My boyfriend is Muslim and he is making me doubt my faith...

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Controlling is in and of itself a very dangerous sign. I would recommend against getting married to anyone who is controlling. Having said that, I do not agree with those who automatically rule out marrying all non-Christians.

It really depends on how important faith is to you.

If faith isn't that important to you, then sure, marry someone who is not of the same faith.

If faith is important to you, then you marry someone of the same faith.

That goes with ANY BELIEF that is important to you.

If I value education, then why on Earth would I marry someone who despises education?
If I value charity and helping my fellow man, why on Earth would I marry a Scrouge type opposed to helping others?

If you value being treated fairly and with respect, why would you marry someone who belittles you and abuses you...

I 100% stand by my post. If you are a Christian and your faith is important to you, then marrying a non-Christian who will oppose, undercut, and belittle your faith at every opportunity is beyond stupid, it is dangerous. You set yourself up for failure and divorce not to mention the daily stress that will put on you... Why would you choose that? There are plenty of people out there you can marry, why not pick someone you are compatible with...

Now, if you are Christian and you marry someone who faith is not important to them and they don't care one way or the other how you raise your children and they treat your faith with respect then sure, you can marry that person. However, people like that are rare. Oftentimes, non-believers will undercut your faith or belittle your faith. They grate on your nerves, like a tiny pebble stuck in your shoe. At first, it may not seem like a big deal, but with every step that tiny pebble becomes more annoying until one day you can't take it anymore and you rip your shoe off, grab that pebble, and fling it away.

So why put yourself through all of that. Be smart, and don't set yourself up for problems and a life of turmoil. Not sure how this is even an argument?

Why would you seek to build a long term relationship with anyone who in the beginning it is apparent that you both have serious incompatibilities???
 
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Well there's your problem
I think her main problem is inside her - she is putting her "love" and fears above what the Bible says.

She needs to repent, first. And then act accordingly. Without her inner change, her outer acts will not be stable and lasting.
 
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I just don't understand why so many people believe in it if it is so evil - Islam I mean.
Islam is a lie, created by satan to draw people away from the true God, the almighty God who gave His beloved son Jesus Christ, to die on the cross so that we could be reunited with our heavenly father. My sister, I to am facing battles in my life, but in these times we have to run to Jesus. He is our refuge and our shepherd, keep your eyes on eternity. When I see you in heaven one day let's both break bread at the Lords table. Be strong my sister, you are a precious daughter of our loving God, and it breaks His heart to see you this way.
 
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What if no man will accept me if they find out about my past and how much of a mess and sinner I am.. I don't think I deserve anything good..
Sister, I think any guy would be so fortunate to have you in their life, the fact that you feel so strongly about Jesus, and not wanting to turn away from Him tells so much about you. The fact that you are conflicted means the Holy Spirit is fighting hard to keep your soul focused on Jesus. Also concerning your past, Jesus died for you didn't he? Our Lord loves you so much, that any sin you commit he will forgive as long as your repentant, Ive sinned so much, but everytime I come back to Him he fills me with so much peace knowing my sins are forgiven. My sister, I think any man would be fortunate to have you, because love is so much more than the past. Love is gift given to us by God, look what He did for us out of Love. Don't sell yourself short my dear sister, you are a beloved daughter of the one true God, and he loves you so very much. Take strength in Him, ill be praying for you.
 
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A month or so ago I was talking about a Muslim friend that I am very in love with... we ended up becoming a couple with the intention of marrying and out love grew deeper. But the problem is our different religions... I'm a Christian and he is a Muslim. For weeks and months he tried to convert me. I've watch hundreds of videos about his faith with him and he always debated and argued and now.. I'm lost. He didn't bring me closer to Islam.. and only brought be farther away from Christianity and now I'm lost.. I'm scared that I will go to hell and.. we have broken up and tried to leave the toxic relationship but we always come back because we love eachother so much... I can't let go and I don't know what to do.. I'm scared and lost and I don't believe in anything anymore. I haven't prayed and weeks and I'm scared...
You are unequally yoked with one who is not of your faith in Christ. Not only is he not one of your faith, he denies it outright, proclaiming that Christ was a mere prophet; he denies Christ's divinity.
 
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A month or so ago I was talking about a Muslim friend that I am very in love with... we ended up becoming a couple with the intention of marrying and out love grew deeper. But the problem is our different religions... I'm a Christian and he is a Muslim. For weeks and months he tried to convert me. I've watch hundreds of videos about his faith with him and he always debated and argued and now.. I'm lost. He didn't bring me closer to Islam.. and only brought be farther away from Christianity and now I'm lost.. I'm scared that I will go to hell and.. we have broken up and tried to leave the toxic relationship but we always come back because we love eachother so much... I can't let go and I don't know what to do.. I'm scared and lost and I don't believe in anything anymore. I haven't prayed and weeks and I'm scared...

He is not "making" you do anything. He's not "making" you doubt your faith. That's all you, my dear. Grab the bull by the horns and take responsibility for your life and your value system. You tell him Enough is enough, either he accepts you or not but you are done with his conversion attempt story lines and that convo is OVER permanently.. and MEAN it, Nika. You turn this around. You need to be praying to God to clean your path up and put God's will in you with power and strength. Take responsibility (from that guy) as this is ALL you not him. Lean on God. Get your power back (God's power) in the name of Jesus. No more excuses. Get it together, dear sister, I say this with LOVE! Ask God for correction to put God's will in you and be strong for God. You stand STRONG. NO ONE can do that for you. It's between you and God. No man matters before God matters. Not to mention he clearly isn't respecting you and you're sticking around for the brainwashing (satan is master of confusion). You have to stop. This is all on you. I pray for you, in Jesus name!
 
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I don't know about him, but you clearly are simply in love with the idea of being in love with him.


First of all I'm so sorry you are stuck in this position and that so many of the responses here seem to lack compassion and empathy.

You've answered your own question. If it's this bad now, imagine being married with children. Lord have mercy!

At this stage I think your utmost priority is to get out, run quickly, as far as possible from the situation.

What advice were you given a month ago? Did you follow it? Doesn't sound like it. You need to follow people's advice.

Break off all communication immediately.

"Jesus loves me, this I know!"

.The choice is the same one Adam and Eve had---who do you believe, God or this beautiful, talking snake.

I can not urge you strongly enough to walk away ---no, run away---and don't look back!

leave the guy

That is what they want you to think--it is what Satan wants you to think. DON'T YOU BELIEVE IT!!

Your soul is the most valuable and precious thing you will ever own!
In Him


A believer is commanded to not be unequally yoked with an unbeliever 2cor6:14-7-1

I'm not saying it to justify this conundrum but I know there is alot of people on this site who beat their chest and say that they'll stay strong in the faith, so I just wanted to show honesty and I'll be praying for you sister.

which is something he will not want to do, judging from how you have described him to us.

Sorry, I had to go to work for a little bit, but I'm back!

You already said you broke up. Which is it?

You're welcome.

Think about it -- can it be a good thing for you if it has brought you this much fear and confusion already?

Nika... YOU search on Islam.. Quran. Read in the Quran all the word for Allah.

Christians belong only with other Christians.

I haven't read the previous posts but please do not make the same mistake as I did

We're all sinners, though, so you aren't special in that area.

Run Nika run.

I think her main problem is inside her - she is putting her "love" and fears above what the Bible says.

Sister, I think any guy would be so fortunate to have you in their life







I just told him!! I'm so so scared.. he replied with "okay then" and that's it.. he's so upset right now, I'm scared and overthinking and I feel so bad but I don't want to go back and I don't know what to do ugh! I feel horrible... like a heartbreaker.. which is ironic since he lead the relationship and was the one hurting me but I know he loved me so it probably hurt him too.. he's very sensitive but also has anger issues and he over thinks and has anxiety too.. just because I'm ending things doesn't mean I don't love him or don't care about him. That's the problem - that's why its toxic because I love him so much and keep coming back expecting and hoping only to get hurt again! Why is this so hard.. I'm having the urge and instinct to stay and tell him to not leave.. but I have to let go even though I don't want to at all.. that's the hardest part.. letting go for good. My heart hurts and I'm close to crying but I've cried so many tears over him I only feel pain and it's so horrible.. I'm scared.. I love him more than he loves me and he means so much to me.. he has many flaws but I accepted him and loved him through everything. I always held patience and almost a year has passed and I rarely let anger control me. I always forgave him and gave him so much.. but he doesn't accept me for being a Christian... I feel like a project to him.. but never less I still prayed and loved him until I couldn't take it anymore.. i stopped praying.. I gave up all hope. I feel like my love was for nothing and that my feelings and efforts don't mean anything... I just lost so many people and myself.. its all my fault and I'm scared of going back into my worst depressed and suicidal phase again... this morning he was saying I love you and it was so sweet and warm and I felt so happy but I felt that feeling again.. the guilt and anxiety... do you know how hard this was for me? I'm.. I'm losing someone I love so much and it hurts so bad.. But we have to we are only hurting eachother every time we come back together.. Because loving eachother hurts, especially so much.. but no matter how much he means to me I HAVE to leave him. My feelings and his feelings don't matter here and this so painful anand I'm so scared but I have to... for us.. because this cycle won't end.. no matter how much we love eachother if he doesn't let Jesus in nothing will happen.. I'm only hurting him and myself...

But it really hurts.. I cried all night and I don't know how i will get through this. I didn't want to do it. He means so much to me and he isn't a bad person. Yes he has bad qualities but it's his heart I fell in love with and I accepted all his flaws now I feel like this is my fault... I hurt him...
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Thanks for taking the time and sharing with me.


He uses A LOT of science. It's his hobby and he loves it. He shows me all these signs. He shows videos of babies stop crying after listening to it. He shows me how the Quran has all these scientific facts and things that wouldn't be known during that era. He said that it is the word of God because Mohammed couldn't read nor write.

He was upset and asked me "Don't you see the signs? Or you think it's coincidence? How can coincidence happen this many times?"

Yes these are common claims. You must understand indoctrination can deceive many. They are given information but never in full and never allowed a critical examination of the arguments so they genuinely believe they are correct. Because he loves you he wants you to have the truth as well.

I cover some of this in my threads not so much the "proofs" of Islam from "science" but to show the scientific mistakes in the Koran and hadiths that show the man a superstitious 7th century Arabian man.

Islam - Was Muhammad a True Prophet of God?


He was no prophet. I think you need to watch these debates and read the articles and than show them to your husband. They contain those mistakes by Muhammad and in the Koran as well as show all those common proofs your husbands uses to be false. These debates Muslims will no longer engage in with Dr.Wood.



David Wood vs. Ali Ataie: "Who Was Muhammad?"
http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2008...e-who-was.html
Osama Abdallah vs. David Wood: "Was Muhammad a True Prophet?"
http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2008...-wood-was.html

Talking Ants and Shrinking Humans:An Analysis of Muhammad’s Scientific Blunders http://www.acts17.net/articles/talkingants.htm
The Toilets of Satan! Answering Muslims: The Toilets of Satan!
The Incredulous and Absurd Teachings of Muhammad Pt. 1 Muhammad's Silly and Ridiculous Teachings [Part 1]

Seymour vs. Wood:Was Muhammad a True Prophet?
http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2009...mmad-true.html
Omar Bakri & Shah Jalal Hussain vs. Sam Shamoun & David Wood: "Who Was Muhammad?"
http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2011...in-vs-sam.html
Sheikh Jalal Abualrub vs. David Wood: “Was Muhammad a Prophet”
Answering Muslims: Sheikh Jalal Abualrub vs. David Wood: "Is Muhammad a Prophet?" Who Was Muhammad? Qureshi vs. Wood
Answering Muslims: Who Was Muhammad? Qureshi vs. Wood Bassam Zawadi vs. David Wood:
“Does the Evidence Show That Islam Is True?” Answering Muslims: Bassam Zawadi vs. David Wood: "Does the Evidence Show that Islam Is True?"



And when I stayed quiet and didn't have a reply he said "Christian priests teach you to surrender like that. So that you don't see the truth. You give up debate because you're insecure about your religion and God." He always shows and asks for evidence and references from the bible to everything I say. When I told him I'm beginning to doubt my faith he said "And you should.

Questioning everything is better than following blindly. Just not in religion in everything. Just like ppl follow the crowd IRL and ruin their life, it's just like that use your brain sometimes, Allah has given you the brain to use it. Not to just follow what others tell you to do

Amen, I actually agree with him on this. I think Christians today lake the ability to defend their faith or the bible and when challenged, are unable to handle it or defend it as we are commanded in the bible to do. I would also doubt the faith that has no support for it or cant be defended, that is why I am not Muslim.


"Do not think that we say that these things are only to be received by faith, but also that they are to be asserted by reason. For indeed it is not safe to commit these things to bare faith without reason, since assuredly truth cannot be without reason. And therefore he who has received these things fortified by reason, can never lose them; whereas he who receives them without proofs, by an assent to a simple statement of them, can neither keep them safely, nor is certain if they are true; because he who easily believes, also easily yields. But he who has sought reason for those things which he has believed and received, as though bound by chains of reason itself, can never be torn away or separated from those things which he hath believed. And therefore, according as any one is more anxious in demanding a reason, by so much will he be the firmer in preserving his faith."
Clement of Alexandria



The fact that he thinks this way means he is a logical thinker that seems to be after truth. This is a great thing. Let me say from my own experience I have challenged the bible every way possible and gone through doubt and loss of faith. And as i dig deeper, it proves itself correct than I can know what is true and not care but enjoy any challenge against Gods word as he will be vindicated. Especially vs a 7th century man like Muhammad. If you would like have him ask some of his questions that you were unable to ask and i could give my response to him and see what he says.


. Islam never says follow blindly when he decided to guide ppl he sent prophets who were beautiful and shown miracles to the people. And miracles were also given according to what makes those ppl believe in right path like in time of moses magic was very popular and magicians challenged Moses to show a miracle and he showed them the miracle which looked like magic but it wasn't, it was a miracle from Allah the magicians recognized that what moses is doing is beyond the reach of magic and they accepted the true path and become his follower and worshipper of true God. In time of Jesus people were advance in medicines and curing diseases that's why Allah gave Jesus miracles which were beyond the reach of their medicines like curing blind and rising ppl from dead. Allah knew that followers of prophet Mohammed (s.a.w.) will face a time when science will dominate that's why he gave scientific miracles in Quran to call non believers to right path. He never left you alone. He showed you all the signs. Now it's up to you. If you want to decisive yourself or worship the true creator. Because there's no God except Allah and Mohammed (s.a.w.) is his messenger... It's not possible that a Muslim would give his own opinion about religion. Because if we do that we're not Muslim anymore. Whoever adds or subtracts in the Islam is doing a sin. We only speak what prophet Mohammed (s.a.w.) and Allah taught us. In Quran and hadith. I care too much about you. I don't want to see you in hell... I'm sorry. But I care. More than you could ever imagine." Then he started pointing out my weaknesses saying that I am very stubborn...

I am not sure I can agree with him on this one. First the bible never says to blindly believe. In the book of acts the Berea were loved by god because they searched the scriptures to see if what the apostles were telling them was true or not not just blindly accepting.

Test all things; hold fast what is good.
-1 Thessalonians 5:21.
The simple believes every word: but the prudent man looks well to his going. Proverbs -14.15
The first to present his case seems right,till another comes forward and questions him -Proverbs 18.17



Second it is admitted by Muslims that Muhammad did not miracles. The Koran has no miracles but has plenty of scientific mistakes [see those debates]



and as i point out on my thread

Islam - A Comparison of the Biblical God vs Allah and Theological Objections to Islam

Allah does not allow questioning him. If you are critical of Islam your fingers are chopped off than you go to hell 8.10-13. Death penalty for attacking the Koran 8.10-13 33,36. Further Allah does not want all to believe. Allah does not will all to be saved 32.12-32 the Koranic god wishes to scourge unbelievers for his sins 5.48-50. Allah could have led all mankind to him, but he leads them astray because of there bad deeds 13.31, God wishes to scourge sinners 5.49, unbelievers are allowed to live longer only so they sin more, and receive a greater punishment 3.178. Allah punishes unbelievers, so there souls shall depart in unbelief 9.55. Allah misleads whom He wills and guides whom He wills14:416:93 42.13. God leads the wrongdoers astray 14.25-30 If one believes in Allah is based on gods predetermined outcome “Allah misleads whom he wills and guides whom he wills.” 14.4 Allah mislead billions around the world. He predestined them to hell [9.51 57 21-23 2 6-7 3 73-74 5 40-41 6.107 6.149 7.178 32.13 10.99 7 29-31 81 28-29 sahih Muslim 1.1 33.6436 33.6393. .

When God resolved to create the human race...he throw one half into hell, saying “These to eternal fire, and I care not” and projected the other half into haven adding “and these to paradise, I care not”
-Kisasul-Anbiya 21 also Abu-Dawood 2203 Al-Timidhi 38 Mishkat al -Misabih 3.112-13




In fact Allah does a miracle to make Jesus appear to be crucified when he was not. Thus deceiving billions around the world and causing a false religion Christianity. Muslims believe Jesus did not die on the cross, instead it was made to “appear to them” he died, instead he went to haven 4 157-158. This also brings up the issue of Islam explanation of Christianity. The bible says many false prophets will come after Jesus that will mislead many. So we would aspect a religion like Islam. But if Islam is true than Allah created the world biggest religion Christianity, by deceiving people into thinking Jesus died on the cross.





Then he asked me "Why a child is born sinner according to you? He's so innocent and adorable.

You should say its not according to you but God. All mankind is a sinner we have a fallen nature inherited from adam and eve [who they believe in even if Adam was 90 feet tall lol]. Many beautiful woman are sinners, just because a baby looks cute does not make it any less human. Know I would say it is innocent before God in that a baby who dies goes to heaven, but that baby will grow to be a sinner like every baby before it. I have 4 kids, not once did i teach one to steal, hit, be selfish etc they did it on their own I must try and teach them not to. They were cute though.

But if he wants morality, than ask how he justifies Islams view of woman.

Islam - A Critical Look at Islam From a Christian Perspective


Or that Allah is not a God of love and does not love all. he does not just want babies not in haven he wants all kinds of people to not be in haven. He does not want people in haven except some Muslims. Neither is Allah just, he is a deceiver, he created the world evil with death suffering etc for more see here

Islam - A Comparison of the Biblical God vs Allah and Theological Objections to Islam




According to your Deuteronomy

It is not our Deuteronomy but Gods. The same bible that Muhammad had in 7th century Arabia read to him. Witch brings up an interesting point. The Bible and the Koran contradict each other on many very important issues. Yet the Koran says the bible was from God and would substantiate its claims. Allah promised Jesus his followers will have power over those that try to corrupt his words. Christians and Jews were to judge by their Torah and gospel 5:47 5 42-44 [many other verses as well ] in the 7th century. The years after Muhammad death Muslims realized the bible contradicted the Koran, but since the Koran was true in their eyes, that must of meant that the bible as been edited and corrupted.

However this even goes against what the Koran says, that the gospel [NT] the Torah [OT] cannot be corrupted by man 28 48-49 6.114-115 18.27 10.64 15.9 [ verb nazzal same term used of Torah in 5.44 and injil [gospel] 5.47 also see 2.24 4.174 compare 5.44 5.46]. Muhammad himself believed in the Torah in his time and area Abu Dawud Book 33 no 4434. Muslims are said to ask the Jews and Christians to substantiate Muhammad as a prophet as they have god given writings of “guidance and light” [divine inspiration] 5.42-48 5.65-68 10.94 5.50 5.72. Christians in v 47 are to judge by what is reveled to them in the gospel in.

The problem is that we have surviving manuscripts of entire bibles from not just Arabia, but all over. Not just the 7th century but hundreds of years earlier. showing the bible of the time of Muhammad when the Koran claims its gods word and would substantiate its message. Is the bible of today and thus the Koran contradicts itself and is false. It also brings up the question of why did god not protect his earlier scripture the Torah and gospel especially when the Koran says it did? if Christians did corrupt the bible, it is only because Allah willed it 2.253. Also why did Allah wait for the 7th century to have an accurate word of God if the bible has been corrupted?

No Historical Evidence for Islam pre 7th Century Arabia

The Koran is Gods eternal word in haven and does not change. The Koran claims that the prophets of old such as Moses, Adam, Jonah, Abraham, Jesus, John the Baptist etc all were Muslims and taught true Islam. The Koran says Jesus followers [who were Muslims] were teaching Islam 3.52-53 5.111 5.47 and those followers would be dominate until the day of resurrection [future] 3.55 61.14 and they would have victory over disbelievers.

says O you who have believed, be supporters of Allah , as when Jesus, the son of Mary, said to the disciples, "Who are my supporters for Allah ?" The disciples said, "We are supporters of Allah ." And a faction of the Children of Israel believed and a faction disbelieved. So We supported those who believed against their enemy, and they became dominant
-Qu'ran 40 70-72


Yet their is no record of them or of Islamic teachings. Where is their historical evidence for Islamic doctrine before Muhammad? Jesus says words in the Koran that are not recorded in the first 600 years of christian history by friends or enemies. Instead we see biblical and christian doctrine, manuscripts, bibles and writings throughout history up until Muhammad. The Koran says there is nothing new in Koran that was not taught to earlier generations 41.42-44 [many other passages] . Further the Koran says in many places that apostles went out into all nations of the earth, why is there no evidence for Islam in preislamic nations?
 
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idk if that's the name if the the books sorry if I say wrong. But according to it child shouldn't be punished for their parents sins and your God made the whole mankind sinner because of the fault of two. That's unfair. In our beliefs we're born pure and Muslim, but we become sinner by our deeds. And that sounds more reasonable. If you die before maturing you'll directly go to heaven it doesn't matter if you are born to Christian or Jew. That's our religion. If you die while believing you'll go to heaven. In our religion. But the more good deeds you do the higher rank you'll achieve, in paradise. But you guys are different. It's like taking a test of many students and give them grades based on our prejudice, it's not justice. No matter how hard the student studied he'll be treated same as the the one who did nothing. It's unfair to the one who worked hard."

No child is punished for the parents sin.

Fathers shall not be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their fathers; each is to die for his own sin.
Deut. 24:16

The soul who sins is the one who will die. The son will not share the guilt of the father, nor will the father share the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous man will be credited to him, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against him.
Ezekiel 18:20



The God of the Bible did not make all mankind sinners, he made them all justified. We all sin from Adam and eve down on, we are not punished for Adams sin but our own.

If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.
1 John 1.8


5 But He was wounded for our transgressions,
He was bruised for our iniquities;
The chastisement for our peace was upon Him,
And by His stripes we are healed.
6 All we like sheep have gone astray;
We have turned, every one, to his own way;
And the LORD has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.
-Isiah 53 5-6



24 and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, so that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed.
-1 peter 2. 24


The God of the bible does not want any to go to hell but for all to go to heaven unlike the god of Islam.


Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked?,' says the Lord God, 'And not rather that he should turn from his way and live? For I have no pleasure in the death of anyone,' says the Lord God. 'So turn and live! Say to them, "As I live," says the Lord God, "I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live. Turn back, turn back from your evil ways. For why will you die?
-Ez. 18.23,32; 33.11



Which is a God of Love?

Whereas Muslims the primary currency of the divine economy is sovereign power, for Christians it is sacrificial love. Islam commands bow before him, Christianity invites run into his outstretched arms.
-Mateen Elass Understanding the Koran Zondervan Grand Rapids Mich 2004


In the Koran Allah is not all loving, he loves only those who do good works. Allah is the enemy of unbelievers 2.97-100 god does not love the unbelievers 3.30-35 god does not love the evil doers 3.56-57 god bears no love for the sinful 2.275-277 god does not love wrongdoers 42.38-44 god does not love the proud 16.22-26 Allah does not love the unbelievers 30.43-46 god does not love transgressors 7.54-57 so his love is conditional based on the works of a individual.

Say [O Muhammad]: If you love Allah, then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your faults, and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. Say: Obey Allah and the Apostle; but if they turn back, then surely Allah does not love the unbelievers.
-Qur’an 3:31-32


Then turn thy face straight to the right religion before there come from Allah the day which cannot be averted; on that day they shall become separated. Whoever disbelieves, he shall be responsible for his disbelief, and whoever does good, they prepare (good) for their own souls, that He may reward those who believe and do good out of His grace; surely He does not love the unbelievers.
-Qur’an 30:43-45


3:31-32 makes Allah’s love contingent on whether a person believes in Muhammad. This is similar to 19:46, which declares: “Lo! those who believe and do good works, the Beneficent will appoint for them love.”Allah is called “the Loving,” the Qur’an only means by this that Allah will love people once they believe in him and obey his prophet. The god of Islam has no love for sinners and unbelievers.

The God of the bible loves all and loves unconditional. “But god demonstrated his love for us that while we were sinners Christ died for us” Romans 5.8. Allah said god will love you, if you love him first 3.30-35 and believers need to help god, for him to help them 47.5-11. Jesus said of those who love only those who love them “if you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that?” Matt 5.46. When being nailed to the cross after being beaten, scourged, spat at etc he prayed to god for those nailing him to the cross "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do." Luke 23.34.

A Personal god of Love?

Allah has 99 names not one is a god of love. The bible says “Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love” 1 John 4.8. No one can speak with the Islamic god in haven 78 37-38. There is no personal relationship with god in this life or afterlife. In the bible its a personal god, that came into our world and suffered for us. Allah is an impersonal god outside of his creation not really caring for his creation

Since Allah is all powerful he needs nothing outside himself and loves nothing outside himself The plurality in the Godhead is vital for understanding the biblical teaching, “God is love” "john4:8 A Unitarian God, such as Islam’s Allah, could not be a God of Love in his nature, since by definition love requires another person to be the recipient. Allah might conceivably be able to love after he created, but that would make love contingent on creation, not an intrinsic property of Allah.


Allah Does not Wish all to be Saved

Allah does not will all to be saved 32.12-32 the Koranic god wishes to scourge unbelievers for his sins 5.48-50. Allah could have led all mankind to him, but he leads them astray because of there bad deeds 13.31, God wishes to scourge sinners 5.49, unbelievers are allowed to live longer only so they sin more, and receive a greater punishment 3.178. Allah punishes unbelievers, so there souls shall depart in unbelief 9.55. Allah misleads whom He wills and guides whom He wills14:416:93 42.13. God leads the wrongdoers astray 14.25-30 If one believes in Allah is based on gods predetermined outcome “Allah misleads whom he wills and guides whom he wills.” 14.4 Allah mislead billions around the world. He predestined them to hell [9.51 57 21-23 2 6-7 3 73-74 5 40-41 6.107 6.149 7.178 32.13 10.99 7 29-31 81 28-29 sahih Muslim 1.1 33.6436 33.6393. .

When God resolved to create the human race...he throw one half into hell, saying “These to eternal fire, and I care not” and projected the other half into haven adding “and these to paradise, I care not”
-Kisasul-Anbiya 21 also Abu-Dawood 2203 Al-Timidhi 38 Mishkat al -Misabih 3.112-13


The God of the bible is very different. "The Lord is not willing that any should perish but that all should reach repentance" 2Pet. 3.9. "He desires all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth" 1Tim. 2.4.

"'Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked?,' says the Lord God, 'And not rather that he should turn from his way and live? For I have no pleasure in the death of anyone,' says the Lord God. 'So turn and live! Say to them, "As I live," says the Lord God, "I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live. Turn back, turn back from your evil ways. For why will you die?"'"
(Ez. 18.23,32; 33.11).

“He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
2 peter 3.9.


So the god of the bible allows unbelievers to live, in hopes they will come to believe in him. Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me Rev 3.20. I will never leave you nor forsake you. Hebrews 13:5.


Paradise a Gift of Grace or Earned? And the Justice of God

In Islam God revels not himself but his will for humanity. His concern is not to invite human beings into a life transforming love relationship with himself but to demand rightful obedience to his commands. Under Islam the best human beings can hope for is to be recognized and rewarded as faithful servants.”
-Mateen Elass Understanding the Koran Zondervan Grand Rapids Mich 2004


In the Koran paradise is not a gift but a reward for good works 16.31-34. Paradise is earned with labors 7.43. You go to heaven if your good deeds outweigh your bad deeds on a scale 21.47 23.99-105, otherwise you go to hell and judgment. You must do works before you can be forgiven by Allah 8.1-5 20.81-86 33.35 7.156-157. God has mercy on those who do good works first 9.70-72. This concludes there is no chance for redemption for someone who is 50 years old full of bad works even if they have a change of heart. The sin is to great there is no chance for redemption.

The bible says "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved." Romans 10.13. In the bible paradise is freely given by a gracious God [who wants all in haven unlike the Koranic God] to all who accept. "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life” John 3.16 “In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God’s grace But where sin increased, grace increased all the more” Romans 5.20.

A Just God

The god of the Koran is unjust and leaves sin unpunished. Since many crimes and sins will be committed that are never paid for or punished. Many Muslims will commit sins in their earthly life but their good deeds will outweigh their bad deeds and they will enter paradise. So their bad needs go unpunished. Making Allah unjust for allowing sins and crimes to go unpunished. In Sahih Al-Bukari 4.676 a man murdered 99 people and had no good works to speak of. Yet he was forgiven by Allah for no reason. His forgiveness was not based on gods love or an adornment for sin [such as Jesus n the cross] or gods law or mercy. Just an arbitrary forgiveness. Allah once forgave a man with great sin and no good works simply because he recited the shahada. Thus he is not a good judge or a just judge.

The biblical God is a just god and cannot allow sin to go unpunished. Yet he is also loving and forgiving. That is why he sent Jesus to take the punishment for sin we deserved. In this way God can be both all loving, and just, not allowing sin to go unpunished.


The Origin of Death and Suffering

Allah ...determined the course of all that occurs in creation from beginning to end. Everything has been ordered by God's will, and nothing can alter or withstand his determinations.”
-Mateen Elass Understanding the Koran Zondervan Grand Rapids Mich 2004


In Islam there is no original perfect creation instead Allah created a world with death, disease, suffering earthquakes and man was created imperfect and impatient. In the Koran on the original created earth animals were eaten. In fact they were created to be eaten 36.71-76 16.1-6 16.14 death is a design of creation. In the Koran god ordained death 40.67-73 god is the author of death, death was an original part of creation. No one dies unless god wills it 3.144-46. The term of every life is fixed 3.144-46 6.60-62 everyone death is predetermined by god 16.61-63 In the Koran god is the cause of all death. Allah causes man to die 45. 24-26,27 80 18-20 god ordained death to people 56. 51-62 “Allah does what he wills” has “power over all things” including death and destruction 14.27 5.17 54.49 man was created weak 4.27-28 animals were created to be eaten all animals in the sea are wholesome food 5.96 god created life and death that he might put us to the test 67 1-3 god ordained death to people 56. 51-62 god causes people to die 45. 24-26,27 80 18-20.

In the bible God originally created a perfect creation with no death, disease, or sickness. Originally man and animals were vegetarian. Death is the enemy. In the bible Death is the last enemy to be destroyed and was not part of god original “good” creation Romans 5 12-21 1 Corinthians 15 20-26 Genesis 3. The future haven is to be like the original garden of Eden original when animals did not eat each other and humans did not eat animals.

The wolf will live with the lamb,
the leopard will lie down with the goat,
the calf and the lion and the yearling together;
and a little child will lead them.
7 The cow will feed with the bear,
their young will lie down together,
and the lion will eat straw like the ox.
8 The infant will play near the cobra’s den,
the young child will put its hand into the viper’s nest.
9 They will neither harm nor destroy
on all my holy mountain,
for the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the LORD
Isiah 11 6-9


1 Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea. 2 Then I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God. 4 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”
5 Then He who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.”
-Revelations chapter 21 1-5


for a more in depth look see

Why is There Death and Suffering if God is all Loving

Hell

He created them for hell while they were yet in their fathers loins.”
-Sahih Muslim 33.6436


In the koran hell was prepared for unbelievers 3.131 132 and hell was created for man 7.179 sahih al-bukari 8.593. Hell was created for demons and man 11.118-123. People will repent in hell and not be saved 10.54-58 10.97.

In the bible Hell was prepared for the devil and his angels Matt 25.41 not for humans.


Heaven

In the Koran sin continues in heaven 47.12-16 [and sahih al bukari vol 8 book 77 number 611] no one can speak with god in haven 78 37-38. Believers will mock unbelievers in hell, as they recline apone there couches 83.35. In the bible there is no more sin Isiah 11 6-9 Isiah 65.25 Revelations chapter 21 1-5 Rev 22 3-5 Isiah 2 1-4. And the purpose of heaven is to have an eternal relationship with a loving god unmarred by sin and separation.

The Purpose of Man

In the Koran man was created to be tried with affliction 90.1-7. Man was created weak 4.27-28 Muslims were created to help Muhammad in war 9.40 . In the bible man was created for a personal relationship with God lev 26.12 1 john 4.19 gen 5.1 gen 1.27 rev 21 1-5.
 
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These aren't just lofty poetic scriptural words - it's a powerful belief and conviction from the innermost part of your being. You need to remember your armour of God, Nika. Jesus died for you and your heritage cannot be taken away. Don't float around in a cloud of confusion drinking up the brainwashing from this man who does not have the holy spirit. He doesn't understand Jesus because he doesn't have the holy spirit. It's a choice, Nika. Take responsibility for putting on your armour of God. In Jesus name.
Ephesians 6:11-18 King James Version (KJV)
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
 
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I just told him!! I'm so so scared.. he replied with "okay then" and that's it.. he's so upset right now, I'm scared and overthinking and I feel so bad but I don't want to go back and I don't know what to do ugh! I feel horrible... like a heartbreaker.. which is ironic since he lead the relationship and was the one hurting me but I know he loved me so it probably hurt him too.. he's very sensitive but also has anger issues and he over thinks and has anxiety too.. just because I'm ending things doesn't mean I don't love him or don't care about him. That's the problem - that's why its toxic because I love him so much and keep coming back expecting and hoping only to get hurt again! Why is this so hard.. I'm having the urge and instinct to stay and tell him to not leave.. but I have to let go even though I don't want to at all.. that's the hardest part.. letting go for good. My heart hurts and I'm close to crying but I've cried so many tears over him I only feel pain and it's so horrible.. I'm scared.. I love him more than he loves me and he means so much to me.. he has many flaws but I accepted him and loved him through everything. I always held patience and almost a year has passed and I rarely let anger control me. I always forgave him and gave him so much.. but he doesn't accept me for being a Christian... I feel like a project to him.. but never less I still prayed and loved him until I couldn't take it anymore.. i stopped praying.. I gave up all hope. I feel like my love was for nothing and that my feelings and efforts don't mean anything... I just lost so many people and myself.. its all my fault and I'm scared of going back into my worst depressed and suicidal phase again... this morning he was saying I love you and it was so sweet and warm and I felt so happy but I felt that feeling again.. the guilt and anxiety... do you know how hard this was for me? I'm.. I'm losing someone I love so much and it hurts so bad.. But we have to we are only hurting eachother every time we come back together.. Because loving eachother hurts, especially so much.. but no matter how much he means to me I HAVE to leave him. My feelings and his feelings don't matter here and this so painful anand I'm so scared but I have to... for us.. because this cycle won't end.. no matter how much we love eachother if he doesn't let Jesus in nothing will happen.. I'm only hurting him and myself...

But it really hurts.. I cried all night and I don't know how i will get through this. I didn't want to do it. He means so much to me and he isn't a bad person. Yes he has bad qualities but it's his heart I fell in love with and I accepted all his flaws now I feel like this is my fault... I hurt him...
I'm so sorry to see you in so much pain and it does hurt when you witness someone you care about getting hurt as well :hug:

Regrettably though it will work out better for the two of you if you both walk away. As we say in the UK, oil and water do not mix. :hug:

It's so weird reading his reactions to you and seeing some similarities to what I went through too, but at the end of all this - it is better for you not to be with him.

Please remember that it is definitely not your fault in all this...
 
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Nika, if we took the religion issue completely out of the matter, a break-up like this one still is almost always going to be wrenching, agonizing. People very often wonder if they made the right choice. That's often what happens for people who have feelings. Just like you.

So do not regret unnecessarily; the decision to stay under all the circumstances you described to us would have almost certainly have worked out badly for you, sooner or later.

(Incidentally, I have to question how committed anyone really is/was who replies to the surprise news of a break-up by commenting, 'okay then.' But thats just a personal opinion from me.)

I just told him!! I'm so so scared.. he replied with "okay then" and that's it.. he's so upset right now, I'm scared and overthinking and I feel so bad but I don't want to go back and I don't know what to do ugh! I feel horrible... like a heartbreaker.. which is ironic since he lead the relationship and was the one hurting me but I know he loved me so it probably hurt him too.. he's very sensitive but also has anger issues and he over thinks and has anxiety too.. just because I'm ending things doesn't mean I don't love him or don't care about him. That's the problem - that's why its toxic because I love him so much and keep coming back expecting and hoping only to get hurt again! Why is this so hard.. I'm having the urge and instinct to stay and tell him to not leave.. but I have to let go even though I don't want to at all.. that's the hardest part.. letting go for good.
 
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I just told him!! I'm so so scared.. he replied with "okay then" and that's it.. he's so upset right now, I'm scared and overthinking and I feel so bad but I don't want to go back and I don't know what to do ugh! I feel horrible... like a heartbreaker.. which is ironic since he lead the relationship and was the one hurting me but I know he loved me so it probably hurt him too.. he's very sensitive but also has anger issues and he over thinks and has anxiety too.. just because I'm ending things doesn't mean I don't love him or don't care about him. That's the problem - that's why its toxic because I love him so much and keep coming back expecting and hoping only to get hurt again! Why is this so hard.. I'm having the urge and instinct to stay and tell him to not leave.. but I have to let go even though I don't want to at all.. that's the hardest part.. letting go for good. My heart hurts and I'm close to crying but I've cried so many tears over him I only feel pain and it's so horrible.. I'm scared.. I love him more than he loves me and he means so much to me.. he has many flaws but I accepted him and loved him through everything. I always held patience and almost a year has passed and I rarely let anger control me. I always forgave him and gave him so much.. but he doesn't accept me for being a Christian... I feel like a project to him.. but never less I still prayed and loved him until I couldn't take it anymore.. i stopped praying.. I gave up all hope. I feel like my love was for nothing and that my feelings and efforts don't mean anything... I just lost so many people and myself.. its all my fault and I'm scared of going back into my worst depressed and suicidal phase again... this morning he was saying I love you and it was so sweet and warm and I felt so happy but I felt that feeling again.. the guilt and anxiety... do you know how hard this was for me? I'm.. I'm losing someone I love so much and it hurts so bad.. But we have to we are only hurting eachother every time we come back together.. Because loving eachother hurts, especially so much.. but no matter how much he means to me I HAVE to leave him. My feelings and his feelings don't matter here and this so painful anand I'm so scared but I have to... for us.. because this cycle won't end.. no matter how much we love eachother if he doesn't let Jesus in nothing will happen.. I'm only hurting him and myself...

But it really hurts.. I cried all night and I don't know how i will get through this. I didn't want to do it. He means so much to me and he isn't a bad person. Yes he has bad qualities but it's his heart I fell in love with and I accepted all his flaws now I feel like this is my fault... I hurt him...

Keep strong. And understand that this man is the one who stands between you and your real husband. Your Christian husband is out there waiting for you to meet him, but he can't find you while you're dating Mr. Wrong. God Bless!
 
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"Can I also be honest?" He asks. I say yes. "
If someone tells you they love you and only you and you're madly in love with them, just like your current state. And if that person leave you or you find out they lied what'd you do? What'd be your reaction?" I said heartbroke. He replies with "That's what happening to you right now. People convinced you that it's true but seeing the truth with your own eyes is hurting you now. You don't want to stay but you can't leave either. I know your situation that's why I don't want to be hard on you and I'm trying my best to be as soft as possible."

he seems genuine. I think you should be honest as well study the subject look at the resources i have given and start from there. You can always ask me any question.


Then he asked me "Is this world a test? According to you?" I said yes. "But if everyone is getting the same result then why is it a test anymore? Why did he put some ppl to test and made some ppl rich? Some black some white. Some rich some poor. Between ppl. If god loved everyone equally then why did he created black ppl? To let them suffer the racism? If he loved everyone equally he should've given them same skin, and wealth, and health. My god loves everyone, but he commanded us to do good deeds to get closer to him.

a test? I say its a fallen world. God is also not a socialist nor a social justice warrior. God does not think black is less than any other amount of pigment in the skin. Racism weather from blacks against whites [far more often but untold] or whites vs blacks is a human sin problem. God unlike our modern conformist society loves diversity, true diversity.


All men Created Equal?

In the Koran the meanest beast in gods sight are the deaf and dumb 8.21-22. People are not all equal in Allah's sight 32.16-20. Allah does not see all men as equal 9.18-20.

In the bible God shows personal favoritism to no man Galatians 2.6 there is no favoritism with god Romans 2 11. “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” Galatians 3.28 10 “Do we not all have one Father? Did not one God create us? Why do we profane the covenant of our ancestors by being unfaithful to one another? Malachi 2.10.


Here is a funny video about Muhammad [an arab who was very white compared to arabs] and had black slaves and what he said of blacks as he was racists. And he goes into some on how people just believe what they are told about Islam and dont question if its true.







He said he'll test us. In every ways possible. To see if they stick to what he said. Then he'll give us a rank in Paradise where no one will be unhappy or sad.


And who goes to haven? those who die for allah is the only guarantee. As i posted earlier allah does not want all in haven, he wills them not to be in haven. The god of the bible loves you and Muslims, black, white all so much he died for us as a free gift so we can all go to heaven.


Heaven

In the Koran sin continues in heaven 47.12-16 [and sahih al bukari vol 8 book 77 number 611] no one can speak with god in haven 78 37-38. Believers will mock unbelievers in hell, as they recline apone there couches 83.35.




There's more to it. My God is so merciful. He loves you, me, and everyone. That's why he's showing you all these signs. He loves you more than average people tbh I think. Many people don't get to see these signs and they waste their life. Maybe he wants to improve your situation because you've gone through a lot. And he don't want you to suffer more.

No, that is the God of the bible. Notice Allah loves you more, he does not love all equal, he is not all loving. Remember Muslims are allowed to lie [like Allah] for the good of Islam


Allah – The Greatest Deceiver of them All

God is deceitful 8.41-45 Allah is a schemer like man 86.17 According to the Qur'an, Allah is the "best of deceivers" 3:54; 8:30. The phrase is often translated into English as "best of planners," "best of schemers," or "best of plotters," but the root word (makr) means "deception." Hence, the following Qur'an verses should be rendered as follows:Qur'an 3:54—And they (the unbelievers) planned to deceive, and Allah planned to deceive (the unbelievers), and Allah is the best of deceivers. Qur'an 7:99—Are they then safe from Allah's deception? No one feels safe from Allah's deception except those that shall perish. Qur'an 8:30—And (remember) when the unbelievers plotted deception against you (O Muhammad), to imprison you, or kill you, or expel you. They plotted deception, but Allah also plotted deception; and Allah is the best of deceivers.
-Sam Shamoun


Muhammad was allowed to break treaty of Hudaybiya. The Koranic God seems to be ok with small sins as well, and even rewards them for not doing big sins 53. 32-40. Muhammad allowed a follower to lie in order to kill a Jewish poet Ka'b bin Al-Ashrat who was critical of Muhammad.

The Prophet said, "Who is ready to kill Ka'b bin Ashraf (i.e. a Jew)." Muhammad bin Maslama replied, "Do you like me to kill him?" The Prophet replied in the affirmative. Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say what I like." The Prophet replied, "I do (i.e. allow you)." -Volume 4, Book 52, Number 271: Narrated Jabir:


Allah Does not Wish all to be Saved

Allah does not will all to be saved 32.12-32 the Koranic god wishes to scourge unbelievers for his sins 5.48-50. Allah could have led all mankind to him, but he leads them astray because of there bad deeds 13.31, God wishes to scourge sinners 5.49, unbelievers are allowed to live longer only so they sin more, and receive a greater punishment 3.178. Allah punishes unbelievers, so there souls shall depart in unbelief 9.55. Allah misleads whom He wills and guides whom He wills14:416:93 42.13. God leads the wrongdoers astray 14.25-30 If one believes in Allah is based on gods predetermined outcome “Allah misleads whom he wills and guides whom he wills.” 14.4 Allah mislead billions around the world. He predestined them to hell [9.51 57 21-23 2 6-7 3 73-74 5 40-41 6.107 6.149 7.178 32.13 10.99 7 29-31 81 28-29 sahih Muslim 1.1 33.6436 33.6393. .

When God resolved to create the human race...he throw one half into hell, saying “These to eternal fire, and I care not” and projected the other half into haven adding “and these to paradise, I care not”
-Kisasul-Anbiya 21 also Abu-Dawood 2203 Al-Timidhi 38 Mishkat al -Misabih 3.112-13


The God of the bible is very different. "The Lord is not willing that any should perish but that all should reach repentance" 2Pet. 3.9. "He desires all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth" 1Tim. 2.4.

"'Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked?,' says the Lord God, 'And not rather that he should turn from his way and live? For I have no pleasure in the death of anyone,' says the Lord God. 'So turn and live! Say to them, "As I live," says the Lord God, "I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live. Turn back, turn back from your evil ways. For why will you die?"'"
(Ez. 18.23,32; 33.11).

“He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
2 peter 3.9.


So the god of the bible allows unbelievers to live, in hopes they will come to believe in him. Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me Rev 3.20. I will never leave you nor forsake you. Hebrews 13:5.



Which is a God of Love?

Whereas Muslims the primary currency of the divine economy is sovereign power, for Christians it is sacrificial love. Islam commands bow before him, Christianity invites run into his outstretched arms.
-Mateen Elass Understanding the Koran Zondervan Grand Rapids Mich 2004


In the Koran Allah is not all loving, he loves only those who do good works. Allah is the enemy of unbelievers 2.97-100 god does not love the unbelievers 3.30-35 god does not love the evil doers 3.56-57 god bears no love for the sinful 2.275-277 god does not love wrongdoers 42.38-44 god does not love the proud 16.22-26 Allah does not love the unbelievers 30.43-46 god does not love transgressors 7.54-57 so his love is conditional based on the works of a individual.

Say [O Muhammad]: If you love Allah, then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your faults, and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. Say: Obey Allah and the Apostle; but if they turn back, then surely Allah does not love the unbelievers.
-Qur’an 3:31-32


Then turn thy face straight to the right religion before there come from Allah the day which cannot be averted; on that day they shall become separated. Whoever disbelieves, he shall be responsible for his disbelief, and whoever does good, they prepare (good) for their own souls, that He may reward those who believe and do good out of His grace; surely He does not love the unbelievers.
-Qur’an 30:43-45


3:31-32 makes Allah’s love contingent on whether a person believes in Muhammad. This is similar to 19:46, which declares: “Lo! those who believe and do good works, the Beneficent will appoint for them love.”Allah is called “the Loving,” the Qur’an only means by this that Allah will love people once they believe in him and obey his prophet. The god of Islam has no love for sinners and unbelievers.

The God of the bible loves all and loves unconditional. “But god demonstrated his love for us that while we were sinners Christ died for us” Romans 5.8. Allah said god will love you, if you love him first 3.30-35 and believers need to help god, for him to help them 47.5-11. Jesus said of those who love only those who love them “if you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that?” Matt 5.46. When being nailed to the cross after being beaten, scourged, spat at etc he prayed to god for those nailing him to the cross "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do." Luke 23.34.
 
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Well.. he is very very controlling and he mad me feel pressured a lot times.. it's toxic because I cry everyday and i don't know why it's so hard to let go.. i know i have to and i told him that but it's very hard..
Dump him.

I really want to to be honest but I'm scared of hurting him.
He doesn't care that he's hurting you. Kick him out of your life forever.

What if no man will accept me if they find out about my past and how much of a mess and sinner I am.. I don't think I deserve anything good..
There are Christian men out there who will, no matter what you have done. There are worse women than you who find Christ and find love with such men.

I just don't understand why so many people believe in it if it is so evil - Islam I mean.
Much of it is due to coercive pressure, either from the government or from within their families or communities. Muslims have historically had large families, so many children are raised as Muslim and either don't see other religions as potentially true due to that bias, or if they begin to come around to another faith, there is the very real fear of being disowned or worse.
 
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Just remember that every prophet taught only one thing. That was There's only one God and only pray to him. Anything else is human construct."

This is not biblical or historical, this started with Muhammad. See my threads.




He says "Read your own book with open mind you'll see what Jesus truly meant. Read different version of same verse. You'll know why he came. I know he came to save you and he is saviour. But not a son of God. Because god is independent. He don't need a family that's just for us humans.

The definition if God is independent, all knowing, all seeing and creator of everything. Not "father of everything". Creator not father. It's a very simple concept if you think about it with a free mind. So easy to understand and think. I want the best for you. And remember This life is nothing but a delusion."

I agree read your own book, read the bible, that is the best refutation of Islam outside reading the Koran. You will indeed see what Jesus meant for you, its not Islam. He is not son of God? why because Muhammad said so? The bible and early Christians clearly taught him the son of God. Muhammad was mistaken of course on this. Further he has a false idea of the trinity

James White vs. Jalal Abualrub: "Does the New Testament Teach that Jesus Is God?"
Answering Muslims: James White vs. Jalal Abualrub: "Does the New Testament Teach that Jesus Is God?"
Is Jesus a Prophet or is He also God? Sam Shamoun vs. Anjem Choudary
Answering Muslims: Is Jesus a Prophet or is He also God? Sam Shamoun vs. Anjem Choudary
James White vs. Shadid Lewis: "Is Jesus God Almighty Most High?"
Answering Muslims: James White vs. Shadid Lewis: "Is Jesus God Almighty Most High?"
James White and Farhan Qureshi, "Did Jesus Claim to be God"



How can a impersonal god such as the god of the Koran create personal beings? If Allah is impersonal and does not reveal himself, than how do we know that Allah reveled to Muhammad? Allah is the greatest of deceivers, how than can we be assured he was not deceiving Muhammad? Allah is all knowing yet in 18.22 he is unsure how many people are saved. Allah tells us not to sin, but created us imperfect. the god of the bible is not our father in a sense of sexual nature, but a loving father.




He loves showing me videos so he said, "I'll show you one video. That'll prove you that we Muslims are not racist about anything. Prophet Mohammed (s.a.w.) said you're each others brothers and you should treat each other with good manners. He also said the best of the man is the one who is best in his character... You deserve this (me teaching you). Allah commanded us to save everyone. I'm not doing something special. I'm just following his command. It's my duty :)"

That sounds biblical not Islamic. As i showed Muslims can lie for Islam and Islam does not teach any of that.

Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."
John 8.32



When I told him I was sick he said this. "Prayer is effective than medicines. When we fall sick we don't usually go to doctor. Islam told us how to cure illnesses. We just follow those. Like honey is most helpful. And if things gets worse. You can drink Water of Zamzam. That's our holy water. I'll pray for you."

That was all today. But usually it's more intense.. and he could talk and debate her hours.. he was more gentle this time.


sounds like my kind of guy. Wish I could talk with him.
 
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'I just told him!! I'm so so scared.. he replied with "okay then" and that's it.. he's so upset right now, I'm scared and overthinking'

Guess that ends this thread for those more interested in bashing a religion than showing empathy this woman.
 
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Thanks for taking the time and sharing with me.

Thank you so much... I loved all of this. I wish you could talk to him too but he doesn't want me to talk about our relationship to anyone.. unless you don't mention it that would be okay.. or anything that I said about him because he would be very upset.
 
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Well.. he is very very controlling and he mad me feel pressured a lot times.. it's toxic because I cry everyday and i don't know why it's so hard to let go.. i know i have to and i told him that but it's very hard..

He's been taught, probably implicitly through observing family, that's how you "handle" women, but it's wrong and you shouldn't have to put up with it.

Sounds to me like you gave him a chance but now it's time to not look back.
 
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Yes i would not mention the relationship at all. That to me is just the side effect of the real issue, his acceptance of Islam. If he were convinced of the bible and christian, the side issues would disappear imo.
 
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