What?
We're talking about doing good deeds being a sin...
Could you explain yourself any better....
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We're talking about doing good deeds being a sin...
Could you explain yourself any better....
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The "obedience of (the) faith, is walking by faith" basically... For this is following the Holy Spirit...
We need practice, as it's not at all, "at all", about your own will, or doing or whatever, ever... I have found out and/or discovered anyway...
God Bless!
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Mine does not matter, but I am considering the perspectives and points of view of the different members of the trinity though... Which is why those answers would or might be different...
And I talk, I just have sometimes found that sometimes less can be more, and perhaps wise sometimes as well...
God Bless!
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Here's a few concepts and beliefs of yours that come oozing out of your posts:
1. Jesus liked good deeds, but you don't.
see John:5:28-29 Jesus Himself said you will be judged by your good deeds. I sure hope you're doing some.
2. You speak of grace and mercy belonging to God. Are you speaking about the same God that chooses who will be saved, per your doctrine? This means that the rest He banishes to hell - I DO hope you're aware of this.
3. You don't seem to like yourSELF. Jesus said to Love God, and love your neighbor as yourSELF.
Are you aware of Jesus' teachings or do you depend more on man's teachings?
4. The gospel message is THE GOOD NEWS.
What do you suppose the good news is?
MAYBE God will choose you?
Doesn't sound like good news.
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NO no. You don't get to say "let whosoever come unto Christ for salvation and forgiveness" and then continue on about God's sovereignty, which was not discovered by Calvin, but gave him much trouble in reconciling that with free will - so we got what we got from him---
and saying that God chose a people for Himself to show His love.
First of all, the people He chose were THE HEBREWS to whom He revealed Himself. When you see the word "elect" in the N.T. maybe you could remember this and see if it fits.
Second, a god that wants to show His mercy does NOT send people to hell for no reason at all. He, instead, gives ALL PERSONS the opportunity to be saved. THAT is the God of the N.T.
God is:
Love
1 John 4:8
Merciful
2 Corinthians 1:3-4
Just
Isaiah 30:18
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Good deeds follows always a repentant regenerate believer. How you judge that is your opinion. And it’s a good deflection to say I care nothing for righteous living to cover for self righteous behavior. All elect believers love righteousness and hate evil. And please spare me your self esteem message of not loving my self. Another diversion. Denying the doctrine of election and what that entails, is a good example of one who places salvation in the hands of sinful men rather than in Christ alone
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May not seem to be good news on the surface, except for the peace that it would and can bring...
When taken or thought through to it's conclusion...
Puts God, and us, all in our rightful places though now, doesn't it...
God Bless!
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For no reason at all huh? This shows you do not acknowledge your own sinful wretched self. There is none absolutely none deserving of Gods mercy or what you say, an opportunity to be saved. And the elect are all those in Christ, whether you be Jew or gentile. Galatians 3: 26-29.
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Different topic for a different day and different thread.
No self-esteem dear brother. I depend on Jesus as much as you do. But I don't hate sinful man...I love all persons as Jesus said to because I know they have the potential to become a believer.
And I don't use diversions...I'm just using language to talk to you.
And I'm happy to say that salvation IS IN MY HANDS and in this way I can be SURE of my salvation. I do believe that you have to wait till the end of your life to know whether or not you are truly elected.
See...you mentioned sinful man again...you really do dislike humanity...the total depravity of them all...
Good night.
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The term “by faith” means God spoke or moved upon someone, and they obeyed Him.
By faith Noah, being divinely warned of things not yet seen, moved with godly fear, prepared an ark for the saving of his household, by which he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness which is according to faith. Hebrews 11:7
JLB
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I USED TO BE a sinful wretched self...
I am now a child of God...
and anyone who wishes to can also be a child of God.
Praised be His holy name.
John 1:2
But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name,
Hebrews 5:9
And having been made perfect, He became to all those who obey Him the source of eternal salvation,
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What is the conclusion?
That MAYBE God will pick YOU?
And what if He doesn't?
Is THAT good news?
Clarify what you're talking about...
Sometimes persons don't talk much because they fear something or other.
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Study Romans 9 to 11. The elect are the Hebrews...I didn't say Jew, I said Hebrew.
When you study it...use mainline Christian commentators and teachers.
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Yes...
Do I really have to....? (again)... And I also mean, "Do I really have to" as well...?
I spent a lot of time quiet because of that, but that's not the case now, or on here, just discretion, and maybe some common sense...
God Bless!
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Yes, I used to struggle or had to struggle a lot, and it is much less now, thank God...
He brought me to a place where I had some rest and peace, but He knows that after a little while now, I'm now itching to get out there and do something and try to do some good maybe along the way, ect... Get out where I can see Him, He can show me things, (again) and I can practice walking in the Spirit, basically...
God Bless!
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