"j"esus culture and hillsong apostates
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Hello? It's not a question of theology. It's about who it's been written for. They preach a different Jesus and worship a different God. See the difference?
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The line that has been hotly debated in these forums is:
You didn't want heaven without us
The accused implication is that Jesus was unhappy with heaven, His creation.
I'm not sure that intention of the sentence is that Jesus was unhappy with heaven, but that the intention of the sentence is fixed for American ears by adding two words:
You didn't want heaven to be without us
However, it can also be argued that it was not the will of God for heaven to be without the presence of man--because Jesus came to earth, suffered, died, was resurrected for the explicit purpose of giving man a presence in heaven. Jesus did that which was God's will to make heaven available to man, therefore heaven without man was not what God wanted.
At any rate, the dispute is a matter of squinting hard at a couple of words to find something wrong.
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It's deception at its best.
It doesn't matter how "pretty" the music or singing is.
The bottom line is, if one's thoughts, heart, mind, and spirit are not focused on the true and living God, there is something else that has "displaced" God.
And those caught up in enamoring that music or singing is unaware of it, and is essentially, worshiping whatever "displaced" the living God.
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The Southern Baptist Convention was created for the sole and specific reason to allow Baptists in the south to hold slaves, which they attempted by the incredibly heretical "Curse of Ham" twisting of scripture.
That was a "different Jesus" and a "different God," through which they perpetrated incredible and deliberate evil upon other people of God's creation.
By your reckoning, that should be reason enough to refuse to listen to their music.
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I agree. It's not Biblical.
Thank you for sharing that.
I wasn't aware of it.
What you posted above in explanation, is the very antithesis of anything of the living God and His Word.
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Hello? It's not a question of theology. It's about who it's been written for. They preach a different Jesus and worship a different God. See the difference?
If I walked out of a church every time my ideas about God and Jesus don't match up to the people in the church I think I'd be a spiritual orphan. Even though my pastor and I are still recognizably Lutheran, we don't agree on everything. He's a somewhat conservative Lutheran from the LCMS originally, and I'm somewhat more liberal than that. We have all kinds of people in our church and we aren't all on the same page about everything. Some of us are conservative MAGA types and others of us are quite liberal. Some of us aren't even heterosexuals. But we all get together to listen to the Word and receive the Lord's Supper, and that's what unites us.
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I discovered a whole bunch of Christian
If this was your implied reason to post this then I apologize. I thought it was their taste in music you were judging them by. I will look into this when I have time. Thanks.
If this was your implied reason to post this then I apologize. I thought it was their taste in music you were judging them by. I will look into this when I have time. Thanks.
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I do sleep much better at night now....my insomnia has eased.
Thank you for your concern.
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I think you will fit right in with the "Theoloy" of Bethel church, jesus culture, and Hillsong.
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Alright. It came up saying the page could not be found. Thanks for sharing though.
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I’d be careful not to condone, excuse or even promote blatantly false and unBiblical teachings. One should do their research to find out what is truly said before dismissing such things as fine and of no concern. Many have been led astray because there is no clear warning given.
What you wrote above is not what Johnson teaches. He has taught that Jesus was not God here on earth. We’d better be sure we have the right Jesus, because Scripture does warn that there is “another Jesus”.
Until someone is willing to actually “test” things with Scripture and what it says, they should not be claiming there are not major issues.
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No idea why you're so combative lately. But I dont think listening to a hymn and singing along to it in praise is the same thing as studying church doctrine, no.
I have no idea who "Bethal" is, but I don't see why you think that anyone listening to the song I posted (and others like it) must be compelled to ascribe to the teachings of Bethal.
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My point is that most people learn about the faith through reading the bible, study groups, teachings, preachings, and books. Learning about the faith through songs and hymns pales in comparison to these other methods.
Would you kindly look at Halbah's post in #195 and tell us what is theologically unsound with the lyrics of the song I posted?
My point is that most people learn about the faith through reading the bible, study groups, teachings, preachings, and books. Learning about the faith through songs and hymns pales in comparison to these other methods.
Would you kindly look at Halbah's post in #195 and tell us what is theologically unsound with the lyrics of the song I posted?
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The bottom line is, Who is praise and worship for?
If this is not clear, it could be called "praise and worship" and have nothing to do with the living God.
In that case, it's an abomination, regardless of how "pretty" and "enamoring" it is.
We are admonished to "examine" ourselves as well as all that we are drawn to. The enemy is just as seductive as he's always been.
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God, Jesus, Holy Spirit.
Okay. Looking at one example specifically, how do the lyrics of the song "What A Beautiful Name" have nothing to do with worshipping Jesus and God? (refer to post #195 for lyrics)
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