Flat earth beliefs are totally in error.

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With your common sense, did you not even bother to do your own research with just a few mouse clicks?
I did, for many hours and after that, I still from time to time watch some videos of Flath earthers, just for fun (like some kind of sci-fi).

In at nutshell, the earth is a flat disc - much like the face of a clock with the North Pole in the center of the "clock" and Antarctica occupying the edges of the clock. The sun and moon are in the firmament as Genesis attests to, thus these two bodies of light are smaller and closer to the earth than we are brainwashed into believing. As the sun and moon move in clockwise fashion around the face of the clock they cast their light upon the face of the earth giving daylight during the day and moonlight during the night.
The sun is close and small and circles around and above the flat earth in a spiral pattern on the Tropic of Cancer in the Northern Summer months, and then down to the Tropic of Capricorn in the Northern Winter Months. So when the sun is further away from the North Pole, it’s winter in the north and summer in the south.
I suggest you inform yourself, do your own due diligence which I assume you are capable of doing and come to your own conclusion.
Do few mouse clicks and see that such model does not work :)

 
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I don't think that the model is specific to any dates..
So why are there dates?

There are multiple examples of this model..
Because these examples are made up.

As for phases of the moon... if you really want to see a thread.. open one about the moon creating it's own light and not reflecting the sun at all.
No, I do not want to see a thread, I want to see a working flat earth model that explains our daily life and we can use it to make predictions about moon phases, eclipses etc. based on it.

With the standard model, we can predict movement of any object in space.

With the standard model, we can even predict eclipses with the precision to seconds. It simply works.

With the Flat Earth, we do not even know what eclipses are, not to say predict them.
 
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Figure of speech ... do you disagree ?
In that case making humanity from dust, "earth hangs on nothing" or "circle of the earth" are also a figure of speech, do you agree?

If not, on what basis you decide what is and what is not? If you say "based on conterporary science, based on our observation of the world", then Bible is not your perfect and highest authority, right? But you explain the Bible according to your experience and knowledge.
 
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So why are there dates?


Because these examples are made up.


No, I do not want to see a thread, I want to see a working flat earth model that explains our daily life and we can use it to make predictions about moon phases, eclipses etc. based on it.

With the standard model, we can predict movement of any object in space.

With the standard model, we can even predict eclipses with the precision to seconds. It simply works.

With the Flat Earth, we do not even know what eclipses are, not to say predict them.
So are you saying that unless you know these things you will not have faith in God and that He is in control?

And if you want to know these answers so badly then what work have you done personally to investigate into these answers? You sound lazy by expecting that others will simply give you the answers without you needing to do your own work...like seriously brother...have you even bothered using a bible engine and type in the word 'weather' or 'wind' or 'rain', etc.? Like we are not living in the days where we have no computers and had to do everything by hand.

Have you asked God for the answers instead of always relying on yourself or other men and women for the answers?
 
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So are you saying that unless you know these things you will not have faith in God and that He is in control?
No. I am saying that unless the Flat Earth works, I will not have faith in it.

And if you want to know these answers so badly then what work have you done personally to investigate into these answers? You sound lazy...
Ooooh no, again. Because your models do not work, I am lazy.


Have you asked God for the answers instead of always relying on yourself or other men and women for the answers?
Now I am confused. So am I lazy to do the proper research or am I not supposed to rely on that and simply ask God for answers?

Please, decide what you want from me.
 
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No. I am saying that unless the Flat Earth works, I will not have faith in it.


Ooooh no, again. Because your models do not work, I am lazy.



Now I am confused. So am I lazy to do the proper research or am I not supposed to rely on that and simply ask God for answers?

Please, decide what you want from me.
Those questions are rhetorical brother...the main theme of those questions is asking you, What work have you done to get the answers?
 
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Those questions are rhetorical brother...the main theme of those questions is asking you, What work have you done to get the answers?
What work have you done that you still do not have the answers?

(answers that actually work)
 
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The work I have done has been shown to everyone here on thus site and this thread to prove only from the Word of God that He does not support a globe, He does not support a heliocentric model, He does not support any earth other than a flat earth which He created, and I proved from scripture how and why the earth does not move and why and how the Sun, Moon and stars move around it, and I have proven with shapes the nature of the earth and backed it up with scripture, and how God supports a geocentric model.
 
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Well, I am not a scientist, I do not have the answers.

I build on many centuries and generations of knowledge, i.e. on laws, observations, tests etc of others, who specialize in the field.

Their solution (globe earth in heliocentric system) gives simple answers to everything we observe in our daily life.

You, not mentioning that you are unwilling to give any solution, do not have any working answers for our daily life. You just emotionally stick to literal reading of ancient texts, but thats not an answer to my practical questions.

Also, I somehow doubt you really believe the stuff. I suspect that if you will have a problem with concentration, sleep and similar, you will not tell doctors "do not test my brain, test kidneys instead, because Bible says so".
Yes, yes...centuries of knowledge tell us that we have 365 Days = 1 Year...which is very odd because 52 Weeks = 1 Year and 1 Week = 7 Days...so the ancients were either really bad at math or lying...because basic arithmetic says...

52 Weeks x 7 Days = 364 Days per Year

And for some reason people on this thread and in universities don't understand the difference between a circle and a sphere...which is really sad...and some sadder still don't understand that when you lay a foundation down it never moves: therefore the building on it never moves either...and these same people don't understand that because God laid a foundation for the earth: that the earth does not move...I mean...we are discussing very elementary things that my 5 and 2 Year old understand with no problem...
 
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Yes, yes...centuries of knowledge tell us that we have 365 Days = 1 Year...which is very odd because 52 Weeks = 1 Year and 1 Week = 7 Days...so the ancients were either really bad at math or lying...because basic arithmetic says...

52 Weeks x 7 Days = 364 Days per Year

And for some reason people on this thread and in universities don't understand the difference between a circle and a sphere...which is really sad...and some sadder still don't understand that when you lay a foundation down it never moves: therefore the building on it never moves either...and these same people don't understand that because God laid a foundation for the earth: that the earth does not move...I mean...we are discussing very elementary things that my 5 and 2 Year old understand with no problem...
Not sure what you want to say. The Flath Earth does not work. You are unable to make it work. You have no answers to our basic observation of sun, moon, eclipses, seasons etc.

So, the Flat Earth idea is not useful in any way. You believe it not because it works, but because you think you must take Bible literally or else something horrible will happen to you.
 
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Yes, yes...centuries of knowledge tell us that we have 365 Days = 1 Year...which is very odd because 52 Weeks = 1 Year and 1 Week = 7 Days...so the ancients were either really bad at math or lying...because basic arithmetic says...

52 Weeks x 7 Days = 364 Days per Year

And for some reason people on this thread and in universities don't understand the difference between a circle and a sphere...which is really sad...and some sadder still don't understand that when you lay a foundation down it never moves: therefore the building on it never moves either...and these same people don't understand that because God laid a foundation for the earth: that the earth does not move...I mean...we are discussing very elementary things that my 5 and 2 Year old understand with no problem...

And then, some people dont truly grasp science! Plus, they misinterpret scripture!
 
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And when Bible says 4 corners, you have a problem, right?

(a circle does not have corners)
Wow...finally something we can agree on...the Circle does not have corners correct nor is a square a circle
 
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Wow...finally something we can agree on...the Circle does not have corners correct nor is a square a circle
Great. So, how do you deal with this biblical contradiction?
 
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It's flat
Oh, now all scientists can stop working.

Please, describe what you see at least to the extend of explaining how day/night, seasons, moon phases and eclipses work so that we can build better satellites, better spaceships, better planes etc.
 
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Great. So, how do you deal with this biblical contradiction?
There is no contradiction to deal with because the Bible studs the earth is four sided while the waters and the heavens are circular
 
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