Biblical Timeline leading up to the end

Calvin_1985 said:

So I guess that means no? Truth doesn't divide the body and it doesn't splinter. You call what you say is truth, but many other Christians don't, many on both sides, is that not a problem to you?

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friend of said:

It sounds like you're using that quote as an excuse to not believe that He will return again.

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Calvin_1985 said:

I'm not on either side....neither futurist, nor preterist or anything contained within themselves. My point is not to discuss the many theories on both sides and using scriptures to bolster one side or the other, but my point is to get you to take a step out of it his debate for a minute and look at it objectively. What do you see? Fighting and tons of energy to prove either side..is that not a problem for you?

One word to contemplate...Recreation. Take a step back and think of what that means and try to see the big picture.

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dadmansabode said:

2. The second characteristic of the world to come will be ... The Sphere of Rewards

All the saints will share in it, but not all will have the same place, rank, reward or responsibility.* Some will be nearer the person of the King. Some will have a larger sphere. The difference between the parables of the talents and the pounds may be that in the first (Matt. 25) it is a question of gift and ability.
These vary with the individual, but all men, saved and unsaved alike, have gifts for which they will be held responsible.
A Balaam, a Judas, a Caiaphas may have gifts as well as a Peter, a John, or a Paul. In the parable of the pounds, it is a question of what only children of God have,
the power to serve Him which grace confers. In this sense, we are exhorted "not to receive the grace of God in vain." The man who hid his pound lost his pound. The man who hid his talent lost his soul.**
Some will have ten cities, others five according to faithfulness. The rewards will have been allotted "at the resurrection of the just" before the judgment seat of Christ but will be enjoyed in the Kingdom.
The first resurrection will extend over a period. Christ, "the first fruits," the saints who rose immediately after Him form, I judge, the first part of it, then also those who will awake from sleep when He comes and rise to meet Him in the air, and, lastly, the martyred saints of the last great tribulation. (Rev. 20).
"This is the first resurrection," as if the apostle would say, "Up to this is the first resurrection." Then all will pass in review: Mary's ointment, Doreas' garments, Epaphras' prayers, Paul's testimony, and all other life and service for the Lord. The apostles will have a special reward, they will sit on twelve thrones, judging the Twelve Tribes of Israel (Matt. 19: 28).
Some will have to run so as to obtain the incorruptible crown. To those who faithfully endure, will be assigned a crown of life; to those who love His appearing a crown of righteousness.
A crown of glory awaits faithful pastors of the flock of Christ (1 Pet. 5: 4), a crown of rejoicing, those who have won souls for Christ (1 Thess. 2: 19).

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Douggg said:

Dave, you have not answered the question.

I am asking you to name the kings that Daniel 2 says will be in existence when God brings His everlasting kingdom here to earth. You say the everlasting kingdom is a spiritual kingdom only; that there will not be a physical Kingdom of God. So name who the kings were since you claim this has already happened.

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Dave L said:

I gave a standard Reformed response. They don't think like you so what they say will not fit your theories.

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ItIsFinished! said:

Jesus absolutely IS NOT an amillennialist.

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ItIsFinished! said:

Why limit it to the gospels and epistles?
You don't realize that unfulfilled prophecy regarding Israel can only come to fruition and fulfillment with a literal physical kingdom?
What did Jesus have to say and show John regarding the Book of Revelation?
You know, things and events that haven't taken place or happened YET?
What are your thoughts regarding the Book of Revelation?

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dadmansabode said:

3. The third characteristic of the world to come will be ...
A Time of Universal Peace and Prosperity.

The promise of Isaiah will at length be fulfilled. "They will beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning-hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more" (Isa. 2: 4). But this will not be as the result of Hague conferences or Arbitration treaties but by the coming of Him "who maketh wars to cease unto the ends of the earth." But He will "make desolations" first. War from heaven will alone end war on earth. Before swords become plowshares, plowshares will have become swords. (See Joel 3: 10). The guiltiest battle ever fought will be waged when Christ returns. Man will have set himself to measure swords with God. It will be the strangest battle too, for the first act in it will be the summary judgment of the two great rebel leaders, and the last the total annihilation of their great world hosts. Then the groaning creation shall enter into rest. [Rom. 8: 19, 21.] "The wolf shall lie down with the lamb ... and the lion shall eat straw like the ox." Humanity will be relieved of its two most crushing burdens, sacerdotal religions and standing armies, and the wasted energies of men will be turned into other channels. The desert and neglected places of the earth, the dark wastes of Africa, the un-ploughed prairie lands of America, the vast virgin plains of Asia and Australia will be turned to profit. "The wilderness shall be glad and the desert shall blossom as the rose." No doubt this will apply in a special sense to the great desert lands between the Jordan and the Euphrates which are destined to form part of Emmanuel's land, a great triangle nearly as large as India, south of Calcutta and Bombay, but all lands will share in the blessing (Gen. 15: 18; Dent. 11: 24). "He shall have dominion from sea to sea, and from the river unto the ends of the earth. ... His name shall endure for ever all nations shall call Him blessed."

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