In Daniel the AC overthrows 3 kings/horns. In Revelation this does not happen. Why?

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...Again, the 10 horns are symbolic and thus illustrating certain characteristics or aspects. They are not actual horns, nor actual literal kings, they merely represent something...
In the conference of Abbot Serapion (Chapter 5 of St John Cassian's Conferences) he speaks of the seven (eight if you include gluttony) principal evils (gluttony, fornication, avarice, anger, dejection, acedia, vainglory and pride) that the saints war against, prefigured in the seven kingdoms Israel conquered, though to Abraham God promised to give the land of ten kingdoms (Genesis 15:18-21). This 'discrepancy' is explained as follows:

When the Lord was speaking with Abraham about the future (a point which you did not ask about) we find that He did not enumerate seven nations, but ten, whose land He promised to give to his seed (Genesis 15:18-21). And this number is plainly made up by adding idolatry, and blasphemy, to whose dominion, before the knowledge of God and the grace of Baptism, both the irreligious hosts of the Gentiles and blasphemous ones of the Jews were subject, while they dwelt in a spiritual Egypt. But when a man has made his renunciation and come forth from thence, and having by God's grace conquered gluttony, has come into the spiritual wilderness, then he is free from the attacks of these three, and will only have to wage war against those seven which Moses enumerates.​
 
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The three plucked up takes place before the 7 years begin. They are replaced, and there will be ten when the 7 years begin.


There is only one set of ten kingdoms and kings who receive kingdoms one hour with the last beast of this age. Daniels 4th beast is the same last beast found in Rev 13:1.

There is no such thing as ten kings of a beast, then 3 are gone, then 3 magically coming back with no mention of this anywhere in scripture.
 
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The Little Horn comes 2000 years after the Fourth Beast showed up and then fell.

That's obviously not scriptural and doesn't match any of the wording or context in Daniel 7.
 
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That's obviously not scriptural and doesn't match any of the wording or context in Daniel 7.
It matches, you just don't understand it.

You aren't seriously saying Rome has been a Beast for 2000 years are you ?

The problem with thee riddles is Gd waited until the End Times to reveal them and too many people are living off old understandings. God is giving the answers now to all those that seek His truths.

Daniel 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Verse 25 is of course speaking about the Little Horn/Anti-Christ and the END TIMES.

Verse 23 says Rome {Fourth Beast} will be different from ALL THE BEASTS, v=but that is not surprising since verse 3 says ALL THE BEASTS were different from each other. People miss these small but important clues because of tunnel vision.

Dan. 7:3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.

So verse 23 says that the Forth Beast is DIFFERENT/Diverse from all the other Beasts is no surprise, verse 3 told us they were all going to be different from each other !! BUT the real clue is in verse 24, and almost no one catches it..........

We already know the For Beasts are different from each other, bit verse 24 is not speaking about that again, verse 23 told us that, verse 24 is speaking abut the TWO BEASTS which come out of the Fourth Beasts territory. Notice it says the Little Horn that Arises is different from THE FIRST, not ALL THE BEASTS like verse 23 says !!

The Fourth Kingdom has Two Beasts.

Rome, which had the Mortal Wound and turned from a Beast to a kitty who took the Gospel the world over, ot had a Mortal Wound as per Satan's Works, as per Satan trying to have a One World Government. As long as the Church was around the One World Government nonsense had no hope, the gates of hell can not prevail against the Church. We killed the Beast. Only when we are Raptured can the Beast come back on the scene, thus we are that which thwarts Satan and keeps him from having a One World Gov. in 2 Thess. 2, when we are Raptured he will be able to bring forth his 10 Kings and Anti-Christ via the European Union.

Thus the Little Horn will indeed be DIFFERENT from the First Beast like verse 24 says, because he will be THE BEAST, the kingdom will not be the Beast. He will be the only King that AROSE as the Beast and FELL as the Beast. That is why we are given the Rev. 17 understanding via the Mountains, they ARISE...........Then the 7 Kings FALL..........Only this ONE MAN, bth arises as the Beast and FALLS, thus he is indeed different from the First Beast of the Fourth Kingdom {Rome}. This Man is cast straight into hell.
 
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You aren't seriously saying Rome has been a Beast for 2000 years are you ?

I haven't said anything remotely close to that so the question never had any basis to be asked.
 
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There is only one set of ten kingdoms and kings who receive kingdoms one hour with the last beast of this age. Daniels 4th beast is the same last beast found in Rev 13:1.

There is no such thing as ten kings of a beast, then 3 are gone, then 3 magically coming back with no mention of this anywhere in scripture.
It says ten kings in the text, not ten kingdoms.

The ten kings of the of the fourth kingdom are not in place yet. There is a lot of activity in the news regarding the EU and brexit heading that was fast though.
 
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The Little Horn is a BEAST............
The little horn person becomes the beast in the middle part of the 7 years.

1. The little horn starts as the leader of the EU

2. Then becomes the prince who shall come (transitional role to becoming the Antichrist)

3. Then becomes the Antichrist, King of Israel, begins the 7 years.

4. Then is revealed as the man of sin, disowned as the King of Israel. (transitional role, being the Antichrist over, to becoming the beast)

5. Then becomes the beast
 
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The little horn person becomes the beast in the middle part of the 7 years.

1. The little horn starts as the leader of the EU

2. Then becomes the prince who shall come (transitional role to becoming the Antichrist)

3. Then becomes the Antichrist, King of Israel, begins the 7 years.

4. Then is revealed as the man of sin, disowned as the King of Israel. (transitional role, being the Antichrist over, to becoming the beast)

5. Then becomes the beast

He is the President of the E.U., he is the Little Horn, he will be the Little Horn and the Anti-Christ when he is born {WAS BORN}, and he will be THE BEAST when the First Seal is opened at the 3.5 year mark, but NOWHERE in the bible does it says he ever becomes King of Israel Douggg, that comes from you brother.
 
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He is the President of the E.U., he is the Little Horn, he will be the Little Horn and the Anti-Christ when he is born {WAS BORN}, and he will be THE BEAST when the First Seal is opened at the 3.5 year mark, but NOWHERE in the bible does it says he ever becomes King of Israel Douggg, that comes from you brother.
Mark 15:32 Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross, that we may see and believe. And they that were crucified with him reviled him.

John 12:13 Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord.

RT, how come is it, that you think "Christ the King of the Roman Empire" ? When it says in the text - King of Israel.
 
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There is only one set of ten kingdoms and kings who receive kingdoms one hour with the last beast of this age. Daniels 4th beast is the same last beast found in Rev 13:1.

There is no such thing as ten kings of a beast, then 3 are gone, then 3 magically coming back with no mention of this anywhere in scripture.
There is no any such thing as "ten kings of a beast" term.

The ten kings of the fourth empire (the fourth beast) and the little horn come to power before the 7years begin. There is no way of knowing how far before; maybe months, maybe years.

There is also no way of knowing when the three kings are removed. And replaced. But there is a way of knowing that the three kings will be replaced before the seven years begin.

In Revelation 12 is the 7 years. I get that from Revelation 12:6 the 1260 days plus in Revelation 12:14 the time,times, half times to get the 7 years.

In Revelation 12:3, the beast (represented by Satan) has 7 heads with crowns, indicating that the prophecy of the 7 kings had been fulfilled before the 7 years begin. The little horn is king 7, the one yet to come, who must continue for a short space, in Revelation 17:10.

Since the little horn is in place before the 7 years begin, the ten kings which precede him in Daniel 7:24 must also be in place before the 7 years begin.

Since there are the "ten" horns in Revelation 12:3 before the seven years begin, not seven, then the removal and replacement of the three kings has to take place before the 7 years begin.
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There is only one set of ten kingdoms and kings who receive kingdoms one hour with the last beast of this age. Daniels 4th beast is the same last beast found in Rev 13:1.

There is no such thing as ten kings of a beast, then 3 are gone, then 3 magically coming back with no mention of this anywhere in scripture.
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Revelation 17:10 > the yet to come king (7) > Revelation 12:3 the heads have their crowns, completing the prophecy of the 7 kings in Revelation 17:10, which there are the 7 years in the text of Revelation 12. The little horn, thus, has to be in power before the 7 years begin.

Revelation 17:3
7 heads - no crowns
10 horns - no crowns
(the sixth head ruling at the time of John 1st century)

Revelation 12:3
7 heads - crowns
10 horns - no crowns
(the 7 years in Revelation 12)

Revelation 13:1
7 heads - no crowns
1 head wounded mortally but come back to life
10 horns - crowns
(the last 42 months in Revelation 13)

No one can
understand bible end times prophecies without learning the meaning to those.
 
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