Why didn't the Right try to even the chances in the Entertainment culture war a bit?

Sjatov's Avenging Angel said:

Not good enough as far as i am concerned. Also there so much more to the right.

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Too bad I guess.

But that is why Christian movies rarely get any traction: they are not very good for the reason I gave.

In the market for ideas they are not being bought. This may dismay you but it’s true: no one (relatively speaking) is watching Christian movies but millions of people cross culturally are watching Avengers and Spider-Man in their droves.

If a film is not entertaining no one will watch it.

Sjatov's Avenging Angel said:

That is not what i said.

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Yes you did. You literally said that we would see more creativity in theaters if copyright were shorter.

Sjatov's Avenging Angel said:

In theatres, not every movie gets to stay there for a long time if it makes it there in the first place.

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What? That has absolutely nothing to do with copyright.

Sjatov's Avenging Angel said:

You don't think what we have now is peak self censorship since the mid 60s?

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No.

Sjatov's Avenging Angel said:

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I mean more of the more of that would be enjoyed by a larger audience.

20 years isa very long time...

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No, 20 years is not long at all.

RDKirk said:

If you go back to the definitions and descriptions of their inventors (such as the writings of Mussolini, Hitler, and the philosophers that informed them to find the definition and description of fascism and Marx and Engels to find the definition and description of Communism), there is one earmark of distinction that rises above political spin: Who makes the decisions?

If one living man is considered the embodiment of the will and character of the nation and makes the decisions of national direction, that's an earmark of fascism. If there is no one living man in that position--if it's done by committee--that's an earmark of Communism.

Thus, the "Democratic Republic" of North Korea certainly isn't a democracy or a republic, but isn't even Communist. It's fascist.

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So one is a dictatorship and on one an oligarchy. If they act in the exact same way, I do not find that to be a very important difference. I hope no one is suggesting that if a committee commands the killing of millions it is somehow less malevolent then if a single dictator does.

I'm just curious, when we talk about entertainment that fights the culture war on behalf of the left, which entertainment are we talking about?

It might also be worth noting that most of the international film markets that get American movies are not fighting a culture war, and have a social and political center which is well to the left of the US.

Entertainment producers aren't trying to win a culture war. They're trying to make a profit.

grasping the after wind said:

So one is a dictatorship and on one an oligarchy. If they act in the exact same way, I do not find that to be a very important difference. I hope no one is suggesting that if a committee commands the killing of millions it is somehow less malevolent then if a single dictator does.

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Well, Communism is still not exactly an oligarchy, but understanding the difference becomes significant when one needs to understand how each begins in a population--it relates to understanding what is happening as it is happening.

Sjatov's Avenging Angel said:

Yes it does. A lot of blockbsuters these years are based on old IP.

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Which are all still under copyright.

Arcangl86 said:

Which are all still under copyright.

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Purchase the rights?

I'm confused. What sort of property should be helpful in the culture war?

PeachyKeane said:

I'm just curious, when we talk about entertainment that fights the culture war on behalf of the left, which entertainment are we talking about?

It might also be worth noting that most of the international film markets that get American movies are not fighting a culture war, and have a social and political center which is well to the left of the US.

Entertainment producers aren't trying to win a culture war. They're trying to make a profit.

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Outside of the bubble that the Far Right have constructed, there really is no culture war. That rhetoric is simply created for power brokers to bamboozle people like the carnival barkers they are.

FireDragon76 said:

Outside of the bubble that the Far Right have constructed, there really is no culture war. That rhetoric is simply created for power brokers to bamboozle people like the carnival barkers they are.

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Well yeah, but who doesn't love a good war?

Sjatov's Avenging Angel said:

Yes it does. A lot of blockbsuters these years are based on old IP.

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Copyright seems not to have prevented them from being created...and yet paid the copyright holders.

But notice that copyright is only upon a specific expression of an idea, not upon the idea itself.

There are many expressions of Ovid's "star-crossed lovers" of Pyramus and Thisby. All of the latest specific expressions of that story are copyrighted, which does not prevent new expressions ever few years, such as Romeo and Juliet (in several versions), "West Side Story," "Romeo Must Die!," "Gnomeo and Juliet," et cetera.

I could write this story: A young Afghani farm boy's family is killed during a wedding ceremony by an American drone. The boy is taken under the wing of an old Mujahadeen who had fought against the Soviets during their invasion. The boy himself is radicalized when the old Mujahadeen is killed by an American combat patrol and then joins the resistance against the invaders. He later becomes a major player in a successful attack against an American base.

Of course, that's just "Star Wars: A New Hope." Same idea, different expression, and can be copyrighted as such...by me.

Sjatov's Avenging Angel said:

Yes it does. A lot of blockbsuters these years are based on old IP.

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But...each movie is under its own copyright, regardless.

Pommer said:

But...each movie is under its own copyright, regardless.

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Generally, multiple copyrights--the film score, the credit score, the costume design, the set design--and more--will often have individual copyrights.