Bold Prediction: Over-the-phone ministered healing to a specific member of this community!

Oscarr said:

There is absolutely nothing wrong with having faith in God's power to heal a sick person. The Scripture is quite clear about that: "Have faith in God. Truly I tell you that if anyone says to this mountain, ‘Be lifted up and thrown into the sea,’ and has no doubt in his heart but believes that it will happen, it will be done for him" (Mark 11:22). Notice that the reference starts with have faith in God. This is where faith has to be always directed. Faith has no power of its own. Faith links us with God's power.

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On this point we agree. Thanks.

Oscarr said:

Now, having said that, this is the way I would handle the sick person's healing. The first thing I would say is that I can't heal anyone, not even a flea with a headache; but I believe that Jesus heals people, and I am prepared to be obedient to God's Word when it says: "They shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover." Then I tell the sick person that I can speak to the part of the body that is not functioning properly and tell it to resume its normal function, and I do that. Then I say, "Jesus heals you." If I think there is a spirit of infirmity there, I will cast it out. Then I tell the person that I have been obedient to God's Word, and we can leave the results to Jesus.

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Again I agree. Many of your statements show authority being exercised. (see bold)
You have been obedient to God's word to exercise your God-given authority over sickness and demonic influence.

Oscarr said:

Notice that Jesus prayed to His Father before ordering Lazarus to come out of the grave. He did not do it without conferring with His Father first. This is because Jesus came not to do His own will but His Father's will. Once He knew that it was the Father's will that Lazarus be brought back to life, Jesus had confidence to order Lazarus to come out.

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This is a very good point and is obviously the best way to minister.
But sometimes the sick and demonized present themselves to us with no prior warning.
In that case we are authorized to do kingdom business in Jesus' name. No need to wait for a green light go-ahead.

Saint Steven said:

This is a very point and is obviously the best way to minister.
But sometimes the sick and demonized present themselves to us with no prior warning.
In that case we are authorized to do kingdom business in Jesus' name. No need to wait for a green light go-ahead.

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Absolutely! This is where the Scripture: "Be instant in season and out of season" (1 Timothy 4:2) would definitely apply. If we are having constant fellowship with God and walking in the Spirit, then we would be instantly anointed to handle any demon that might manifest.

Oscarr said:

We have 2000 years of garbage in our churches that needs to be cleaned out before we can regain the Holy Spirit power those original Apostles had.

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I agree. We are in rebuilding mode.
We have lost something and are working to regain it. On the positive side, this next generation is growing up strong in the Lord. We are seeing toddlers praying for the sick. Imagine where these kids will be in ten or twenty years. Exciting times ahead.

Oscarr said:

All He has told me to date is to put my hands on the wrist of any sick person who comes across my path who accepts it, and just say "Jesus heals you", and then leave the result to Him. He has not told me to expect miraculous, instant healing for anyone, and until He does, very clearly, then I won't.

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Acts 3:4-6
Peter looked straight at him, as did John. Then Peter said, “Look at us!” 5 So the man gave them his attention, expecting to get something from them. 6 Then Peter said, “Silver or gold I do not have, but what I do have I give you. In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, walk.”

Strong in Him said:

I'm not presuming anything.
If this person had been physically healed, in the way that Johnny was expecting, he'd be back posting on here again. That's what he said; "I'm not posting til he's been healed."

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What outcome do you anticipate?

RaymondG said:

This is an assumption...which should be respected just as much as the assumptions given by the ones who oppose the OP. Unless we are the OP'er there is no way to determine the heart of the writer by the words written

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Acting under God-given kingdom authority to administer healing is an assumption?
An assumption of what? God-given kingdom authority to administer healing?

Oscarr said:

Absolutely! This is where the Scripture: "Be instant in season and out of season" (1 Timothy 4:2) would definitely apply. If we are having constant fellowship with God and walking in the Spirit, then we would be instantly anointed to handle any demon that might manifest.

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I would say our authority is not conditional once we have it.
Otherwise, how do we measure these things? Example...

I'm having a bad day and have fallen into a wrong mindset and have even acting on it and now have unconfessed sin in my life. I know I need to deal with it but am still stewing about it.

A ministry opportunity presents itself. What do I do? Is a sick person healed and delivered based on my merit, or on God-given authority? Do I tell them I can't minister right now, or meet their need?

Saint Steven said:

Do you have respect for those who succumb to social pressure when they were right?

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Can we ask a question which iv often wondered.. (Basis from which i ask... Have and do pray for the sick (often the unsaved) and have often seen both instant healing and /or amazing recovery.

The question iv often asked openly is.when is it sickness?
When is it healing needed vs when is it a miracle needed. Do they differ?

My wife ambulates by use of a crutch since a child.
She also lays hands on the sick and they get healed.
I.e. they are in present suffering of pain a d are tornented by that pain in many ways.
We lay hands on and pray.they are set free and no longer in suffering .the sick are healed (these signs will follow those that believe. Note: we dont follow the signs they follow our action of faith.
When a person is in pain.it is love that reaches out the hand to heal.
Do we EVER needs The father's leading or permission to love?
NO NO NO.. WE are to ALWAYS love.. There is no time period restraints on Godly love.
That would be like saying the good samaritan should have passed on by because it migt not be time for the robbed victim to be helped.maybe he did something to deserve it etc .. Sorry @Strong in Him , but thats hinduism not Jesus.

Sometimes people after being healed have said to my wife "what about you" ..her reply is " im not sick im not in pain im very healthy.
" but we are praying for the miracle for the lame to walk.
So i ask the question.. Is there difference between healing of sick
And miracles?

Im going to say perhaps.. And keep praying for the sick anyway ,at all times sharing the Gospel in season and out of season. Because Jesus said to..and we love him.

Saint Steven said:

I would say our authority is not conditional once we have it.
Otherwise, how do we measure these things? Example...

I'm having a bad day and have fallen into a wrong mindset and have even acting on it and now have unconfessed sin in my life. I know I need to deal with it but am still stewing about it.

A ministry opportunity presents itself. What do I do? Is a sick person healed and delivered based on my merit, or on God-given authority? Do I tell them I can't minister right now, or meet their need?

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You'd have to pray a quick prayer of confession, which you would do, so that your account is immediately cleared with God. That's no problem.

The sick person is healed and delivered by the power of God and for the glory of Christ, and not on our merit. Our merit consists in this:
"I'm just a poor sinner, and nothing at all,
but Jesus Christ is my all in all".

This is on the basis of the Scripture: "For it is we who are the circumcision, we who serve God by his Spirit, who boast in Christ Jesus, and who put no confidence in the flesh" (Philippians 3:3).

Actually, the very fact that you are feeling like death warmed up is a very good thing because in that state you sense your total dependence on the power of God to achieve the result, and because you don't feel you have any faith, but act on what you believe anyway, it shows that you are exercising the right kind of faith, because your faith is in the power of God and not in your ability to have faith (if you know what I mean).

Saint Steven said:

I would say our authority is not conditional once we have it.
Otherwise, how do we measure these things? Example...

I'm having a bad day and have fallen into a wrong mindset and have even acting on it and now have unconfessed sin in my life. I know I need to deal with it but am still stewing about it.

A ministry opportunity presents itself. What do I do? Is a sick person healed and delivered based on my merit, or on God-given authority? Do I tell them I can't minister right now, or meet their need?

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you minister healing based upon the truth of the word of God.
Never use our feelings as a foundation ..they are carnal fleshly and quicksand.
Jesus did not base obedience to the father on his emotional state..his emotions pleaded to be excused from the fathers will.
He Did the right thing because he loved the father.not because it felt tingly and annointed.
That entire flesh feeling annointing teaching is..im sorry but, for the most part .carnal minded hogwash and false teaching.
To be annointed is to be appointed.. This seeking of ongoing annointings which led to rediculous behaviours of grave soaking is a erronious understanding sought after by those who want signs without sacrifice.

Alithis said:

Can we ask a question which iv often wondered.. (Basis from which i ask... Have and do pray for the sick (often the unsaved) and have often seen both instant healing and /or amazing recovery.

The question iv often asked openly is.when is it sickness?
When is it healing needed vs when is it a miracle needed. Do they differ?

My wife ambulates by use of a crutch since a child.
She also lays hands on the sick and they get healed.
I.e. they are in present suffering of pain a d are tornented by that pain in many ways.
We lay hands on and pray.they are set free and no longer in suffering .the sick are healed (these signs will follow those that believe. Note: we dont follow the signs they follow our action of faith.
When a person is in pain.it is love that reaches out the hand to heal.
Do we EVER needs The father's leading or permission to love?
NO NO NO.. WE are to ALWAYS love.. There is no time period restraints on Godly love.
That would be like saying the good samaritan should have passed on by because it migt not be time for the robbed victim to be helped.maybe he did something to deserve it etc .. Sorry @Strong in Him , but thats hinduism not Jesus.

Sometimes people after being healed have said to my wife "what about you" ..her reply is " im not sick im not in pain im very healthy.
" but we are praying for the miracle for the lame to walk.
So i ask the question.. Is there difference between healing of sick
And miracles?

Im going to say perhaps.. And keep praying for the sick anyway ,at all times sharing the Gospel in season and out of season. Because Jesus said to..and we love him.

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When it says "they shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover", it shows that the person will not get sicker, but will be on the road to recovery. Recovery takes time. This is why we don't see immediate results when we pray for the sick.

A miracle is when the sick or disabled person is totally healed on the spot. This is not recovery, but an instant miracle of healing and wholeness.

This is why there is a distinction between the gifts of healing and the gift of the working of miracles. They are two different types of ministry.

By the way, if there are any lingering doubts that it is God's will to heal, Jesus said that He did not come to do His own will but the will of His Father in heaven.
Then He went out and healed everyone who came across His path or to Him for healing. This shows conclusively that it is God's will to heal everyone who comes to Him for it. It is just that Jesus did it a lot better than we do!

Oscarr said:

When it says "they shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover", it shows that the person will not get sicker, but will be on the road to recovery. Recovery takes time. This is why we don't see immediate results when we pray for the sick.

A miracle is when the sick or disabled person is totally healed on the spot. This is not recovery, but an instant miracle of healing and wholeness.

This is why there is a distinction between the gifts of healing and the gift of the working of miracles. They are two different types of ministry.

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1....its the ministry of the Gospel.
Only people divided it into sections because they like to do the fun part but not preach the gospel because healing is fun but when you get to the sword of truth it cuts and people reject them so they are not willing to pay that price and to avoid it they catagorise the gospel into sections and excuse themselves from the hard parts. Its wrong . i know you agree because youve said healing is to bring the gospel.. (I think) and i 100%agree.
2 often a sickness comes on a person in 1 or 2 hours.. They were fine.2 hours later they feel like crap. So was it a miricle that took 2 hours to get them feeling like crap? (Am i alowwed to use .The term "crap"? Its not offensive in my circles).. No, no miricle. So yes..we can expect them to recover in less then 2 hours
I love praying for toddlers with fever..iv seen them get up eat and play in 15 minutes love it.

Oscarr said:

By the way, if there are any lingering doubts that it is God's will to heal, Jesus said that He did not come to do His own will but the will of His Father in heaven.
Then He went out and healed everyone who came across His path or to Him for healing. This shows conclusively that it is God's will to heal everyone who comes to Him for it. It is just that Jesus did it a lot better than we do!

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a heart heart hearty AMEN
WE are disciples...apprentices learning our lord and teachers trade.
The work of our fathers house...learning

Oscarr said:

By the way, if there are any lingering doubts that it is God's will to heal, Jesus said that He did not come to do His own will but the will of His Father in heaven.
Then He went out and healed everyone who came across His path or to Him for healing. This shows conclusively that it is God's will to heal everyone who comes to Him for it. It is just that Jesus did it a lot better than we do!

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We should strive then to meet the standard. Amen?

Oscarr said:

"I'm just a poor sinner, and nothing at all,
but Jesus Christ is my all in all".

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Scripture never calls the redeemed " just a poor sinner" ... If we are knowingly repeatedly practicing sin .. We are not yet free from it. Not saved.
Lets not use self excusing terminology that disagrees with All Jesus has done.

Strong in Him said:

No, I'm asking you to reconcile two facts - you state God always heals; evangelist who believed in God's healing did not receive it but died of cancer.

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Are they presently healed? lol
How can you claim they did not receive their healing? (unbelief)

Strong in Him said:

Dismissing my question as unbelief might excuse you from answering it, when you can't. But any non Christian sincerely struggling with the issue who wanted an answer, would not be satisfied and feel fobbed off.

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Sorry. Your question is a claim slip for the window that says UNBELIEF. I don't want it.

God wants everyone to be healed.
On that basis we should work toward 100 percent success to fulfill God's will.
Anything short is failure on our part. God never fails.