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Seems several people on this board believe they are Israel and boast .
Please quote where any member has boasted about being a member of the commonwealth of Israel.
 
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Please quote where any member has boasted about being a member of the commonwealth of Israel.

I didnt say commonwealth of Israrl .
I said ISRAEL.

If you dont claim to be Israel,then this thread is not addressing you.
 
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If you are Israel,which tribe are you of?
The Lord will assign everyone into one of the twelve tribes, according to our personal characteristics. Revelation 14:1 and Revelation 7:1-14

Careful study of Scripture shows that the Lord is a God of order and in His plan for the redemption of His creation, He chose the Israelite peoples. At this stage of history, only He knows exactly who they are. Amos 9:9
The Lord made unconditional promises to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, that their descendants would be “great nations, as many as the sands of the sea, to be His witnesses and be a light to the nations.” Isaiah 43:10 We see the fulfilment of this prophecy in todays Christian nations.

Only the House of Judah [the Jews] are known at present, the other 10 tribes are lost to general knowledge, as God planned it. All twelve tribes will experience the great awakening as foretold by the prophets. Their blindness will pass away in the spiritual light that will come upon them regarding their identity and their responsibilities as the chosen people of God. Ezekiel 37:14, Romans 9:24-26, 1 Peter 2:9-10
Suppose you are an Israelite? What of it? If I am saved, what difference will it make?
The Scriptures speak of far more than the salvation of the individual. Those who accept the free gift of salvation also have the responsibility of spreading the Gospel [good news] of the coming Kingdom of God. This is being done now and will be done on a greater scale by His people when they go back into the Promised Land. Ezekiel 39:27, Revelation 7:1-14

The Bible presents us with a great volume of information, regarding the origins and history of the various races of mankind, the division of peoples into Israelite [Christian] and Gentile [non Christian] nations. The detailed prophesies of what will happen, then His people’s work for the period leading up to the Return of Jesus and His Millennium Kingdom. Isaiah 49:8

The truth about the Lord’s plan for all who qualify to be Israelites is a thread which runs through the whole Bible, every type, promise, Covenant, and act of God, points to the final fulfilment of His planned establishment of a people, all faithful Christian believers who will live in His Land, as He originally intended. Isaiah 62:1-5, Amos 9:13-15 His witnesses, Isaiah 43:10 and the Light to the nations, Isaiah 49:8 They will be separated into twelve divisions, each named after the 12 sons of Jacob.

Isaiah 51:1-2 Listen to Me, all you who follow after the right, all who seek the Lord: consider the Rock from which you were hewn, the quarry from which you came. Consider Abraham, your father and Sarah who gave you birth, when I called him, he was but one. I blessed him and made him many.

Romans 4:23-24 The words “counted to Abraham as righteousness” apply not only to Abraham, but also to us: our faith, too, is to be counted: our faith in Jesus, raised to life for our justification.


When we go through Scripture and see the many prophecies about the judgement of the nations and the blessings promised to God’s holy people, who are now every faithful Christian believer: from every race nation and language, we see that most are for the “last days”, that is: the short period leading up to the end of this age and before the commencement of the Millennial Kingdom of Jesus. That is for us, upon whom, as Paul says: the end of the age has come.

It is evident that God wants us to be aware of coming events, He sent prophet after prophet, telling in great detail how His plans will unfold. The signs of our times, confirm that their fulfilment is imminent.

The Lord, in His mercy, has given us warning of imminent world changing and shocking happenings. We should be aware of His plans – be ready to rejoice and praise Him for the redemption and restoration of all His people into their heritage of the holy Land. Zechariah 8:7
 
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I don't believe we are Israel, rather, we are the true Israel (the anti-type of the type). Another way to put it: we are the eschatological Israel of Old Testament prophecy.
 
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I don't believe we are Israel, rather, we are the true Israel (the anti-type of the type). Another way to put it: we are the eschatological Israel of Old Testament prophecy.

So which tribe of Israel are you out of.?
 
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The Lord will assign everyone into one of the twelve tribes, according to our personal characteristics. Revelation 14:1 and Revelation 7:1-14

Careful study of Scripture shows that the Lord is a God of order and in His plan for the redemption of His creation, He chose the Israelite peoples. At this stage of history, only He knows exactly who they are. Amos 9:9
The Lord made unconditional promises to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, that their descendants would be “great nations, as many as the sands of the sea, to be His witnesses and be a light to the nations.” Isaiah 43:10 We see the fulfilment of this prophecy in todays Christian nations.

Only the House of Judah [the Jews] are known at present, the other 10 tribes are lost to general knowledge, as God planned it. All twelve tribes will experience the great awakening as foretold by the prophets. Their blindness will pass away in the spiritual light that will come upon them regarding their identity and their responsibilities as the chosen people of God. Ezekiel 37:14, Romans 9:24-26, 1 Peter 2:9-10
Suppose you are an Israelite? What of it? If I am saved, what difference will it make?
The Scriptures speak of far more than the salvation of the individual. Those who accept the free gift of salvation also have the responsibility of spreading the Gospel [good news] of the coming Kingdom of God. This is being done now and will be done on a greater scale by His people when they go back into the Promised Land. Ezekiel 39:27, Revelation 7:1-14

The Bible presents us with a great volume of information, regarding the origins and history of the various races of mankind, the division of peoples into Israelite [Christian] and Gentile [non Christian] nations. The detailed prophesies of what will happen, then His people’s work for the period leading up to the Return of Jesus and His Millennium Kingdom. Isaiah 49:8

The truth about the Lord’s plan for all who qualify to be Israelites is a thread which runs through the whole Bible, every type, promise, Covenant, and act of God, points to the final fulfilment of His planned establishment of a people, all faithful Christian believers who will live in His Land, as He originally intended. Isaiah 62:1-5, Amos 9:13-15 His witnesses, Isaiah 43:10 and the Light to the nations, Isaiah 49:8 They will be separated into twelve divisions, each named after the 12 sons of Jacob.

Isaiah 51:1-2 Listen to Me, all you who follow after the right, all who seek the Lord: consider the Rock from which you were hewn, the quarry from which you came. Consider Abraham, your father and Sarah who gave you birth, when I called him, he was but one. I blessed him and made him many.

Romans 4:23-24 The words “counted to Abraham as righteousness” apply not only to Abraham, but also to us: our faith, too, is to be counted: our faith in Jesus, raised to life for our justification.


When we go through Scripture and see the many prophecies about the judgement of the nations and the blessings promised to God’s holy people, who are now every faithful Christian believer: from every race nation and language, we see that most are for the “last days”, that is: the short period leading up to the end of this age and before the commencement of the Millennial Kingdom of Jesus. That is for us, upon whom, as Paul says: the end of the age has come.

It is evident that God wants us to be aware of coming events, He sent prophet after prophet, telling in great detail how His plans will unfold. The signs of our times, confirm that their fulfilment is imminent.

The Lord, in His mercy, has given us warning of imminent world changing and shocking happenings. We should be aware of His plans – be ready to rejoice and praise Him for the redemption and restoration of all His people into their heritage of the holy Land. Zechariah 8:7

So you have no idea if you are one of the 12 tribes or not?

Are you one of the 144,000?
 
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Revelation shows 12 tribes of Israel.12000 from,each tribe has been sealed.
So you are not of Israel then?
Is it possible your not Israel?

I'm not Israel, I'm part of the "one new man" Christ made in himself (Eph. 2:15). God has abolished the wall of hostility between Israel and the nations, so that he would have one people to himself from every nation as his people, the true Israel.
 
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I'm not Israel, I'm part of the "one new man" Christ made in himself (Eph. 2:15). God has abolished the wall of hostility between Israel and the nations, so that he would have one people to himself from every nation as his people, the true Israel.

These are not called Israel for a reason.There is a difference between those called Israel,and those who are not.

Revelation 7:9 After this I looked and saw a multitude too large to count, from every nation and tribe and people and tongue, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands.
 
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"Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that they broke, though I was their husband, declares the Lord. - Jeremiah 31:31-32

This is referring to the Church. God would establish a New Covenant with the people of Abraham, different than the one he made with their fathers. The Old Covenant had an expiration and fulfillment at the arrival of this New Covenant. In Romans 11, the apostle Paul says that those among the people of Israel that did not believe in Christ were removed, while those who believed remained. The early church is the remnant of Israel at its transitioning. Since this covenant isn't an ethnic covenant like the former ones, Gentiles have the same access in it and to it as Jews. This is why Paul also says that in Christ there is no longer a distinction between Jew and Gentiles, we become what Israel was destined to become - a spiritual people.
 
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"Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that they broke, though I was their husband, declares the Lord. - Jeremiah 31:31-32

This is referring to the Church. God would establish a New Covenant with the people of Abraham, different than the one he made with their fathers. The Old Covenant had an expiration and fulfillment at the arrival of this New Covenant. In Romans 11, the apostle Paul says that those among the people of Israel that did not believe in Christ were removed, while those who believed remained. The early church is the remnant of Israel at its transitioning. Since this covenant isn't an ethnic covenant like the former ones, Gentiles have the same access in it and to it as Jews. This is why Paul also says that in Christ there is no longer a distinction between Jew and Gentiles, we become what Israel was destined to become - a spiritual people.

So you claim God made a covenant with your fathers?
Who were your fathers?
 
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