Billy Graham

dabro said:

I really think his passing mark a time where the tribulation is about to start.

The Bible says when the Gospels are preached around the world then the end will come.

Last year it Israel marked its 70th Birthday.

Jesus said when the fig tree starts to bud know the end is near.

Anyone else feel this way??

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Jesus and the Church are biblical Israel. The broken off unbelievers are not, but in name only. Any who accept Christ will be re-grafted back into Israel.

Nope

Lost4words said:

Nope

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Ditto.

Ditto too

dabro said:

It is true tho. He came w Great Glory and Honor through the Romans to destroy the Temple.

I really have hard time w Premillennialism.

It may or may not be Dual.

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Jesus was not with the Romans.
Titus was.

dabro said:

I really think his passing mark a time where the tribulation is about to start.

The Bible says when the Gospels are preached around the world then the end will come.

Last year it Israel marked its 70th Birthday.

Jesus said when the fig tree starts to bud know the end is near.

Anyone else feel this way??

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I think we are on the verge of the trib for sure, especially based on passages like Hosea 6:2, but I don't think the passing of Graham has anything to do with it.

dabro said:

We will be apart of the tribulation saints.

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Mat_13:21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.

Mat_24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Mat_24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

Mar_13:24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,

Joh_16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

Act_14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

Rom_5:3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;

Rom_8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

Rom_12:12 Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer;

2Co_1:4 Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God.

2Co_7:4 Great is my boldness of speech toward you, great is my glorying of you: I am filled with comfort, I am exceeding joyful in all our tribulation.

Rev_1:9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Rev_2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Rev_2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

Rev_7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
(You cannot come out of a room, unless you have been in the room.)


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dabro said:

I have a real problem tho with this rapture theory.

I think Revelations 3:10 is talking about cloaking or protecting.

We will be apart of the tribulation saints. Praise God if they behead us. We will be w our Savior forever.

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Understood. Most people either aren't aware of Isaiah 26:19-21 or actually give it serious thought or contemplation to understand what is written there. It shows a time after which the earth will never again cover its slain, so we know it's future from us still, in fulfillment. But when it is fulfilled, it is after the resurrection of the dead and the gathering of the people of the Lord, where we are told to go enter our chambers (John 14:2-3) prior to the Lord coming out and punishing the whole earth. Whatever view we hold, if it doesn't conform to these verses as well, it needs to be modified.

dabro said:

I really think his passing mark a time where the tribulation is about to start.

The Bible says when the Gospels are preached around the world then the end will come.

Last year it Israel marked its 70th Birthday.

Jesus said when the fig tree starts to bud know the end is near.

Anyone else feel this way??

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Billy Graham was the most overrated Protestant minister of the 20th century. Outside of that I see no significance to his passing.

dabro said:

Say if the rapture doesn’t happen.

Many will look and see the devastation around and fall away.


I’ve alrea been thru a tribulation so I have an edge that most Christians do not have.

In 05 I thought I was already in the end times. I was in jail thinking if ppl didn’t receive the Mark they where chopped up.

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None will fall away except those who had faith in something other than Christ Himself. That's just a strawman. People alter theological positions on nonessentials all the time. They don't lose their faith in the process.

Israel's 70th anniversary can still herald the end times, even if the true Israel is the body of believers who follow God alone. That Israel in Palestine is the anti-Israel, sitting in the Lord's place. And in so doing, deceiving many believers. Exactly as Jesus prophesied in Matthew 24:24. Fulfillment of prophecy? Yes. Though not the one you might think.