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Do you know how much of her earnings they give to the poor? I don't, but it seems to be substantial. In the bible God has blessed people with great wealth and scripture calls it a blessing. Does Joyce hammer her viewers and listeners to give to her so that she can prosper? Does she take all of the offerings and gifts for herself or does the ministry have outreaches to the poor? Is her primary source of income from gifts to her ministry or the fruit of her own labors in book sales? Should we use own jealousy as a measuring stick for the validity of someone's ministry?

In these things, I think Joyce Meyer holds up better compared to scripture than we here on this forum.
There is a difference between personal wealth and money belonging to the ministry. I have nothing more to say about it.
 
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I like her delivery. Listening to her teach is like having a conversation with an everyday friend. She's the woman I wish lived next door. Her teaching is simple and profound. All I know is it ministers and inspires me.
 
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You can hear her being cutoff midsentence.
honestly im not a meyer fan .
she shares some good basic bible principles but so does many a preacher
I'm trying find the article about 7 pastors of LARGE american congregations of DIFFERING denomination who in private interview with the investigator all admitted they were Atheists .
upon asking them why did they remain as pastors they all said .. they have no other vocation they were trained for -its their trade they trained for .
so we see that preaching and saying all the right things is no measure of the true state of a ministry .
man-looks at the outer appearance but GOD looks at the heart . -so i will leave the heart gazing unto him.
cessationist preachers are actually unbelievers also . but many people share all over the net some of their wonderful sermons. but they are not operating in the holy Spirit while denying the holy spirit -thats impossible .
any way the point is -we must work out our OWN salvation with fear and trembling -
fear and trembling because if one truly believes the outcome of getting this wrong -one trembles .

and i wont ever support running after this and that famous teacher just because i like the sound of them .
 
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honestly im not a meyer fan .
she shares some good basic bible principles but so does many a preacher
I'm trying find the article about 7 pastors of LARGE american congregations of DIFFERING denomination who in private interview with the investigator all admitted they were Atheists .
upon asking them why did they remain as pastors they all said .. they have no other vocation they were trained for -its their trade they trained for .
so we see that preaching and saying all the right things is no measure of the true state of a ministry .
man-looks at the outer appearance but GOD looks at the heart . -so i will leave the heart gazing unto him.
cessationist preachers are actually unbelievers also . but many people share all over the net some of their wonderful sermons. but they are not operating in the holy Spirit while denying the holy spirit -thats impossible .
any way the point is -we must work out our OWN salvation with fear and trembling -
fear and trembling because if one truly believes the outcome of getting this wrong -one trembles .

and i wont ever support running after this and that famous teacher just because i like the sound of them .

Did you just judge Joyce Meyer based on seven other preachers who turned out to be atheist and cessationists?

Why would they even come up in a discussion of Joyce Meyer?

Wouldn't a genuine discussion of Joyce Meyer not be confined to what Joyce Meyer has said and done?

Would we want to be a defendant in a courtroom where the prosecutor's evidence was crimes other people had committed? Would that seem like a right judgment?
 
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I am not the judge of any ones heart.
There are so many good preachers, with spots on television that bless us with a message.
Then there are religous investment brokers, who promise anything if we give a seed.
It sickens me.
It brings to mind Simon who wanted to buy the Holy Spirit at Samaria.
Their deeds turn people away from the truth.
You can give a offering as a seed to plant a ministry , God will Bless you according to your heart in the matter.
How will God Bless us ?
Any way He wants to.
 
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today, every preacher and teacher of the Word who comes along produces a contingent of people who get on the internet and denounce them. so their criticism doesn't mean much. all teachers are mere humans.

Joyce Meyers' ministry has helped my family a great deal and we are grateful to God for it.
 
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I like her delivery. Listening to her teach is like having a conversation with an everyday friend. She's the woman I wish lived next door. Her teaching is simple and profound. All I know is it ministers and inspires me.

Me too. :)
 
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When I look at a book I read the reviews before I buy. If the negative reviews are Micky mouse complaints I know there is nothing wrong with the teaching. because that is all they could come up with. I don't see any real problem with the complaints listed. For instance: Jesus was the first born again man. In Romans 8 Jesus was the first born among many brethren. romans 8:29 I need to re look into her stuff. She must be good. What is the beef?
 
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Did you just judge Joyce Meyer based on seven other preachers who turned out to be atheist and cessationists?

Why would they even come up in a discussion of Joyce Meyer?

Wouldn't a genuine discussion of Joyce Meyer not be confined to what Joyce Meyer has said and done?

Would we want to be a defendant in a courtroom where the prosecutor's evidence was crimes other people had committed? Would at seem like a right judgment?
Do you know what atheist means?
 
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I guess I don't. Google is down today.

Maybe you should explain it to me, and the connection of atheism with Joyce Meyer.
I asked you a straight question, nothing to do with the connection of Joyce Meyer. , Elohim will provide google to you at some point if he wishes.
 
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I asked you a straight question, nothing to do with the connection of Joyce Meyer. , Elohim will provide google to you at some point if he wishes.

No, you didn't really ask me a straight question.

I didn't just fall off a turnip truck. You asked a rhetorical question as an opening move to make a point that you're keeping hidden until what you think is the best moment in the game to pull it out.

I'm not playing your game.

You may as well make your point now.
 
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No, y

I didn't just fall off a turnip truck. You asked a rhetorical question as an opening move to make a point that you're keeping hidden until what you think is the best moment in the game to pull it out.

I'm not playing your game.

You may as well make your point now.
Do you know what Atheist means was a straight question,

it seems that it's you playing games, and your sarcasm shows a lot.
 
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There's more. I would encourage you to listen to this critique of Meyers. She's clearly teaching false doctrines and by the authority of her claim that "God told her so".


Most of her stuff may be doctrinally accurate, but then there's that excrement that's been mixed in. A bad tree will not bear good fruit. My advice would be to avoid this woman.
 
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