In Daniel the AC overthrows 3 kings/horns. In Revelation this does not happen. Why?

ewq1938 said:

This assumes that the 4th beast In Daniel 7 is the same beast of Rev 13:1 and are the last beast of this age before the Rev 19 war of Armageddon. I know some claim the beasts are two different beasts existing at two different times.

Dan 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.
Dan_7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

Dan_7:20 And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.

Dan 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

Yet when we look at Revelation we do not find any of the kings/horns being "plucked up":

Rev 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

All ten horns remain as kings with kingdoms the entire "hour" of the GT. The only time any of them fall or are subdued is when the entire beast with all ten horns and 7 heads is defeated by Christ at Armageddon.

In addition:

Rev 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the harlot, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

Again, all ten kings remain fully intact and even all together attack Babylon which happens at the end or just after the end of the great tribulation. Again this shows none of the ten horns/kings are subdued as we find in Daniel.

Also, all ten kings eventually get angry at Babylon and attack her further showing all ten are intact and not "plucked up" etc. by the antichrist.

Daniel: antichrist and 10 kings turns into antichrist and 7 kings
Rev: antichrist and ten kings the entire time of the great tribulation.

Anyone want to explain this?

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The verses in Revelation 17 about the ten kings giving their kingdom over to the beast is during the second half of the 7 years.

Differently Daniel 7 is when the person first comes to power.

Daniel 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

In Daniel 7 the ten kings that arise out of the fourth kingdom is when the little horn person first comes to power. Since he rises (to power) after the ten kings, it would appear that the ten kings appoint him - likely.

Anyway, the situation in Revelation is after the person becomes the beast, not when he first comes to power as the little horn.

ewq1938 said:

This assumes that the 4th beast In Daniel 7 is the same beast of Rev 13:1 and are the last beast of this age before the Rev 19 war of Armageddon. I know some claim the beasts are two different beasts existing at two different times.

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Yeah, but the real question is do you understand who the beast really is as God defines them in His Word? Many people believe the beast is simply "a man" which is inaccurate.

All ten horns remain as kings with kingdoms the entire "hour" of the GT. The only time any of them fall or are subdued is when the entire beast with all ten horns and 7 heads is defeated by Christ at Armageddon.

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The problem is that many of their interpretations for the horns are wrong. They believe the horn is a man. SO they assume that the little horn must be a human antichrist soon to rise. This is not how God defines the horn in Scripture. I will show you some example:

Horns do not mean God Himself as you can see horns used to represent the power of Satan, as for example the Beast with 10 horns, etc. Look at Psalms 8:21; 2nd Samuel 22:3 in saying "horn of my salvation," it is the same as saying the Power of salvation because in the Bible the horn is usually the symbol of power. You can see that the power of the Bull is its horns, and that is what men are most afraid of concerning these type animals, and even today in many areas the horns of animals are viewed as powerful and even magical. God used horns symbolically this way, which is why there were horns on the Altar. The altar is for the administration of the sacrifice, which represented Christ. In understanding this we can readily see why God says "Horn of my Salvation" and why there are horns on the Altar. It's because all throughout the Bible we see it illustrates they are a "figure" or symbol of the power or strength of whatever is in view. Here are some examples:

Psalms 89:17

• "For thou art the glory of their strength: and in thy favour our horn shall be exalted."

People don't literally have a horn to be lifted up strengthening them of course, but the horn is used here to convey the sense of believers being exalted in the glory of "His" strength. We are lifted up in His strength (Psalms 46:1; 81:1) rather than our own. e.g.:

Lamentations 2:3

• "He hath cut off in his fierce anger all the horn of Israel: he hath drawn back his right hand from before the enemy, and he burned against Jacob like a flaming fire, which devoureth round about."

Here God uses the symbol in saying he would cut off the horn of Israel, meaning He would break off their "Power" so that they will be defeated. Again, the horn there is used as a symbol of their power being broken

Deuteronomy 33:17

• "His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth: and they are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh."

Here again, the horn is used to symbolize the power and strength of the Bullock that enables him to overcome or push against the people.

Lamentations 2:17

• "The LORD hath done that which he had devised; he hath fulfilled his word that he had commanded in the days of old: he hath thrown down, and hath not pitied: and he hath caused thine enemy to rejoice over thee, he hath set up the horn of thine adversaries."

In this passage God uses the horn to signify that he has taken away their strength or power of Israel as judgment, and has exalted the horn (Power) of their adversaries to overcome them. In other words, while (verse 3) cutting off the horn of Israel means they no longer had Power to stand against their enemies, here in this passage, setting up the horn of their adversaries (verse 17) means that the enemies now had the Power to conquer Israel. Clearly the horns there signify Power or strength. We see that when a horn is broken or cut off, it is a signification that one's power has been broken or cut off. Whether used in conjunction with a crown, where it's man's ability to rule (as a king), or for something to be unable to stand or to have strength before his enemy, that cutting off of a horn signified the cutting off of power. Again:

Daniel 8:7

• "And I saw him come close unto the ram, and he was moved with choler against him, and smote the ram, and brake his two horns: and there was no Power in the ram to stand before him, but he cast him down to the ground, and stamped upon him: and there was none that could deliver the ram out of his hand."

Again, clearly and unambiguously God uses the horn to symbolize the power of the Ram. When the two horns were broken, that left him with no more power to stand before the he-goat. This is what those broken "horns" symbolized, broken power. And the same goes for the power of evil when it was broken.

Daniel 8:8

• "Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven."

The great horn allowed the wicked he goat to push with power so that the Ram could not stand before him. i.e., it 'symbolized' his great power. But now we see that likewise, when this He goat's horn was broken, it also symbolizes his power being broken or taken away wherein other forces rose up.

We see the same scenario in Revelation chapter 17 where there is this Beast who had ten horns. Here the number ten signifies fullness, and the horns signify power. So this imagery is to illustrate the fullness of time these kings rule with "power" along with the Beast.

Revelation 17:12

• "And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive Power as kingsone hour with the beast."

The horns once again signifying the power that they received to rule with the beast for this short period. Another passage where this illustration of horns signifying power can be seen in 1st Kings.

1st Kings 22:11

• "And Zedekiah the son of Chenaanah made him horns of iron: and he said, Thus saith the LORD, With these shalt thou push the Syrians, until thou have consumed them."

Here God uses the imagery of horns of iron to illustrate the great power of them by which these men could push the Syrians and defeat them. The God authored and recurring theme of horns is that they symbolize the power of whatever is in view. Likewise, the lamb of Revelation chapter five verse six has seven horns to illustrate its power. The number seven illustrates the completeness or totality of whatever is in view, and thus this represents the complete power of Christ as He is the Lamb of God that was slain. As the sacrifice lamb (as in the 4 horns of the Altar), He was the appointed sacrifice who had complete or total power. Christ illustrated This complete power Himself.

Matthew 28:18

• "And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth."

1st Peter 3:22

• "Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him."

So the Lamb with 7 horns signifies Jesus Christ as He was sacrificed on the altar of God, with the complete power of God for the atonement. This was the mirror witness of God in speaking of the power of the sacrifice in the imagery of the 4 horns of the altar.

Leviticus 4:7

• "And the priest shall put some of the blood upon the horns of the altar of sweet incense before the LORD, which is in the tabernacle of the congregation; and shall pour all the blood of the bullock at the bottom of the altar of the burnt offering, which is at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation."

Or when it is used in breaking the power of idolatry in breaking off the horns of the altar.

Amos 3:14

• "That in the day that I shall visit the transgressions of Israel upon him I will also visit the altars of Bethel: and the horns of the altar shall be cut off, and fall to the ground."

By this God is illustrating that he is taking away its power or strength.

Therefore the "horn" signifies power. And the "little horn" represents the power that the beast will have for a short season. That is all.

Hope that helps a little!

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Douggg said:

Anyway, the situation in Revelation is after the person becomes the beast, not when he first comes to power as the little horn.

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So the little horn, in your erroneous interpretation, is a man "BECOMES" the beast? That is not supported by Scripture but rather speculation to fit your antichrist doctrine.

TribulationSigns said:

So the little horn, in your erroneous interpretation, is a man "BECOMES" the beast? That is not supported by Scripture but rather speculation to fit your doctrine.

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"becomes" because the person is not the beast yet.

Daniel 7:17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth

Douggg said:

"becomes" because the person is not the beast yet.

Daniel 7:17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth

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No Scripture support where the beast was once a single human nor the beast will be one man. Rather the beast is a body of unregenerate people (the ones coming with a spirit of antichrist) wage spiritual war against God's people - the body of Christ.

TribulationSigns said:

No Scripture support where the beast was once a single human nor the beast will be one man. Rather the beast is a body of unregenerate people (the ones coming with a spirit of antichrist) wage spiritual war against God's people - the body of Christ.

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It says king. The four beasts represent four kings.

Daniel 7:17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth

Douggg said:

It says king. The four beasts represent four kings.

Daniel 7:17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth

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Kingdoms . Not four human kings. And do you even know what the number four signifies in Scripture?

TribulationSigns said:

Kingdoms . Not four human kings. And do you even know what the number four signifies in Scripture?

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It says four kings.

Daniel 7:17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth

Douggg said:

It says four kings.

Daniel 7:17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth

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You don't get it.

Again, the 10 horns are symbolic and thus illustrating certain characteristics or aspects. They are not actual horns, nor actual literal kings, they merely represent something. Namely, the horns represent the power and the symbol of a king represents their rule. This particular image and likeness of a beast are symbolic of the wicked ruling power at the time when the spirit of Satan is loosed. Again, it's 10 horns and 10 kings to symbolize power and rule. It doesn't mean the horns signify they are human kings, or the kings symbolize they are horns. Symbols point to something else. The Heads/Horns/Mountains/Kings imagery symbolizes the power to rule this wicked kingdom. vis-a-vis, kings symbolize rule. The horns aren't actual kings. You seem to be looking at it as if the horns are actual kings, when the horns signify the power and the kings signify rule. As in Daniel it gives the image of four great beasts and says they are four kings. It didn't mean the kings were actual beasts, only that beasts symbolized some aspect of their rule.

In scripture, kings are the power. For example, they have ruled as Potentate (potent/powerful rulers). Horns signify power. These kings could just as easily be signified by crowns, which wouldn't then mean the kings "are" crowns, but that they have reign or rule. I think you are missing the import of the signs or tokens here. God saying the 10 horns are 10 kings is simply clarifying the power that these rulers have been given. It is "power" to "rule" along with the "Beast." And the power to rule or reign has to be worked out through men. This ruling power isn't something floating in the air, its from the spirit beast. That's why the power (horns) are kings, or more succinctly and Biblically put, "the beast receives power to rule or reign" through these kings of the earth. The 10 give their kingdom to this beast, and these do battle with the saints in spiritual warfare.. Remember: Horns=Power=Kings=Rule. Selah.

Ephesians 6:12

• "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

What you fail to understand is that our battle is spiritual in the church where Satan comes as a messenger of light, and his ministers as ministers of righteousness. The false prophets and christs are the kings of the earth come with power as the rulers of the darkness of this world, yet being perceived by many deceived as children of light. But of course, you are looking for some political figure to fit your doctrine.

And no, God doesn't consider horns kings, God symbolizes the character kings by the imagery of horns to illustrate their power. Just as he symbolizes them by mountains or to symbolize Kingdom, or by crowns to signify their reign, etc., depending on what God wants to highlight. Horns signify their Power. Or in other words, the power of the beast at this time is revealed through these kings. Kings who have received no power to rule as yet (When John wrote Revelation), but receive power as kings/rulers only at this future time when they are allowed of God to give their kingdom (Church) to the beast.

Revelation 17:17

• "For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled."

What word? The prophecy of the destruction of the great harlot which is the fall of the unfaithful New Testament congregation of God, the corproate church where many professed Christians are being deceived by those who are coming after the power and lying signs and wonders. These are traitors to the cause of Christ who has forsaken Him and turned to the spirit of the beast. God has allowed this, in order to judge the church committing spiritual fornication. Thus this image of the 10 horns on the beast denotes the power of the Kings to rule only for the fullness of this short time. Remember the number 10 and its multiples (100, 1000, 10,000) signifies fullness. Horns represent the power of whatever is in view. Not that it is whatever is in view, but that it represents its power. For example:

Daniel 8:7

• "And I saw him come close unto the ram, and he was moved with choler against him, and smote the ram, and brake his two horns: and there was no power in the ram to stand before him, but he cast him down to the ground, and stamped upon him: and there was none that could deliver the ram out of his hand."

In this cryptic imagery, the horns represented the "power" of those who rule with the Ram, not that there is an actual ram with horns like you thought. God is painting a spiritual picture of "rule being broken." For example, the power of the Ram and those that it represented was taken away. Likewise in Revelation, the horn only signified the "power" of the kings to rule. There is no dichotomy between horns signifying power and horn or power being kings? Kings by definition have power unless that power is broken. Therefore God is not talking about your human kings!

TribulationSigns said:

Again, the 10 horns are symbolic and thus illustrating certain characteristics or aspects. They are not actual horns, nor actual literal kings, they merely represent something. Namely, the horns represent the power and the symbol of a king represents their rule. This particular image and likeness of a beast are symbolic of the wicked ruling power at the time when the spirit of Satan is loosed. Again, it's 10 horns and 10 kings to symbolize power and rule. It doesn't mean the horns signify they are human kings, or the kings symbolize they are horns. Symbols point to something else. The Heads/Horns/Mountains/Kings imagery symbolizes the power to rule this wicked kingdom. vis-a-vis, kings symbolize rule. The horns aren't actual kings. You seem to be looking at it as if the horns are actual kings, when the horns signify the power and the kings signify rule. As in Daniel it gives the image of four great beasts and says they are four kings. It didn't mean the kings were actual beasts, only that beasts symbolized some aspect of their rule.

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You have gone off on some tangent. I am saying what the the text indicates that the four beasts are four kings. One of them is the little horn person.

The ten horns represent ten kings who are ten kings. Ten men. You can go off on a tangent and claim they represent the ten sefirot of the kabbalah tree of life if you want. But it doesn't make it true or relevant. Yeah, in similarity they get into all that representation stuff, like you do.

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btw, why do you write "Selah" ? It doesn't mean anything to anyone. It is not in anyone's common vocabulary. And other posters here don't use it. The meaning is not known. It's like writing "meow". It is thought to have some relevancy in liturgy or musical direction. For what ever you think it means in normal everyday language - I would suggest that you use those words instead.

Douggg said:

The verses in Revelation 17 abou the ten kings giving their kingdom over to the beast is during the second half of the 7 years.

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Your whole theology is based on the last week of the 70 week prophecy, if you are wrong which I believe you are, your belief collapses.

There is no gap in the seventy week prophecy. The last week is about the baptism, ministry of Christ, his death and the word going to the gentiles at the stoning of Stephen in 34 ad
NOT A FUTURE ANTI-CHRIST

Matthew 21:42-44 King James Version (KJV)
42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

Original Happy Camper said:

whole theology is based on the last week of the 70 week prophecy, if you are wrong which I believe you are, your belief collapses.

There is no gap in the seventy week prophecy. The last week is about the baptism, ministry of Christ, his death and the word going to the gentiles at the stoning of Stephen in 34 ad
NOT A FUTURE ANTI-CHRIST

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Well, there is one passage in the bible that keeps me from being wrong, and instead 100% infallibly correct regarding there being a 7 years left in the 70th week prophecy.

It is in Ezekiel 39:21-29. Jesus Himself is speaking in the text of that passage, having returned to earth, and having just executed judgment on the armies that have gathered to make war on him, in Ezekiel 39:17-20, corresponding to Revelation 19:17-18.

In Ezekiel 39:21-29, Jesus recounts why the house of Israel went into dispersion among the nations.
But after having borne their shame, they are restored by believing that He is the Lord their God.

It is in the middle of the 7 years - which follow Gog/Magog that the Jews come to belief in Jesus, and receive the gospel. The 7 months and the 7 years in Ezekiel 39 following Gog/Magog when the 70th week takes place, proven so by Jesus Himself speaking in the text of Ezekiel 39:21-29. Zero chance of error.

Douggg said:

Well, there is one passage in the bible that keeps me from being wrong, and instead 100% infallibly correct regarding there being a 7 years left in the 70th week prophecy.

It is in Ezekiel 39:21-29. Jesus Himself is speaking in the text of that passage, having returned to earth, and having just executed judgment on the armies that have gathered to make war on him, in Ezekiel 39:17-20, corresponding to Revelation 19:17-18.

In Ezekiel 39:21-29, Jesus recounts why the house of Israel went into dispersion among the nations.
But after having borne their shame, they are restored by believing that He is the Lord their God.

It is in the middle of the 7 years - which follow Gog/Magog that the Jews come to belief in Jesus, and receive the gospel. The 7 months and the 7 years in Ezekiel 39 following Gog/Magog when the 70th week takes place, proven so by Jesus Himself speaking in the text of Ezekiel 39:21-29. Zero chance of error.

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I do not want to derail this tread so I will not respond to you as it would not accomplish anything.

Original Happy Camper said:

I do not want to derail this tread so I will not respond to you as it would not accomplish anything.

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I started this thread where you can tell me why I am wrong...

Walk through if I have it wrong, Ezekiel 38-39

ewq1938 said:

This assumes that the 4th beast In Daniel 7 is the same beast of Rev 13:1 and are the last beast of this age before the Rev 19 war of Armageddon. I know some claim the beasts are two different beasts existing at two different times.

Dan 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.
Dan_7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

Dan_7:20 And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.

Dan 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

Yet when we look at Revelation we do not find any of the kings/horns being "plucked up":

Rev 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

All ten horns remain as kings with kingdoms the entire "hour" of the GT. The only time any of them fall or are subdued is when the entire beast with all ten horns and 7 heads is defeated by Christ at Armageddon.

In addition:

Rev 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the harlot, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

Again, all ten kings remain fully intact and even all together attack Babylon which happens at the end or just after the end of the great tribulation. Again this shows none of the ten horns/kings are subdued as we find in Daniel.

Also, all ten kings eventually get angry at Babylon and attack her further showing all ten are intact and not "plucked up" etc. by the antichrist.

Daniel: antichrist and 10 kings turns into antichrist and 7 kings
Rev: antichrist and ten kings the entire time of the great tribulation.

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Just a theory, but it seems reasonable to me:

The '3 horns that are uprooted' correspond to the 3 woes in Revelation. At the start of the Day of the Lord (1st through 4th Trumpets are judgments upon that 1st horn; the 5th Trumpet also starts at the Day of the Lord as the locusts are the people of the man of sin who take over the city & sanctuary.)

Then the 6th Trumpet, 2nd woe is the 2nd horn (seems to be the USA). Then the 3rd woe at the 7th Trumpet would be the 3rd horn plucked up to start the beast from the sea & earth kingdoms.

ewq1938 said:

We can be assured that the three horns which are kings in Daniel are not at all related to the last 3 trumpet woes. Horns and woes are completely different things plus the Rev 13:1 beast has all ten of it's horns the entire time the beast exists. So the issue remains that Daniel speaks of three plucked up but Rev does not.

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The three plucked up takes place before the 7 years begin. They are replaced, and there will be ten when the 7 years begin. And the same ten when the person becomes the beast in the middle of the 7 years.

Revelation 6-19 is about the 7 years. So the three plucked up (and replaced) takes place before the 7 years begin.

ewq1938 said:

This assumes that the 4th beast In Daniel 7 is the same beast of Rev 13:1 and are the last beast of this age before the Rev 19 war of Armageddon. I know some claim the beasts are two different beasts existing at two different times.

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The Little Horn comes 2000 years after the Fourth Beast showed up and then fell. The Little Horn "comes out of his head" only means he is going to be a Beast that looks just like the Fourth Beast on a map. We have the Old Roman Empire that was the only Beast that ruled every inch of the Mediterranean Sea Coast. The Little Horn Beast will also likewise cover every inch of the Coastline of the Mediterranean Sea. All of North Africa, Israel, Lebanon, and all of the European portion.

They are of course 2 different Beasts, one is called the Little Horn the other is called the Fourth Beast and in Revelation we see that he himself is uniquely called a BEAST HIMSELF, because the last Beast is not like the other Beasts, he ARISES and FALLS as the ONLY King of the Beast system. That is why the MAN {666} is called a BEAST.

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Dan 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.
Dan_7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

Dan_7:20 And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.

Dan 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

Yet when we look at Revelation we do not find any of the kings/horns being "plucked up":

Rev 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

All ten horns remain as kings with kingdoms the entire "hour" of the GT. The only time any of them fall or are subdued is when the entire beast with all ten horns and 7 heads is defeated by Christ at Armageddon.

In addition:

Rev 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the harlot, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

Again, all ten kings remain fully intact and even all together attack Babylon which happens at the end or just after the end of the great tribulation. Again this shows none of the ten horns/kings are subdued as we find in Daniel.

Also, all ten kings eventually get angry at Babylon and attack her further showing all ten are intact and not "plucked up" etc. by the antichrist.

Daniel: antichrist and 10 kings turns into antichrist and 7 kings
Rev: antichrist and ten kings the entire time of the great tribulation.

Anyone want to explain this?

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The lack of mention of something doesn't mean it doesn't exist per se. John in Revelation mentions the False Prophet, but Daniel was never told about that, BUT WHY ? There is a reason, if Daniel had of been given the understanding of the Coming False Prophet {a high priest who goes joins with a Gentle Leader} then every other High Priest would have been killed trying to avoid this Prophecy. John could give it, they didn't believe the Christians and they had fallen as a Nation in 70 AD.

Likewise, there may be a reason God has not to mention the 3 Kings or it may be insignificant in that the three Kings fall or a overcome, but the 10 HORNS/POWERS are still in effect behind the Beast, even though he has to replace three Kings. The Horn os the POWER, if he slays or imprisons THREE KINGS and has thm replaced and then the 10 Powers go forth with the Beast from there, it is not a significant happening in reality, OR.....The THREE KINGS might be taken out before the 10 Horns give their power to the Beast !!

Just like the False Prophet differences between the book of Daniel and the book of Revelation God has His own reasonings. Those 10 Powers will stand behind the Beast, even though, IMHO, three Kings will have to be removed by the Beast, either before they come to power for the 3.5 years or just after they come to power.

My guess is Daniel is speaking about THREE KINGS being Forced out just before the Beast goes on his rampage at the 3.5 year mark, and Revelation is speaking of the 3.5 years that the Kings or Horns rule with the Beast. In other words Daniel speaks of THREE KINGS falling and Revelation skips that fact because it is not relevant to the time frame which John is being shown, the 3.5 years that the 10 Kings and the Beast Rule earth. Daniel was shown what is going to happen just before they Come to power, he was not shown the things John was shown as per that actions, John was given all kinds of DETAIL about the Beasts ACTIONS, Daniel was just given a vague description of his actions in general. God has His own reasons for why He does things as He does them....we are just along for the ride, but, we can figure these things out via prayer and study.