pasifika
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Hello, thank you for being patient,...now I have this picture of where you're coming from in terms of your belief..I didn't say it is HER REMNANT......I said as per the scripture, it's the REMNANT of HER SEED which is Jesus Christ. Meaning that they were the Remnant Church OF Jesus Christ, not of Israel, but of Israel's PROMISED SEED. Wouldn't you say the CHURCH is of Christ ? So the Remnant Church on earth whilst the Raptured Church is in Heaven would be of HER SEED Jesus Christ.
Galatians 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. 15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.
16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. 17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
The PROMISED SEED was Jesus, he was the SEED of Israel.
Rev. 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman {Israel or the 1/3 who REPENT}, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed{Jesus' Church are IN Heaven, those who REPENTED after the Rapture are ON EARTH as he Remnant Church of Jesus Christ}, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
These are the points I have gather from our discussion.
(1) Church (body of Christ) includes both Israel/Jews and Gentiles. There is only ONE BODY therefore One Church
(2) Remnant in Rev12:17-refers only to Gentiles church here on earth who repented after the Rapture.
(3)The other part of the church is in heaven (probably Gentiles church or both)- at the RAPTURE..
(4) The other part of the church is the 1/3 Jews/Israel also here on earth which the dragon cannot harm them. God protects them..
The reason why I used the word part referring to the churches is because they are at different places (1 in heaven and 2 here on earth)
So, Question 1: Are any of the dead who are in Christ part of ther Rapture or just the one who are living when this event happens?
Question 2: Since the Rapture involves people (Gentiles church) who are alive then therefore their bodies must be changed to immortal or heavenly body! Therefore we can say that only part of the body of Christ puts on immortality the other parts (1/3 Israel/Jews and remnant church) still on earthly bodies..Hebrew 11:40 "since God had planned something better for us so that Only TOGETHER with Us would they made perfect"
(3) could you provide scriptures that distinguish the Rapture from the second coming?
Thank you
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