What commandments is Jesus talking about?

ace of hearts said:

I don't think you agree because you preach the law is a requirement.

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Saint Steven said:

Good idea.

Hebrews 8:7, 13
7 For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another. ...
13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.

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How about this one:

Acts 24:14
"And yet I confess this, that in the same doctrine of which they speak, I serve The God of my fathers, as I believe all things which are written in The Written Law and in The Prophets.”

Tone said:

Are you sure you don't fear the law?

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Heb 12:18 For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest,



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ace of hearts said:

Obviously I don't. I've read the complete Bible word for word. I don't find any obligation to keep the law for salvation or to maintain it. If you do I'd like you to post it.

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Yet again, I have never said such

Saint Steven said:

Law is law. You can't bend it to your will. It doesn't bend, it only breaks.
It's not a buffet line where you can pick a dab of this and a dab of that.
It's ALL or NOTHING. Choose wisely.

Galatians 5:3
Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law.

James 2:10
For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

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No one could ever keep the entire law, since some laws were only for priests, other laws only for women, etc

ace of hearts said:

No you promote the law.

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Listen, is it OK to murder, steal, commit adultery, etc? Do you do these things? Do you promote them? If not, then you follow the law. Simple...

ace of hearts said:

That's unfounded personal opinion.

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Those are His own words, not opinion. It is up to you if you want to believe them or not

ace of hearts said:

OK by me. That continuation is called Christianity which is drastically different with a different covenant.

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It was called The Way originally, a Jewish sect. Christianity is from a Greek term (Christianoi) used for followers of Christos (or those belonging to Christos).

ace of hearts said:

Yes I do. Adherents of Judaism haven't accepted the Messiah.

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LOL, tell that to all the Apostles!

Tone said:

How about this one:

Acts 24:14
"And yet I confess this, that in the same doctrine of which they speak, I serve The God of my fathers, as I believe all things which are written in The Written Law and in The Prophets.”

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As do I, but...

1 Timothy 1:7-8
They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm. 8 We know that the law is good if one uses it properly.
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Compare your verse which includes the term "The Written Law and in The Prophets" (the books of) with these two.

Matthew 5:17
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

Luke 24:44
He said to them, “This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.”

Yeshua HaDerekh said:

No one could ever keep the entire law, since some laws were only for priests, other laws only for women, etc

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How much of it do you recommend keeping?
Was the law intended to be a self-styled choose-your-own-law activity?

BABerean2 said:

Heb 12:18 For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest,

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Let's view the context on this one.

I love the contrast of the "You have not come" and the "But you have come" statements. And what it says about the law and the heavenly Jerusalem. Choose your mountain. Sinai or Zion.

Hebrews 12:18-24
You have not come to a mountain that can be touched and that is burning with fire; to darkness, gloom and storm; 19 to a trumpet blast or to such a voice speaking words that those who heard it begged that no further word be spoken to them, 20 because they could not bear what was commanded: “If even an animal touches the mountain, it must be stoned to death.” 21 The sight was so terrifying that Moses said, “I am trembling with fear.”
22 But you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly, 23 to the church of the firstborn, whose names are written in heaven. You have come to God, the Judge of all, to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, 24 to Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.

Yeshua HaDerekh said:

LOL, tell that to all the Apostles!

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He said, "Adherents of Judaism haven't accepted the Messiah."
The Apostles weren't "Adherents of Judaism". Christianity happened outside of Judaism. (not within it) Two separate religions. Jews wanted nothing to do with Christianity. It was offensive to them. The Jews that came out of Judaism followed Jesus as he deconstructed the law piece by piece. It began even before Christ entered his public ministry.

Until John. Then what? Something stopped. Something started. The replacement.

Matthew 11:13
For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John.

Yeshua HaDerekh said:

It was called The Way originally, a Jewish sect. Christianity is from a Greek term (Christianoi) used for followers of Christos (or those belonging to Christos).

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Which was not made known to people in other generations.
But has now been revealed by the Spirit to God’s holy apostles and prophets.

Ephesians 3:4-6
In reading this, then, you will be able to understand my insight into the mystery of Christ, 5 which was not made known to people in other generations as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to God’s holy apostles and prophets. 6 This mystery is that through the gospel the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel, members together of one body, and sharers together in the promise in Christ Jesus.

Yeshua HaDerekh said:

It was called The Way originally, a Jewish sect. Christianity is from a Greek term (Christianoi) used for followers of Christos (or those belonging to Christos).

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It is the promise of the "New Covenant" made to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:18-24.

It it the "children of the promise", instead of the children of the flesh in Romans 9:6-8.

It is the "remnant" in Romans 9:27, and Romans 11:1-5.

It is the seed promise made to Abraham in Genesis 12:3, found fulfilled in Galatians 3:16-29.
I am Abraham's seed and inheritor of the promise, through Christ.

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Saint Steven said:

How can you claim that these are not the law from God?

Deuteronomy 29:1
These are the terms of the covenant the Lord commanded Moses to make with the Israelites in Moab, in addition to the covenant he had made with them at Horeb.

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What do you mean by “these”? If your referring to the actual commandments given by God then yes those are the law. If your referring to the laws that were written by the Pharisees there were many additions they added to God’s actual commandments. Like for example where does God command us to worship on the sabbath?

ace of hearts said:

I key on "...but he who does the will of My Father..." Is a commandment of God, God's will?

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The commandment itself is God’s will but our keeping it is our’s. Ultimately we choose whether or not to adhere to the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

Saint Steven said:

Was the law intended to be a self-styled choose-your-own-law activity?

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The laws were intended to whom they were intended for. A man could not keep laws only intended for woman...

BABerean2 said:

It is the promise of the "New Covenant" made to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:18-24.

It it the "children of the promise", instead of the children of the flesh in Romans 9:6-8.

It is the "remnant" in Romans 9:27, and Romans 11:1-5.

It is the seed promise made to Abraham in Genesis 12:3, found fulfilled in Galatians 3:16-29.
I am Abraham's seed and inheritor of the promise, through Christ.

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Through faith

BNR32FAN said:

What do you mean by “these”? If your referring to the actual commandments given by God then yes those are the law.

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In Post #729 You wrote:
"... The mosaic law has many additions that were not actual commandments of God. …"

In Post # 743 I asked:
Where is the "mosaic law" found?
You replied:
"Exodus, Leviticus, and Deuteronomy are most of it."

In Post #748 I wrote:
How can you claim that these are not the law from God?

Deuteronomy 29:1
These are the terms of the covenant the Lord commanded Moses to make with the Israelites in Moab, in addition to the covenant he had made with them at Horeb.