" I've got a feeling oooo ooo "

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Love is not a felling.

It's not even a feeling.

Love is a choice to do what is best for the other person.

Please learn to spell, OK?

Did you just tell me, a grown man of 45 that love is not a felling?

Stop talking to me, your starting to sound very stupid no offence.
 
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Did you just tell me, a grown man of 45 that love is not a felling?

Stop talking to me, your starting to sound very stupid no offence.

Luke 10:25-37 King James Version (KJV)
25 And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?
27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
29 But he, willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus, And who is my neighbour?
30 And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead.
31 And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.
32 And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side.
33 But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him,
34 And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him.
35 And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee.
36 Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?
37 And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.

Jesus says love is when you are aware of a need and you take care of it.

Here is another verse you need to learn:

John 13:35 King James Version (KJV)
35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
 
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Did you just tell me, a grown man of 45 that love is not a felling?

Stop talking to me, your starting to sound very stupid no offence.
Love, in the truest sense of the word, is a verb. When you or I say, "I love you.", love is a verb. When the word "love" (all Greek forms) is used in the word it's typically used that way. Examin the following scripture:
He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
John 14:21
Loving God is keeping His commandments, obeying Him or doing what He wants us to do. The warm, exciting feelings we associate with love isn't actually love. That feeling fades with time, often even before the honeymoon is over. Love is wanting the best for another even if it means you suffer loss. We humans enjoy the feelings we associate with love and that's the reason our divorce rates are so high, at least partially. There are other factors.
In Him
 
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Jesus told us to love one another, that is one of his greatest commandments, all the other commandments follow them. So, by this, that is a felling of love, so there you go, one of the greatest commandments is based on a felling of love.

I think there's merit in what you've said. I don't believe you can truly live out that mandate or the example we're shown in 1 Corinthians 13 without an abiding love for the other person. Not with constancy.

I'm remembering someone who compelled me to pray those verses on his behalf. I labored for him for years and kept him on prayer lists. There were countless times when I turned the other cheek and endured spiritual harassment on his behalf. All because I loved him. I loved his soul and spirit and desired him to have what I'd found.

I can't fathom doing the same for someone else. There's not a soul I've encountered (Christian or otherwise) who'd compel me to lay down my life in prayer for more than seven years. That takes more than a God bless you and praise the Lord. It takes an abiding manifestation of agape that doesn't quit.

The absence of the feelings you mentioned is why he's the lone example I can cite. Wanting the best for someone and sacrificing without complaint are light years apart. I've lived them both and I'd choose the latter every time.
 
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I think there's merit in what you've said. I don't believe you can truly live out that mandate or the example we're shown in 1 Corinthians 13 without an abiding love for the other person. Not with constancy.

I'm remembering someone who compelled me to pray those verses on his behalf. I labored for him for years and kept him on prayer lists. There were countless times when I turned the other cheek and endured spiritual harassment on his behalf. All because I loved him. I loved his soul and spirit and desired him to have what I'd found.

I can't fathom doing the same for someone else. There's not a soul I've encountered (Christian or otherwise) who'd compel me to lay down my life in prayer for more than seven years. That takes more than a God bless you and praise the Lord. It takes an abiding manifestation of agape that doesn't quit.

The absence of the feelings you mentioned is why he's the lone example I can cite. Wanting the best for someone and sacrificing without complaint are light years apart. I've lived them both and I'd choose the latter every time.

If the world loved each other and held the felling's of love for one another there would be no sins and all people would be perfect in the site of God.

Thank you for your comment.
 
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If the world loved each other and held the felling's of love for one another there would be no sins and all people would be perfect in the site of God.

Thank you for your comment.

I think our inability to do so illustrates our need for a Savior and dependence on God's leadership and direction. We can't get there on our own.
 
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Did you just tell me, a grown man of 45 that love is not a felling?

Stop talking to me, your starting to sound very stupid no offence.
I'm a grown man of 68.

No, love is NOT a feeling (or even a felling, as you keep on writing). It is a choice.

Feelings (fellings, to you) may accompany it after the choice is made.

Lust is a feeling, too. How do you tell the difference?
 
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Love has to be more than a feeling otherwise it's not love. We can feel a complex assortment of feelings about someone without actually loving them. I see a hungry person, and I can feel many things--compassion, sympathy, empathy, etc which are all fine and indeed good--but if I see a hungry person and can give them food and don't, I haven't loved them.

God's love for the world isn't simply that He looked upon us with a fondness and then continued without doing anything, His love is this, "For God so loved the word that He gave His only-begotten Son", and "God demonstrates His love for us in that while we were yet still sinners Christ died for us."

The command of agape is the command to give ourselves away, even as God gives Himself away.

It's not that feeling is irrelevant. I think we should look upon our neighbor with compassion, with empathy, with kindness, with sincere concern for their wellbeing. But love, love as we are supposed to have in imitation of Christ, is action, action toward the wellbeing of our neighbor.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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, "For God so loved the word that He gave His only-begotten Son", and "God demonstrates His love for us in that while we were yet still sinners Christ died for us."


-CryptoLutheran
God "loved" the world, then He took action by showing it. It sounds like love is more than an action
 
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Did you just tell me, a grown man of 45 that love is not a felling?

Stop talking to me, your starting to sound very stupid no offence.
BTW, your repeatedly writing "felling" for "feeling" doesn't make you look too bright, either.

No offence.
 
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I'm sorry, no offence but Jesus is my salvation and people do not need others to tell them and determine if there salvation is what they say it is.

Paul the apostle did just this. He warned people to examine themselves carefully to make sure they were actually saved. Why would he do this if he thought as you do that it was unnecessary to evaluate a person's claim of salvation? Merely saying, "Jesus is my salvation," doesn't make it true. Jesus remarked on this and said that there will be those at the Final Judgment who will say to him, "Lord, Lord," but to whom he will respond, "I never knew you." In Scripture, the apostles identified repeatedly those within the Church who were false converts. I don't see, then, that what you say above is biblical.

If I fill the holy spirit that does not take away my salvation.

I never said that it did. I said that if you had understood the Gospel by way of mistaken ideas about the Spirit, you may have misunderstood the Gospel, too. This is not the same as saying that "feeling the Spirit" - whatever that means - means you aren't saved.

You are starting or have started a debate on feeling the holy spirit in contraction of having forgiveness from Jesus.

Sorry, but I don't understand what you've written here.

You call it salvation, I call it being saved for my sins as every sin is forgiven but one.

I call what salvation, exactly? Being saved entails being forgiven, but there is much more to being saved than this. Much more.

And that is speaking against and denying the holy spirit.

??? You've lost me here...What is speaking against and denying the Spirit? I have done neither thing, so I don't understand your suggestion that I have.

So no ones salvation as you call it is threatened, as if felling the holy spirit is a sin, its not my sin, as I did not make myself fell this way.

The salvation of a person who is truly saved cannot be threatened, but there are many who think they are saved when they are not. Some of them will get a terrible shock when they stand before Christ at the Final Judgment and are rejected by him.

I've said that much of what some Christians claim is a manifestation of the Spirit is no such thing. It is a blasphemous thing to assert that a tingle or sensation of warmth is the Spirit when it is not. It is blasphemous to claim that the Holy Spirit has made a person convulse upon the floor, or laugh like a mad man, or cry hysterically. There is no ground whatever in the Bible for saying such things about the Holy Spirit. And yet, many Christians do so without hesitation, showing in doing so a profound lack of understanding about the nature and work of the Spirit.

I give credit to God for everything.

And my point is that in some things, you ought not to say, "This is God!" What are those things? See above. Read my earlier posts.

You have yet to offer any biblical basis for your thinking and claims about "feeling the Spirit" and you have yet to offer good justification for saying, "The Holy Spirit is making me tingle and feel a shock." As far as I can see, you simply assume, without good reason, that your claims about the Spirit must be true, ignoring entirely the possibility that you might be wrong.
 
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Paul the apostle did just this. He warned people to examine themselves carefully to make sure they were actually saved. Why would he do this if he thought as you do that it was unnecessary to evaluate a person's claim of salvation? Merely saying, "Jesus is my salvation," doesn't make it true. Jesus remarked on this and said that there will be those at the Final Judgment who will say to him, "Lord, Lord," but to whom he will respond, "I never knew you." In Scripture, the apostles identified repeatedly those within the Church who were false converts. I don't see, then, that what you say above is biblical.



I never said that it did. I said that if you had understood the Gospel by way of mistaken ideas about the Spirit, you may have misunderstood the Gospel, too. This is not the same as saying that "feeling the Spirit" - whatever that means - means you aren't saved.



Sorry, but I don't understand what you've written here.



I call what salvation, exactly? Being saved entails being forgiven, but there is much more to being saved than this. Much more.



??? You've lost me here...What is speaking against and denying the Spirit? I have done neither thing, so I don't understand your suggestion that I have.



The salvation of a person who is truly saved cannot be threatened, but there are many who think they are saved when they are not. Some of them will get a terrible shock when they stand before Christ at the Final Judgment and are rejected by him.

I've said that much of what some Christians claim is a manifestation of the Spirit is no such thing. It is a blasphemous thing to assert that a tingle or sensation of warmth is the Spirit when it is not. It is blasphemous to claim that the Holy Spirit has made a person convulse upon the floor, or laugh like a mad man, or cry hysterically. There is no ground whatever in the Bible for saying such things about the Holy Spirit. And yet, many Christians do so without hesitation, showing in doing so a profound lack of understanding about the nature and work of the Spirit.



And my point is that in some things, you ought not to say, "This is God!" What are those things? See above. Read my earlier posts.

You have yet to offer any biblical basis for your thinking and claims about "feeling the Spirit" and you have yet to offer good justification for saying, "The Holy Spirit is making me tingle and feel a shock." As far as I can see, you simply assume, without good reason, that your claims about the Spirit must be true, ignoring entirely the possibility that you might be wrong.

About claims of 'feeling the spirit' i say is almost impossible to receive like in pentecost the filling of the spirit and not feeling it. Yes the spirit can be felt perfectly, there is the presence of God too, the glory of God, the water of life, entering the Holy place too, all this can be felt.
 
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About claims of 'feeling the spirit' i say is almost impossible to receive like in pentecost the filling of the spirit and not feeling it. Yes the spirit can be felt perfectly, there is the presence of God too, the glory of God, the water of life, entering the Holy place too, all this can be felt.

As I've explained in earlier posts, I am not saying there is no direct, personal experience of God that one can have. But taking the account of Pentecost as grounds for asserting that any feeling one wants to associate with the Holy Spirit is okay is to ignore the account itself. No where in Acts 2 (or anywhere in the rest of the New Testament) are we told the disciples felt tingles, or electrical shocks, or warm oozies; the account does not say those at Pentecost were convulsed upon the ground or laughed like maniacs. The account makes no mention at all of any sensations that the disciples felt. Scripture says the Holy Spirit will convict us of sin, illuminate our minds to God's truth, comfort us, strengthen us and bring to full fruit in us the character of Christ. Never are we told in Scripture to expect to be tingled, or zapped, or warmed by the Spirit, or to be thrown down by him, or made by him to laugh or cry hysterically. So, yes, we may experience God but not in the way many believers are convinced that they are, in seeming total disregard of Scripture.
 
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BTW, your repeatedly writing "felling" for "feeling" doesn't make you look too bright, either.

No offence.

And no so called fake monk would insult others on there spelling.
 
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I'm a grown man of 68.

No, love is NOT a feeling (or even a felling, as you keep on writing). It is a choice.

Feelings (fellings, to you) may accompany it after the choice is made.

Lust is a feeling, too. How do you tell the difference?

If you can not tell the difference from lust and love, both felling's, then we need to not debate this, you need to go see a doctor.
 
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If you can not tell the difference from lust and love, both felling's, then we need to not debate this, you need to go see a doctor.
Why should I take the advice of a man who can't even spell a simple word like "feeling," or who tries to form plurals with apostrophe s?
 
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