · Apr 17, 2019

Jesus wept, so did Paul and David as well, but crying is a byproduct of emotion not an emotion itself.

W2L · Apr 17, 2019

Jesus said blessed are those who weep. Timothy, Peter, Paul, David, Job, and the Lord all wept.

Luke 6:21 "Blessed are you who hunger now, for you shall be satisfied. Blessed are you who weep now, for you shall laugh.

Psalm 56:8 You have taken account of my wanderings; Put my tears in Your bottle Are they not in Your book?

John 11:35 Jesus wept.

Matthew 26:75 And Peter remembered the word which Jesus had said, "Before a rooster crows, you will deny Me three times." And he went out and wept bitterly.

Revelation 21:4 and He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have passed away."

1 Samuel 20:41 When the lad was gone, David rose from the south side and fell on his face to the ground, and bowed three times And they kissed each other and wept together, but David wept the more.

Psalm 6:6 I am weary with my sighing; Every night I make my bed swim, I dissolve my couch with my tears.

Job 16:16 "My face is flushed from weeping, And deep darkness is on my eyelids,

Psalm 39:12 "Hear my prayer, O LORD, and give ear to my cry; Do not be silent at my tears; For I am a stranger with You, A sojourner like all my fathers.

Psalm 42:3 My tears have been my food day and night, While they say to me all day long, "Where is your God?"

Luke 19:41 When He approached Jerusalem, He saw the city and wept over it,

Philippians 3:18 For many walk, of whom I often told you, and now tell you even weeping, that they are enemies of the cross of Christ,

2 Timothy 1:3-4 I thank God, whom I serve with a clear conscience the way my forefathers did, as I constantly remember you in my prayers night and day, longing to see you, even as I recall your tears, so that I may be filled with joy.

Hebrews 5:7 In the days of His flesh, He offered up both prayers and supplications with loud crying and tears to the One able to save Him from death, and He was heard because of His piety.

Acts 20:19 serving the Lord with all humility and with tears and with trials which came upon me through the plots of the Jews;

Acts 20:31 "Therefore be on the alert, remembering that night and day for a period of three years I did not cease to admonish each one with tears.

Cyprezz · Apr 17, 2019

Didn’t realise crying was solely a feminine attribute. My mistake :scratch:

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